Congratulations to Elon. They played hard and played better than JMU today. They earned the win. JMU made too many mistakes and you can’t do that against a good team and expect to win.

I counted 5 dropped passes, two TDs calledback by penalties, and the killer was the lost fumble by Dylan Stapleton when JMU appeared to be driving to score and finish the game ona high note. It was the following possession off that fumble that allowed Elon to score the go ahead TD. Our D was anything but tough today giving up nearly 500 yards, and well over 200 of that on the ground.

Hope MH and the staff can have the team’s undivided attention next week and for the rest of the season. There are no easy wins left on the schedule, and 3 of the remaining 5 regular season games are on the road. Even UNH could be extra tough now that their super-duper QB is back in action.

Go Dukes!

(10-06-2018 04:59 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Congratulations to Elon. They played hard and played better than JMU today. They earned the win. JMU made too many mistakes and you can’t do that against a good team and expect to win.

I counted 5 dropped passes, two TDs calledback by penalties, and the killer was the lost fumble by Dylan Stapleton when JMU appeared to be driving to score and finish the game ona high note. It was the following possession off that fumble that allowed Elon to score the go ahead TD. Our D was anything but tough today giving up nearly 500 yards, and well over 200 of that on the ground.

Hope MH and the staff can have the team’s undivided attention next week and for the rest of the season. There are no easy wins left on the schedule, and 3 of the remaining 5 regular season games are on the road. Even UNH could be extra tough now that their super-duper QB is back in action.

Go Dukes!

True and I'd actually go as far as to say the defense got embarrassed. While DiNucci was often scrambling for his life, the jMU defense couldn't apply pressure on the quarterback and Summers ran for 186 yards and 9.3 yards per carry.

This is a question for anyone that taped the game. Were the two penalties on the 2 JMU TDs that got called back legit? I think one was a block in the back or hold, and the other was defensive hands to the face.

Also, did the call-back on DiNucci’s Houdini-like escape and long run for a first down look like a good call? The one replay they showed on the big screen in BFS didn’t appear to show DiNucci going down.

(10-06-2018 05:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is a question for anyone that taped the game. We’re the two penalties on the 2 JMU TDs that got called back legit? I think one was a block in the back or hold, and the other was defensive hands to the face.

Also, did the call-back on DiNucci’s Houdini-like escape and long run for a first down look like a good call? The one replay they showed on the big screen in BFS didn’t appear to show DiNucci going down.

Hands to the face was legit. Neither the announcers nor I could find a hold on the punt that was called back. TV angle had a perfect view of the DiNucci “sack” and his knee clearly wasn’t down. The announcers were stunned by the call.

(10-06-2018 05:12 PM)Lyric Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 05:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is a question for anyone that taped the game. We’re the two penalties on the 2 JMU TDs that got called back legit? I think one was a block in the back or hold, and the other was defensive hands to the face.

Also, did the call-back on DiNucci’s Houdini-like escape and long run for a first down look like a good call? The one replay they showed on the big screen in BFS didn’t appear to show DiNucci going down.

Hands to the face was legit. Neither the announcers nor I could find a hold on the punt that was called back. TV angle had a perfect view of the DiNucci “sack” and his knee clearly wasn’t down. The announcers were stunned by the call.

Thanks. The crowd where I was sitting was also stunned on the DiNucci call. It still baffles me how that got called-back.

Truthfully I was paying attention on the punt-return, and I didn’t see anything that looked suspicious. Another phantom call I guess.

That said, we got flat out beat today. We deserved to lose. Major chinks in our armor were exposed.

(10-06-2018 05:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is a question for anyone that taped the game. Were the two penalties on the 2 JMU TDs that got called back legit? I think one was a block in the back or hold, and the other was defensive hands to the face.

Also, did the call-back on DiNucci’s Houdini-like escape and long run for a first down look like a good call? The one replay they showed on the big screen in BFS didn’t appear to show DiNucci going down.

While I hate to make excuses, bc the level of play exhibited today was not deserving of a win, I do believe the refs made some iffy calls.

I taped the game and rewatched those plays. First, you could not see DiNuccis knee touch. At least i couldnt. Without definitive evidence to overturn, the play should have stood as called on the field. His leg started to go down, it never touched, then a defender blocked the view of the camera and he rolled out. It seemed like the refs, unless they had different views, assumed it touched. Which is improper.

Second, the hands to the face penalty was weak, but a close call. The hand came up from the chest to the neck area and it clearly made contact with the facemask, but the Elon players had their helmets so loose that the helmet immediatley came off making it look more severe than it really was. But at full speed it may have been difficult for the ref to tell.

The holding on the return I honeslty did not see from the replay they showed. Maybe someone else saw it. But regardless, we should have scored TDs instead of field goals, we should have not blown coverages on D, and we shouldnt have had the turnovers. The refs didnt help us today, but we simply cant win CAA games playing like that.

(10-06-2018 04:02 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Lost to Elon. Just think about that.
Very poor performance.
I give Elon credit for not turning the ball over and allowing JMU to implode with a combination of easy dropped passes, 2 obvious wrong ref calls, and a poor job by Houston game coaching.

That is the recipe for a massive upset at home.

Lol. Lost to ELON

we absolutely got out coached!

Interesting, Houston blamed players 100% for the loss during post game press conference...."maybe they will listen to us now",,,he said that a number of times different ways. Hmmmm, always interesting what comes out when things get tough.

Hat's off to Elon - they had a better game plan and out-executed us. Which makes them the better team today.

Their halftime adjustment were better than ours. They have a very good backfield tandem, their QB was able to make enough plays downfield, and they held their own or won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

For us, my major disappointment is that we could not open up the passing game. On too many 1st downs we ran into a stacked box creating long situations. I don't recall a jet sweep, although it was faked several times. The QB option appeared very effective, but we did not stay with it too much. We coached and executed this into a 1 score game, which with their talent and strong running game it was clearly to their advantage.

Humbled Dukes, should respond strongly. Watching tape, is going to be a chore this week for the team.

(10-06-2018 05:41 PM)class2000 Wrote:  Interesting, Houston blamed players 100% for the loss during post game press conference...."maybe they will listen to us now",,,he said that a number of times different ways. Hmmmm, always interesting what comes out when things get tough.

I think it’s both not one side or the other. Our game plan, play calling and execution were not great at any phase. All parties are accountable to that.

Disappointing however thru adversity comes change and thru change comes growth

(10-06-2018 04:43 PM)TheDuke Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 04:20 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 04:02 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 03:59 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  That is not acceptable considering the advantages JMU has over Elon/caa/fcs. Embarrassing in front of 26,000+.

Good on Elon, they deserve the win.

Yep. This is an embarrassing loss

My wife (a UVA grad ) just put this into perspective for me, maybe it will help you too. "JMU plays DII football, your little internet friends won't move up so what difference does it make?...and stay off the CAAzone."

UVA basically plays DII ball so whats the difference?

Forget Uva.

JMU is trying to convince us that fcs football is something it is not and that being a fcs dynasty that has an fbs stadium and a fbs athletic budget makes sense. It does not.

Elon should feel great. Elon is a perfect fcs program, small private school with decent facilities and appropriately funded for a CAA program. It would be easy to be an Elon fan as an Elon grad, it makes sense. Alger's anti COA manifesto, was one of the eight signors the president of Elon?

JMU top to bottom looks more like a P5 program than an average fcs program. If I saw JMU actively using that to JMU's benefit, I am in. I'm not convinced JMU would join the AAC after Bourne's recent quote about "probably call back" if the AAC called.

We just lost to Elon in front of 26,000 people. If we are going strut around the playground beating up the weak and poor forever to the delight of the administration and fcs sympathizers, can we at least defeat teams with half the resources or a quarter of the resources which is all of them including NDSU?

We just lost to ####### Elon.

(10-06-2018 05:41 PM)class2000 Wrote:  Interesting, Houston blamed players 100% for the loss during post game press conference...."maybe they will listen to us now",,,he said that a number of times different ways. Hmmmm, always interesting what comes out when things get tough.

Bullsh!t. Houston should have had them ready. That's what he gets paid for.

US Army doctrine: "A commander is responsible for everything his unit does and does not do." I see no difference here.

1. We were supremely outcoached.

2. We were absolutely out hustled and out worked.

3. We are now 4-3 in our last seven games. We won every game we should have won and have lost every game that was close, where we needed to have focus and execute.

4. These dudes thought they’d roll out in their new uni’s and got muscled up and got punched in the mouth.

5. There is a lot of season left and this could be the come to Jesus moment we needed (I hope).

6. Richmond sucks.

We are 0-3 against North ..... over the past 7 games. Let's avoid these directional states.

Timeouts and click...AGAIN??? Cmon man....that's low hanging fruit that they should have fixed by now

Elon won...hope they have a great season

Elon is very good. Do not discount what they did today. I think that is a top 8 team with Summers.

JMU has 2 touchdowns wiped off the board, and numerous other game changing calls. Our red zone O continues to hurt us, just like NDSU and NCSU. There is enough evidence now to knows that the red zone is a weakness.

Elon deserved to win today. They Beat us. I expect JMU to roll them should we meet again in the playoffs.

(10-06-2018 04:20 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 04:02 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 03:59 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  That is not acceptable considering the advantages JMU has over Elon/caa/fcs. Embarrassing in front of 26,000+.

Good on Elon, they deserve the win.

Yep. This is an embarrassing loss

My wife (a UVA grad ) just put this into perspective for me, maybe it will help you too. "JMU plays DII football, your little internet friends won't move up so what difference does it make?...and stay off the CAAzone."

Divorce. Easy.

(10-06-2018 05:56 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 05:41 PM)class2000 Wrote:  Interesting, Houston blamed players 100% for the loss during post game press conference...."maybe they will listen to us now",,,he said that a number of times different ways. Hmmmm, always interesting what comes out when things get tough.

bull****! Houston should have had them ready. That's what he gets paid for.

US Army doctrine: "A commander is responsible for everything his unit does and does not do." I see no difference here.

Shocked about this...my guess (and hope) is MH will own up to a lot of the loss at the Tuesday presser

(10-06-2018 06:42 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 05:56 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 05:41 PM)class2000 Wrote:  Interesting, Houston blamed players 100% for the loss during post game press conference...."maybe they will listen to us now",,,he said that a number of times different ways. Hmmmm, always interesting what comes out when things get tough.

bull****! Houston should have had them ready. That's what he gets paid for.

US Army doctrine: "A commander is responsible for everything his unit does and does not do." I see no difference here.

Shocked about this...my guess (and hope) is MH will own up to a lot of the loss at the Tuesday presser

Watch the PC. The above replay is BS.