(08-23-2018 12:44 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:32 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:28 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  My point came from someone I actually know, who posted an opinion that I agree with regarding this situation but again, nice try.

Do you disagree that if this guy had respect for women, he wouldn't have killed her?

Once again, a cultural issue. Mexican men don't have the respect for women like we have here in the states. Impregnating a 14 year old girl is no big deal in a 3rd world hellhole like that.

Just like driving drunk, it is considered to be a part of great machismo.

Way to paint with that broad brush. Care to make any more huge sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people?

Well, I used to really like all Memphis Tiger fans and considered them the most knowledgeable fans in the American but you just proved that generalization wrong.

Awww, puddin'.

That's ok. I still predict they'll go 10-2, win the American and play in a NYD bowl.

(08-23-2018 12:47 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:44 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:32 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:28 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Once again, a cultural issue. Mexican men don't have the respect for women like we have here in the states. Impregnating a 14 year old girl is no big deal in a 3rd world hellhole like that.

Just like driving drunk, it is considered to be a part of great machismo.

Way to paint with that broad brush. Care to make any more huge sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people?

Well, I used to really like all Memphis Tiger fans and considered them the most knowledgeable fans in the American but you just proved that generalization wrong.

Awww, puddin'.

That's ok. I still predict they'll go 10-2, win the American and play in a NYD bowl.

Ahhh, common ground.

(08-23-2018 12:46 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:28 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  My point came from someone I actually know, who posted an opinion that I agree with regarding this situation but again, nice try.

Do you disagree that if this guy had respect for women, he wouldn't have killed her?

Once again, a cultural issue. Mexican men don't have the respect for women like we have here in the states. Impregnating a 14 year old girl is no big deal in a 3rd world hellhole like that.

Just like driving drunk, it is considered to be a part of great machismo.

Way to paint with that broad brush. Care to make any more huge sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people?

i guess if the drunk uninsured illegal alien Guatemalan that totaled my truck parked in the street had respected trucks then it would not have been destroyed.

which part of that statement is a ridiculous generalization.

democrats love illegal alien sociopaths as long as they respect women. what lunacy.

The only lunacy here is the fact that you guys think that this woman is dead because of illegal immigration. Had any other illegal immigrant in that community come across her on that road, she would likely be here today.

like these guys?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...abama.html

i guess this is just more toxic masculinity.

democrats should run on this platform. republicans will be in control for the next 500 years

(08-23-2018 12:48 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:46 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:28 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Once again, a cultural issue. Mexican men don't have the respect for women like we have here in the states. Impregnating a 14 year old girl is no big deal in a 3rd world hellhole like that.

Just like driving drunk, it is considered to be a part of great machismo.

Way to paint with that broad brush. Care to make any more huge sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people?

i guess if the drunk uninsured illegal alien Guatemalan that totaled my truck parked in the street had respected trucks then it would not have been destroyed.

which part of that statement is a ridiculous generalization.

democrats love illegal alien sociopaths as long as they respect women. what lunacy.

The only lunacy here is the fact that you guys think that this woman is dead because of illegal immigration. Had any other illegal immigrant in that community come across her on that road, she would likely be here today.

like these guys?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...abama.html

More like these guys:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/cowboy-hat-wea...d=23120265

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...e-1.951239

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-death-o...gutierrez/

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

(08-23-2018 01:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

We need more gun respect

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

The laws added by Missouri & (I think) Connecticut were nowhere near "severe." That's solely your opinion. Several cons on this board even had no issue with it.

As for the rest of your nonsense post, you're making a fool of yourself. I hope the murderer gets what's coming to him, but it's disgusting to me that you want to make the issue about immigration & not about what actually happened - a guy killing an innocent woman. Go back to watching Alex Jones.

(08-23-2018 01:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:14 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I find it funny that it's "Change the system! Build the wall!" when an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Someone shoots up a place with a gun, though, and it's "Hold up - the laws we have are fine - no need to change anything."

Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

If you get rid of the immigrants you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis, either.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words, why are people so evil that they want to rape & murder innocent women?

(08-23-2018 01:22 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

If you get rid of the immigrants you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis, either.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words, why are people so evil that they want to rape & murder innocent women?

If you get rid of all illegal aliens youve gotten rid of illegal alien sociopaths

(08-23-2018 12:47 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:47 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:44 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:32 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Way to paint with that broad brush. Care to make any more huge sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people?

Well, I used to really like all Memphis Tiger fans and considered them the most knowledgeable fans in the American but you just proved that generalization wrong.

Awww, puddin'.

That's ok. I still predict they'll go 10-2, win the American and play in a NYD bowl.

Ahhh, common ground.

See, I ain't such a bad guy. Oh, and here is more for you to like:

Memphis and Cincy to the BIG12

UCF/ECU to the ACC.

Kaplony has to invite me to his first tailgate at Spectrum Stadium when Clemson comes to town, lol....

(08-23-2018 01:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 12:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Because unlike your irrational ideas on guns better border security is something that can be accomplished. San Diego and El Paso have proven that.

I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

We need more gun respect

Well, yea, I agree but I still don't see how getting rid of a gun cures someone of their desire to commit violence. It doesn't. But yes, a well armed society is a polite society.

Remember that Star Trek episode, "A piece of the action" ?

(08-23-2018 01:31 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

If you get rid of guns you still haven't gotten rid of the psychosis.

Deal with the cause instead. In other words - why are people so evil that they want to murder multiple people ?

We need more gun respect

Well, yea, I agree but I still don't see how getting rid of a gun cures someone of their desire to commit violence. It doesn't. But yes, a well armed society is a polite society.

Remember that Star Trek episode, "A piece of the action" ?

I was being a smartarse. We need more smartarse respect

(08-23-2018 01:20 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 01:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I won't derail to gun legislation, but I've shown over & over a few things that have been proven to reduce gun crime when implemented by states, and conversely have caused gun crime to go up when those laws are taken away. You just choose to ignore facts.

And I'll just point to Canada and France who have every law you want us to adopt concerning guns and the mass shootings that happen there.


The difference between the two is you want to put severe restrictions on law abiding citizens of this country for crimes someone else committed and we want to prevent criminals, and every single illegal alien is a criminal, from coming into the country to prevent future crimes. The first is irrational, the second isn't.

In the gun threads you've demonized the NRA and it's members for crimes committed by non-members doing things the NRA itself decries. Now you are upset because your precious political ideology is rightfully getting attacked because one of these criminals that they are constantly fighting for, even to the point of refusing to pay our men and women in the armed forces, committed this heinous crime. Time to take your medicine.

The laws added by Missouri & (I think) Connecticut were nowhere near "severe." That's solely your opinion. Several cons on this board even had no issue with it.

As for the rest of your nonsense post, you're making a fool of yourself. I hope the murderer gets what's coming to him, but it's disgusting to me that you want to make the issue about immigration & not about what actually happened - a guy killing an innocent woman. Go back to watching Alex Jones.

I suggest you rid yourself of a little ignorance and utilize the search function to search the term "Alex Jones" against my name. Let the board know what you see and keep that in mind the next time you try to hurl an insult so that you don't look like any more of an absolute moron than you usually do. Sadly I know that you will not do that because if you have proven nothing else in your postings on this board it's that you thoroughly enjoy wallowing in your ignorance.

(08-22-2018 11:46 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Warren chimes in. Can't make up how awful she is.

That right there should be video ad #1 for all republicans or democrats who want stronger border laws or the wall.

Everyone should make their opponent disclaim Warren in this video....

a American was killed by someone who came into this country illegally and all she can talk about is more illegals and their rights.

God these people are idiots and I know they wasn't this dumb years ago. But it's why I #walkedaway

(08-22-2018 01:27 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Here is a nugget: I work in construction. Design professional in an MEP trade. Amount of Mexicans on sites has gone DOWN in the past year. Bigly. Starting to see a lot more women on sites instead. Doing roofing, hanging sheetrock, installing rat runners in attics, even operating mini-exes.

And keep in mind this is the Orlando area. TONS of construction going on right now. Roads all over town are cut up. Unprecedented amount of infrastructure improvement.

Used to see only Mexicans doing this work and now I have seen lots of women.

Which is a beautiful thing. A woman that can use her hands and mind in conjunction in a mechanically inclined fashion is a keeper, IMO.

The only reason the number of Mexicans workers went up in the first place...

they work cheaper.

That cost is not passed down it goes in the pocket of a few but not a savings to the State or Federal government paying.

I have nothing against the work the Mexicans do. Most of the time they work hard and do a good job. But that was no different than the Americans that once held those jobs. They just wouldn't work for table scraps as they shouldn't.

What some people dont understand this isn't just someone hiring a group of people that will work cheaper. In the long run it lowers wages across the board for blue collar workers. I dont know for a fact but in my opinion that is the biggest reason blue collar wages have not kept up with COL. wHY more and more are falling under the poverty line.

Its ashame people think Americans are lazy and dont want those jobs. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Its the hiring of those that are willing to work for a lot less because they use to make half that. If not less than half.

(08-23-2018 12:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 09:59 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  CNN Commentator Mollie Tibbetts’ Murderer Killed Her Because Of ‘Toxic Masculinity’



Well it looks like we see where Tigergreen is getting his info.

Quote:CNN commentator Symone Sanders on Wednesday blamed the murder of Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts on “toxic masculinity.”

“Mollie Tibbetts was murdered b/c she told a man to leave her alone while she was jogging,” Sanders tweeted. “Her murderer happens to be undocumented. This isn’t about border security. This is about toxic masculinity. Mollie Tibbetts lost her life b/c a man couldn’t take her saying no. Full stop.”

Tibbetts, 20, had been missing for over a month when her body was discovered under corn stalks in a rural Iowa farm field. Christian Bahena Rivera, 24, has been charged with murder in the case. Officials say the illegal immigrant acknowledged that Tibbetts felt threatened by him when he interacted with her while jogging. Rivera then said that he “blacked out” at some point, but not before allegedly murdering Tibbetts.

Keep reading here

My point came from someone I actually know, who posted an opinion that I agree with regarding this situation but again, nice try.

Do you disagree that if this guy had respect for women, he wouldn't have killed her?

Stop being so ******* stupid you dont have a clue why he killed her so saying he did it because he disrespect women is ******* stupid. He did it because he wanted to **** her and he took it.

The one thing we do know. If he was not here he would not have killed an American. He might have in Mexico but not in American.

The one thing that stops illegals from crossing into American better than any law on the books....A WALL. That has been proven so most likely his "disrespect for females" wouldn't have matter to Molly.

Those are the f'ing facts

(08-23-2018 12:46 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  The only lunacy here is the fact that you guys think that this woman is dead because of illegal immigration. Had any other illegal immigrant in that community come across her on that road, she would likely be here today.

That is precisely why she is dead. She is dead because at some point her murderer walked across an unsecured border.