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RE: Democratic Presidential Horse Race thread
(08-17-2018 11:55 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  I could be wrong, but interesting that no one has mentioned Rep. John Delaney from Maryland's sixth district (western Maryland and a smattering of DC suburbs), considering he is one of only a few (if not the only person) who has declared themselves a presidential candidate for 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-...e58fe2fcd4

If WaPo calls him "pragmatic," then he is no centrist.
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(08-17-2018 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-17-2018 11:55 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  I could be wrong, but interesting that no one has mentioned Rep. John Delaney from Maryland's sixth district (western Maryland and a smattering of DC suburbs), considering he is one of only a few (if not the only person) who has declared themselves a presidential candidate for 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-...e58fe2fcd4

If WaPo calls him "pragmatic," then he is no centrist.

Lol.
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(08-17-2018 03:58 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-17-2018 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-17-2018 11:55 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  I could be wrong, but interesting that no one has mentioned Rep. John Delaney from Maryland's sixth district (western Maryland and a smattering of DC suburbs), considering he is one of only a few (if not the only person) who has declared themselves a presidential candidate for 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-...e58fe2fcd4

If WaPo calls him "pragmatic," then he is no centrist.

Lol.

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RE: Democratic Presidential Horse Race thread
In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!
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"Nonsense" says the person who believes the term 'dog' or 'dumb' is racist. Got it. Makes perfect sense.... I will perfectly admit they are a perjorative in their own right, but you are really stretching the 'call anything and everything racist' knee-jerk envelope way past breaking when you throw that doozy out.

So instead of actually answering how the term is 'racist' you just pack up and leave. Got it. So when you get called on breaking that 'knee jerk' envelope you just pack your bags and say 'adios'. Good for you. I'd say you using the term 'adios' is fing racist then....

Times like this really make me think a 'headscratcher' emoji should be readily available......

Serious question for you JAAO: is there anytime that something isnt 'racist' in your book?
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(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.
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(08-20-2018 01:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you actually saying that the only reasonable reason someone has never used the n-word is because they were raised in an ultra left wing household?

So does that mean all other households across the political spectrum either use the word freely or do not teach their children not to use racial epithets?

So now not using racial epithets is an action that is exclusive to the far left?
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(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.
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(08-20-2018 01:27 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you actually saying that the only reasonable reason someone has never used the n-word is because they were raised in an ultra left wing household?

So does that mean all other households across the political spectrum either use the word freely or do not teach their children not to use racial epithets?

So now not using racial epithets is an action that is exclusive to the far left?

Lad, to be honest, this is kind of like the 'age limit' for pot. There is an age, probably north of 65, that 95 per cent of the people have used the weed at some point in their life.

There is another age limit, that there exists an age where 95 per cent of the people have actually used the n-word at some point in their life. If you are above 50 and from either the South or the West, 99 per cent of the people in those categories have actually used that word at some point in their life.

Horrors, yes..... I have used that word in my much earlier life.

The only people I know that are above 50 that have not used that word are, horrors, so imbued in progressivism they make *you* look like a fing John Bircher.

The attitude of those just at 30 today with their view on the word today is worlds different than the South and West of only just 30 years ago (you know, right about the time you were born....). I am not against that change, even in the slightest. But I find it amusing that you are astonished that that world even existed in the timeline of people you actually know.
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(08-20-2018 01:27 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you actually saying that the only reasonable reason someone has never used the n-word is because they were raised in an ultra left wing household?

So does that mean all other households across the political spectrum either use the word freely or do not teach their children not to use racial epithets?

So now not using racial epithets is an action that is exclusive to the far left?

I think children repeat what they hear from adults and other kids. If one escapes the first ten years of their life without hearing certain words and using them if in those ten years they need no correction, then I don't know what else it can attributed to. Maybe he was taken to rallies as a tot.

I was raised in an 85% hispanic community. I remember vividly a friend's mother correcting him when he described another friend of ours as "mexican". He had to ask what terms t use, and she told him "latino", and for whites, "anglo", a convention I stick with to this day, despite a personal preference for "Tejano" over Latino. What exactly does latino mean? Latin was the language of Italians and clerics.

I has been chastised, many years ago, for using the terms "colored" and "negro". I have stopped using them, generaly using the term"black" now.

Regardless of what words I have used, and regardless of the words used against me, I have never felt any hatred toward any group based on race or ethnicity. Not once.
swo I get tired of all these labels being being pinned on me. I am not a monster, and I am not a deplorable, nor am I a bitter clinger.

I have had Anglo friends refer to me as a "mexican", and I have had mexican friends (mexican means a citizen of mexico, remember?) refer to me as "gringo". The key words there are "friends". The context and intent of words need to be taken into account.

I watch the TV show "Power", and if the N-word hurts your sensibilities, don't watch it. They even refer to latinos as "Spanish N----rs". A mostly black cast, a black producer, but they all use the word. Maybe 100 times or more an hour. Go complain to the network that they are racist.

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(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)
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(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.
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(08-20-2018 01:42 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:27 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you actually saying that the only reasonable reason someone has never used the n-word is because they were raised in an ultra left wing household?

So does that mean all other households across the political spectrum either use the word freely or do not teach their children not to use racial epithets?

So now not using racial epithets is an action that is exclusive to the far left?

Lad, to be honest, this is kind of like the 'age limit' for pot. There is an age, probably north of 65, that 95 per cent of the people have used the weed at some point in their life.

There is another age limit, that there exists an age where 95 per cent of the people have actually used the n-word at some point in their life. If you are above 50 and from either the South or the West, 99 per cent of the people in those categories have actually used that word at some point in their life.

Horrors, yes..... I have used that word in my much earlier life.

The only people I know that are above 50 that have not used that word are, horrors, so imbued in progressivism they make *you* look like a fing John Bircher.

The attitude of those just at 30 today with their view on the word today is worlds different than the South and West of only just 30 years ago (you know, right about the time you were born....). I am not against that change, even in the slightest. But I find it amusing that you are astonished that that world even existed in the timeline of people you actually know.

I'm astonished at the unqualified nature of the statement. Your comment makes a lot of sense, but since I have no idea how old JAAO is nor where he was born and raised, and I wasn't quite sure if OO was making the same nuanced comment you are. Obviously times change and people learn and change their behaviors (either in a reformed sense, or at least in a socially unacceptable sense), but that aspect was sorely missing from OO's response.

I do think you're a bit short on the amount of time it's been since we could have expected to see significant changes in attitude. Someone who is turning 40 this year (born in '78) may very well have never heard the n-word used in their household, nor used it themselves. The Civil Rights Bill would have been almost 20 years old by the time they went to kindergarten, and that at least provides a barometer of changing attitudes on race issues in the US.
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(08-20-2018 01:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.

What sort of proof would be required for you to think Trump has done something racist/is racist?
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(08-20-2018 02:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.

What sort of proof would be required for you to think Trump has done something racist/is racist?

Throw them out there and let's see it.
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(08-20-2018 02:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'd say you using the term 'adios' is ... racist then....

I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.

What sort of proof would be required for you to think Trump has done something racist/is racist?

Quite a bit more than he used the term 'dog' and 'dumb', if that point wasnt clear enough by now. 03-wink
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I wonder...did I do something racist by attending an all white school? (Rice, 1963)

Did the rest of you do something racist by attending a formerly a white school?
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(08-20-2018 02:15 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 02:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.

What sort of proof would be required for you to think Trump has done something racist/is racist?

Throw them out there and let's see it.

What if Trump was sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination because there was evidence that, at one of his properties, he wouldn't rent to African-American tenants?

What if Trump repeatedly, and publicly, made claims that a POC wasn't born in the US, without any proof to back it up? And what if those claims continued after that person released their long-form birth certificate?

What if Trump used the term "Pocahontas" to try and attack a US Senator for an alleged (but unverified) employment issue?

What if there are tapes of Trump using the n-word in a derogatory manner?

My guess is that, if the first three issues don't make you question whether Trump has either done racist things in the past, or is himself, a racist, the fourth won't either.
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(08-20-2018 02:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 02:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:59 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I think it was personal.

Funny thing about two things.

First I've been called 'hijo de puta' more time than I can even fathom. Does that make the term 'double racism" since it has the dog reference and is in Spanish?

Second, I've been called a 'dumb son of a *****', again. more times than I can count. I guess since JAAO wants 'dumb' and 'dog' to be *racist*, is that term noted at the beginning of the sentence now deemed to be doubly racist"

Third, wtf do I make of the term 'I double dog dare you' now?

I think JAAO just made the exact opposite score on what he wanted so desperately to portray..... but, what do I know. Im just (to many) a dumb son of a *****. (Im such a dumb son of a ***** I listed three things after I mention two.....)

You sly old dog.

I oppose racism, and policies built upon racism, regardless of the race(s) involved. I would oppose Trump's racism if any could be demonstrated. But just like the collusion investigation, I have been shown nothing. They interpret things as they want and then claim their interpretations as facts.



Both of them need to spend 14 minutes watching the video I posted.

What sort of proof would be required for you to think Trump has done something racist/is racist?

Quite a bit more than he used the term 'dog' and 'dumb', if that point wasnt clear enough by now. 03-wink

It's almost as if we have an entire body of work to judge Trump by, and this singular action in a vacuum isn't racist, but when put into the context of everything Trump has said/done over the past few years, it's not easy to come to the same conclusion that there's no racial animus behind it.
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(08-20-2018 02:10 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:42 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:27 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 01:22 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 12:34 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwlStill Wrote:  In answer to Owlnumbers' question - no, I have never used the n-word. Ever. Never would occur to me.

Honestly don't know if you and OO are being delusional or disingenuous, or just genuinely so out of touch you believe your constant nonsense rationalizations of Trump's racism, but I don't really care any more.

Adios!

So, more name calling, another exit, and a bit of cultural appropriation. I guess you really do think of anybody who disagrees with you as a deplorable monster.

I remember my mother telling me not to use that word, so certainly I must have used it at some point. If you can attest that you have NEVER used that word, then I guess you must have been brought up in an ultra left wing household that taught you political correctness before you could speak.

Have you never referred to anybody as a dog? I have been referred to as a dog. You did it, when you said I was reacting to dog whistles. But others have done so as well, and in a less malevolent manner. I have been called a sly old dog, and a salty old dog, and good old dog (how does old seem to always get into that?) Doggone it all. Even had a former girl friend tell me I was a dog.

I am getting tired of your holier-than-anybody act, so adios. Vaya con Dios. Have a safe trip without hearing other opinions. May all your communications be PC.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you actually saying that the only reasonable reason someone has never used the n-word is because they were raised in an ultra left wing household?

So does that mean all other households across the political spectrum either use the word freely or do not teach their children not to use racial epithets?

So now not using racial epithets is an action that is exclusive to the far left?

Lad, to be honest, this is kind of like the 'age limit' for pot. There is an age, probably north of 65, that 95 per cent of the people have used the weed at some point in their life.

There is another age limit, that there exists an age where 95 per cent of the people have actually used the n-word at some point in their life. If you are above 50 and from either the South or the West, 99 per cent of the people in those categories have actually used that word at some point in their life.

Horrors, yes..... I have used that word in my much earlier life.

The only people I know that are above 50 that have not used that word are, horrors, so imbued in progressivism they make *you* look like a fing John Bircher.

The attitude of those just at 30 today with their view on the word today is worlds different than the South and West of only just 30 years ago (you know, right about the time you were born....). I am not against that change, even in the slightest. But I find it amusing that you are astonished that that world even existed in the timeline of people you actually know.

I'm astonished at the unqualified nature of the statement. Your comment makes a lot of sense, but since I have no idea how old JAAO is nor where he was born and raised, and I wasn't quite sure if OO was making the same nuanced comment you are. Obviously times change and people learn and change their behaviors (either in a reformed sense, or at least in a socially unacceptable sense), but that aspect was sorely missing from OO's response.

I do think you're a bit short on the amount of time it's been since we could have expected to see significant changes in attitude. Someone who is turning 40 this year (born in '78) may very well have never heard the n-word used in their household, nor used it themselves. The Civil Rights Bill would have been almost 20 years old by the time they went to kindergarten, and that at least provides a barometer of changing attitudes on race issues in the US.

I cant disagree with you on the timeline, I can really only state what it is for this 'over *that* limit' guy.

My best guess is that the usage plummets from the 50ish time frame to the early 40's. It really wasnt until after I was in college that the usage of that word changed from 'thats really bad' to being pretty much unfathomable.

But Id peg the age limit of 99 per cent using it in the early 50's.

To be blunt, I remember the Mark Fuhrman stuff in the mid 90's. I distinctly remember the furor over Fuhrman's use of the word in the relation to his testimony at the Simpson trial. And, I distinctly remember a classmate of mine about my same age (I was late twenties at the time) saying that if that was an issue, then he literally knows nobody who could ever testify to anything if that was to be the 'gotcha' standard. And he said that in class, mind you, where no one really disagreed with him.
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