(08-06-2018 02:18 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Free market!!! He can create his own service if he wants to. Funny as hell to hear the right cry about a monopoly all of a sudden. Either those are bad and need to be regulated or free markets and let companies do what they want and stay out of it. Funny to see the policies I’ve heard the right scream they want get used against them. Toughen up snowflake this is the truly free market you’ve all been begging for. Deal with it.

markets are imperfect i.e. monopolies ...

MA BELL

Apple/FB/Twitter/Youtube are the modern incarnation of the Seven Sisters Oil Companies that banded together to create their own monopoly.

So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

(08-06-2018 02:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

I think what you are hearing, and it's what concerns me, is the equal application of private company's policies. If Alex Jones said something that is deserving of a permanent ban, EVERYBODY else that has said that same thing or it's equivalent should receive the same ban.

(08-06-2018 02:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

Wait so you are saying businesses can ban people they don't like? Okay. Sounds good. No soup for you. Lol

Logic is hard.

(08-06-2018 02:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

do you have a problem denying service based on immutable characteristics like skin color or gender identity ...

WOMAN DON'T CRY

(08-06-2018 01:50 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 01:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Alex Jones is a twat. There's a supreme difference between having the freedom of speech and spreading misinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, coordinating targeted harassment towards victims of mass tragedies, and doing it all to profit off of website traffic and ad space. Cry about it all you want, but this is what Alex Jones is guilty of, and this is why he is being removed from these platforms. Anyone who follows and accepts Jones' vitriol as fact is a hair-brained dingus who is probably also a flat-earther.

Link?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...72301.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...524148002/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...tim-father

(08-06-2018 02:25 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Apple/FB/Twitter/Youtube are the modern incarnation of the Seven Sisters Oil Companies that banded together to create their own monopoly.

What they are doing to that d-bag is wrong and while not a suppression of free speech it is a suppression of freedom of expression of one of their users which is crap. If he isn't calling for physical violence against anyone then they are just words and no one is being forced to watch his videos.

That being said, the bottom line of your signature picture is a bigger pile of bullspit than all of the turds scraped up in San Francisco. AJ is not on the side of intelligent sane people, and he does not fight for the truth. He fights for sponsorship dollars of his hack snakeoil supplement company by spouting off baseless conspiracy theory by baseless conspiracy theory to his idiot audience that if the tin foil wasn't wrapped tight enough around their heads their banana pudding for brains would leak out.

There is a special place in hell for that man or anyone who can go on broadcast and say what he did about those babies killed in Sandy Hook.

Also what’s the barrier to entry to create a new social media platform? How much capital investment does that actually take up front to get it going vs how much it would cost to create a new high speed ISP in isolated areas that are only served by one currently? The answer to that is minuscule. Of course the problem is everyone uses the existing services and no one would give a crap about this new start up right away, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from doing it.

https://www.infowars.com

https://youtu.be/t8RCQDDsMpU

(08-06-2018 02:49 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

Wait so you are saying businesses can ban people they don't like? Okay. Sounds good. No soup for you. Lol

Logic is hard.

Sure seems to be, if you can’t logically see this is the same basic principle of that cake douche telling the gay couple to take a hike. So are you saying that was wrong and he should be forced to do something he fundamentally finds repulsive?

(08-06-2018 02:53 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:25 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Apple/FB/Twitter/Youtube are the modern incarnation of the Seven Sisters Oil Companies that banded together to create their own monopoly.

What they are doing to that d-bag is wrong and while not a suppression of free speech it is a suppression of freedom of expression of one of their users which is crap. If he isn't calling for physical violence against anyone then they are just words and no one is being forced to watch his videos.

That being said, the bottom line of your signature picture is a bigger pile of bullspit than all of the turds scraped up in San Francisco. AJ is not on the side of intelligent sane people, and he does not fight for the truth. He fights for sponsorship dollars of his hack snakeoil supplement company by spouting off baseless conspiracy theory by baseless conspiracy theory to his idiot audience that if the tin foil wasn't wrapped tight enough around their heads their banana pudding for brains would leak out.

There is a special place in hell for that man or anyone who can go on broadcast and say what he did about those babies killed in Sandy Hook.

You'll get over it.

(08-06-2018 02:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Also what’s the barrier to entry to create a new social media platform? How much capital investment does that actually take up front to get it going vs how much it would cost to create a new high speed ISP in isolated areas that are only served by one currently? The answer to that is minuscule. Of course the problem is everyone uses the existing services and no one would give a crap about this new start up right away, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from doing it.

regrettably, the answer is to break them up ...

TOO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES

(08-06-2018 02:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:49 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So all this time I’ve been hearing the answer to all problems is the free market and that if companies start doing things that are bad competition will spring up to force it to be better or drive them out of business. Always that government should stay out of it entirely and this capitalist utopia will make things perfect. Now all of a sudden someone needs to step in and force a private company to do something they don’t want to. Cry me a river.

Wait so you are saying businesses can ban people they don't like? Okay. Sounds good. No soup for you. Lol

Logic is hard.

Sure seems to be, if you can’t logically see this is the same basic principle of that cake douche telling the gay couple to take a hike. So are you saying that was wrong and he should be forced to do something he fundamentally finds repulsive?

I find your response fundamentally repulsive.

Still no soup for you.

(08-06-2018 02:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Sure seems to be, if you can’t logically see this is the same basic principle of that cake douche telling the gay couple to take a hike. So are you saying that was wrong and he should be forced to do something he fundamentally finds repulsive?

does it apply to immutable characteristics ...

NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND

(08-06-2018 02:59 PM)green Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Also what’s the barrier to entry to create a new social media platform? How much capital investment does that actually take up front to get it going vs how much it would cost to create a new high speed ISP in isolated areas that are only served by one currently? The answer to that is minuscule. Of course the problem is everyone uses the existing services and no one would give a crap about this new start up right away, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from doing it.

regrettably, the answer is to break them up ...

TOO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES

They are in violation of the Sherman Act, IMO.

(08-06-2018 01:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Alex Jones is a twat. There's a supreme difference between having the freedom of speech and spreading misinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, coordinating targeted harassment towards victims of mass tragedies, and doing it all to profit off of website traffic and ad space. Cry about it all you want, but this is what Alex Jones is guilty of, and this is why he is being removed from these platforms. Anyone who follows and accepts Jones' vitriol as fact is a hair-brained dingus who is probably also a flat-earther.

Anyone who follows and accepts CNN's vitriol as fact is a hair-brained dingus who is probably also believes man never went to the moon.

(08-06-2018 02:00 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.

False argument. There is no monopoly on cake making businesses. Apple/Youtube/Facebook, etc.. have a monopoly on electronic/social media.

That is the key point. If you have one clerk issuing marriage licenses, you can't give them a conscientious objector exemption. But if you have a bunch of cake bakers then you can.

(08-06-2018 03:03 PM)green Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Sure seems to be, if you can’t logically see this is the same basic principle of that cake douche telling the gay couple to take a hike. So are you saying that was wrong and he should be forced to do something he fundamentally finds repulsive?

does it apply to immutable characteristics ...

NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND

Don't spoil my fun dammit. We were just started down the garden path.

Lol

(08-06-2018 02:59 PM)green Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 02:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Also what’s the barrier to entry to create a new social media platform? How much capital investment does that actually take up front to get it going vs how much it would cost to create a new high speed ISP in isolated areas that are only served by one currently? The answer to that is minuscule. Of course the problem is everyone uses the existing services and no one would give a crap about this new start up right away, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from doing it.

regrettably, the answer is to break them up ...

TOO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES

Ok so more government intervention. Good to know and I’ll expect a consistent position going forward lol.