(08-03-2018 11:11 AM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 09:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Awesome job by all involved that made COA happen across the board at JMU.....this includes Donors, Coaches, Bourne, King, and Alger. With our facilities and COA this makes a strong statement about the commitment to athletics across the board.

I know the family of a 2018 football recruit and it caught my ear when his mom told me back in early June that next year her son would be getting a stipend. I was not sure if it was accurate or not so did not mention it.

Add Delaware Athletics to this bolded list above.

Some behind the curtain info... Delaware Athletics made the move to offer COA for football, so then JMU felt they needed to follow suit. Once JMU decided to offer for football they had to offer for all sports due to title IX.

Has UD announced it anywhere? I only see it for basketball.

This is pure speculation but I bet Houston told JB he would not sign a 10 year contract without support for a temporarily indoor practice facility until a permanent structure can be built once the new Convo is completed (check) and the school supports COA for the football program because helps recruiting. The only way JB and Alger could offer stipends to football players was to offer them to all athletes. Houston has some pull in Harrisonburg.

(08-03-2018 11:11 AM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 09:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Awesome job by all involved that made COA happen across the board at JMU.....this includes Donors, Coaches, Bourne, King, and Alger. With our facilities and COA this makes a strong statement about the commitment to athletics across the board.

I know the family of a 2018 football recruit and it caught my ear when his mom told me back in early June that next year her son would be getting a stipend. I was not sure if it was accurate or not so did not mention it.

Add Delaware Athletics to this bolded list above.

Some behind the curtain info... Delaware Athletics made the move to offer COA for football, so then JMU felt they needed to follow suit. Once JMU decided to offer for football they had to offer for all sports due to title IX.

Kudos to all that made this happen! While I'm not convinced it is linked to anything brewing on FBS (love to be wrong), it at least will keep us firmly in the elite tier of FCS.

Once NDSU offered COA, I felt it was a matter of time until other schools did also. Figured it would be other MVFC schools to move first. With JMU (and UD?) offering COA, it will also put pressure on other CAA schools to follow. Also wonder if it will lead to struggling schools like URI folding.

Believe the end result will be even more separation of the "P2" MVFC and CAA teams from the rest of FCS talent wise. The championship could easily become the annual MVFC vs CAA trophy.

https://www.richmond.com/sports/college/...0c9eb.html

(08-02-2018 07:19 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:32 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Very interesting. In less than 3 years Jon Alger has gone from covertly penning an anti-COA letter to approving COA for all.

What is the math? $4200 x 400 student athletes?

https://jmusports.com/documents/2015/9/2...df?id=1372

We don't know that yet. COA isn't a fixed fee. There are differences on what schools pay and it could even vary from sport to sport. Will also be interesting on how this works for athletes on partial scholarships, which many of our football players are and very many are in other sports, particularly on the women's side and the olympic sports. Basketball gets $4,200. Would be surprised if all athletes get that same amount.

Would be surprised if JMU offers differing amounts to different athletes. This is supposed to be set/calculated by Financial Aid employees, and not completely arbitrary. Richmond does have an odd policy though that seems to leave it up to each sport/coach.

RTD article: https://www.richmond.com/sports/college/...0c9eb.html

(08-03-2018 07:14 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Article in the DNR 8-3 about COA. "COA Attendance Expanding."

Maybe beating fcs teams outside of NDSU and a few others by 50 is not good enough. Let's beat them by 80.

Something has to be brewing somewhere. Conservative JMU would not over build and over everything the entire CAA conference without a good reason.

Which CAA teams offer the COA now?

Spiders will be squirming that we beat them to this ( if they don't already offer).
They envy everything Purple and Gold, but will never admit it.
At this point the only chance they have at keeping us with us in football is throwing large amounts of $$ to recruits via COA.

(08-02-2018 07:19 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:32 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Very interesting. In less than 3 years Jon Alger has gone from covertly penning an anti-COA letter to approving COA for all.

What is the math? $4200 x 400 student athletes?

https://jmusports.com/documents/2015/9/2...df?id=1372

We don't know that yet. COA isn't a fixed fee. There are differences on what schools pay and it could even vary from sport to sport. Will also be interesting on how this works for athletes on partial scholarships, which many of our football players are and very many are in other sports, particularly on the women's side and the olympic sports. Basketball gets $4,200. Would be surprised if all athletes get that same amount.

It took a little digging, but I found it in one of the Bourne Monologues

“There is a bottom line impact for JMU as it will cost $125,000 annually to fund cost of attendance for basketball compared to the price tag for all sports of just over $1 million. Should the university elect to further implement cost of attendance in the future, we will need to find other revenue sources to fund it without impacting student fees.”

Does anyone know where JMU got the additional $1 million per year?
Perhaps a big fish donor that hasn’t been made public yet?

(08-02-2018 09:54 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:57 PM)Bisonlurker Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 12:23 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:11 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:05 AM)doubleduke2016 Wrote:  I saw that on twitter yesterday and had the same thought. It'd be a terrible mistake if they just used the bball template for the football kids and accidentally gave away COA. I am sure this was something Houston got but I was surprised it happened under the radar.

Not sure how this can happen with the Title IV implications. We'd almost certainly have to offer a lot of the girls sports the same. Maybe softball, WLAX, and something else got it as well.

I am not sure this is true as I believe NDSU offers COA for football and nothing else.

NDSU started giving COA to all sports in the 16-17 school year.

Football, ice hockey, curling, figure skating, dog racing? Honestly no clue how many sports you field. Imagine you guys are limited with weather. Could be wrong.

16 total, 8 each mens and womens. Weather is a huge factor, softball, baseball and golf teams play most of first half seasons in tourneys down south.

Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

15 yard personal foul penalty!!

You must include Jon Alger. At least blame Lou Rowe. Come on!! Look sharp!!

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

(08-06-2018 04:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

Take a look at the footprint of the AAC without plugging in any school names and you'll quickly see they are the worst geographical fit of all G5's with the exception being the Mountain West. When names are included we all become young studs again.

(08-06-2018 04:39 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

15 yard personal foul penalty!!

You must include Jon Alger. At least blame Lou Rowe. Come on!! Look sharp!!

My bad.

(08-06-2018 08:45 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

Take a look at the footprint of the AAC without plugging in any school names and you'll quickly see they are the worst geographical fit of all G5's with the exception being the Mountain West. When names are included we all become young studs again.

Not when you split it into divisions

(08-07-2018 07:27 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 08:45 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

Take a look at the footprint of the AAC without plugging in any school names and you'll quickly see they are the worst geographical fit of all G5's with the exception being the Mountain West. When names are included we all become young studs again.

Not when you split it into divisions

You are only thinking of football. Easy to do, but we have 15 other sports where there's little chance of divisions and our teams will be sent for some long travel.

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 07:27 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 08:45 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:36 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Fire Jeff Bourne and Charlie King!

Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

Take a look at the footprint of the AAC without plugging in any school names and you'll quickly see they are the worst geographical fit of all G5's with the exception being the Mountain West. When names are included we all become young studs again.

Not when you split it into divisions

You are only thinking of football. Easy to do, but we have 15 other sports where there's little chance of divisions and our teams will be sent for some long travel.

I'm actually not only thinking of football. When you look at geographics, football is the least of concerns. Obviously the biggest group but there are only a handful of trips a year.

(08-07-2018 10:19 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 07:27 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 08:45 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 04:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Has the geographic unicorn conference formed and JMU declined a invite to that conference too?

Take a look at the footprint of the AAC without plugging in any school names and you'll quickly see they are the worst geographical fit of all G5's with the exception being the Mountain West. When names are included we all become young studs again.

Not when you split it into divisions

You are only thinking of football. Easy to do, but we have 15 other sports where there's little chance of divisions and our teams will be sent for some long travel.

I'm actually not only thinking of football. When you look at geographics, football is the least of concerns. Obviously the biggest group but there are only a handful of trips a year.

Are you thinking we wouldn't travel to Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Wichita State, etc at a minimum of every other year to play MBB, WBB, WLAX, etc.?