(08-06-2018 01:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: Alex Jones is a twat. There's a supreme difference between having the freedom of speech and spreading misinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, coordinating targeted harassment towards victims of mass tragedies, and doing it all to profit off of website traffic and ad space. Cry about it all you want, but this is what Alex Jones is guilty of, and this is why he is being removed from these platforms. Anyone who follows and accepts Jones' vitriol as fact is a hair-brained dingus who is probably also a flat-earther.
(08-06-2018 01:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The left has been openly calling for these companies to cease being platforms for Alex Jones' misinformation for a while. They're not doing in secret.
(08-06-2018 01:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: Alex Jones is a twat. There's a supreme difference between having the freedom of speech and spreading misinformation, peddling conspiracy theories, coordinating targeted harassment towards victims of mass tragedies, and doing it all to profit off of website traffic and ad space. Cry about it all you want, but this is what Alex Jones is guilty of, and this is why he is being removed from these platforms. Anyone who follows and accepts Jones' vitriol as fact is a hair-brained dingus who is probably also a flat-earther.
Nah. The Flat Earthers are the "Muh Russia" groupies. As I have said here enough to the point of aggravating half the board:
There is more proof the Earth is flat than there is Russia changed even one vote.
But I'm the Flat Earther. Surprised I'm not called a moon landing denier too.
My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
False argument. There is no monopoly on cake making businesses. Apple/Youtube/Facebook, etc.. have a monopoly on electronic/social media.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
False argument. There is no monopoly on cake making businesses. Apple/Youtube/Facebook, etc.. have a monopoly on electronic/social media.
You can create your own social networking/video sharing platform if you'd like. No one is stopping you. Now, you might have to incur greater costs to get the same good, the option open to you might be inferior, there might not be enough of a customer base to make it commercially viable (or you late entry into the market might be much more expensive than that of the original entrants), and you might have to delay or alter what you were planning to do, but no one is stopping you from doing it.
Besides those companies have TOCs that cover stuff like Jones' rants too. You agreed to it when you hit their page. See he agreed, right. And they are just putting their values into practice by refusing to do business with people who behave poorly on their property.
See no discrimination. There's no monopoly either.
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2018 02:09 PM by Tom in Lazybrook.)
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
No one should be silenced, even despicable fat pig *******, but I don't care if Jones and his fake news chokes on vomit. Why don't people just go to his site anyway if they are interested in his lies, bs and crappy supplements.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
but there's more than one baker ...
DIFFERENCE BEING
There's more than one social networking platform too. There's actually a LOT of them. Its just that the social networking platform he wishes to use is easier/cheaper for him to reach who he wants to reach. In other words, more convenient.
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2018 02:12 PM by Tom in Lazybrook.)
(08-06-2018 02:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: There's more than one social networking platform too. There's actually a LOT of them. Its just that the social networking platform he wishes to use is easier/cheaper for him to reach who he wants to reach. In other words, more convenient.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
If Youtube wants to ban Alex Jones or conservatives, thats perfectly fine. However, they will no longer be covered by the shield law which protects them from lawsuits from false information thats published on their site.
(08-06-2018 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: My thought process on this is real simple, if you support the rights of businesses like that cake guy and Hobby Lobby to make choices about how they want to run their private businesses then don’t cry now. This is the logical step from those decisions. You can’t force someone to bake a cake for a gay couple simply because he thinks that’s vile, well those companies think infowars is vile and don’t want to allow their services to spread those views. Either you can force companies to do things they don’t want or you can’t, pick a side and stick with it.
but there's more than one baker ...
DIFFERENCE BEING
Free market!!! He can create his own service if he wants to. Funny as hell to hear the right cry about a monopoly all of a sudden. Either those are bad and need to be regulated or free markets and let companies do what they want and stay out of it. Funny to see the policies I’ve heard the right scream they want get used against them. Toughen up snowflake this is the truly free market you’ve all been begging for. Deal with it.
"Blacks can use other businesses drinking fountains" (pre civil rights act)
"Conservatives can use other social media platforms"
It was the left in the 60's fighting the civil rights act - including Robert C Byrd - Hillary's "mentor" as she called him, who tried to filibuster it.