(07-04-2018 08:06 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  Just out of curiosity, where does all the optimism that NBC is going to be a big bidder come from? They only have the 2 channels for football, right? Wouldnt they just bid a partial package since they can show so few games?

Maybe i just havent been paying enough attention to NBC when flipping through channels but it seems like the week's Notre Dame game was the only game of the day on the main station and then NBC Sports aired like 1 FBS game all last year.

Have they announced they are going all in now on college football?

For the record, im genuinely curious. Im not an AAC hater as I went to UCF before transferring to UNT. Im still a closet Golden Knight.

The current deal we have was originally offered by NBC and matched by ESPN. The Navy Notre Dame game has real value for them (it's worth 2.5 million as a ND home game) Currently they appear to have made space indicating they will be bidding. A game a week OTA to match with ND and stand alone when ND doesn't have a home game and our championship game would give them a solid product to sell for advertisers. I could see them pick up some filler inventory for NBC sports as well.

(07-03-2018 04:06 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Each university will be handed one of these a year:

LOL. I have several Zims from my trip there in 2007. Literally not worth the paper it is printed on.

(07-03-2018 06:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2018 12:25 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  8 to 12? I can’t see that happening with networks overbidding for P5 last round.

4 to 6 would amaze, but not surprise.

4 to 6 wouldn't amaze anybody here.

I'd be semi-amazed at 6. I expect that we'll get 4, with a lock-tight clause that it's all void if anyone leaves the conference.

(07-05-2018 11:55 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-03-2018 06:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2018 12:25 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  8 to 12? I can’t see that happening with networks overbidding for P5 last round.

4 to 6 would amaze, but not surprise.

4 to 6 wouldn't amaze anybody here.

I'd be semi-amazed at 6. I expect that we'll get 4, with a lock-tight clause that it's all void if anyone leaves the conference.

If Aresco brings a 6 mil a year contract to the presidents to sign, he should be fired. If the Presidents sign it, they should be fired as well.

(07-05-2018 12:03 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 11:55 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-03-2018 06:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2018 12:25 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  8 to 12? I can’t see that happening with networks overbidding for P5 last round.

4 to 6 would amaze, but not surprise.

4 to 6 wouldn't amaze anybody here.

I'd be semi-amazed at 6. I expect that we'll get 4, with a lock-tight clause that it's all void if anyone leaves the conference.

If Aresco brings a 6 mil a year contract to the presidents to sign, he should be fired. If the Presidents sign it, they should be fired as well.

Well, there's always Youtube for ad-click revenue. Each school will get an 11 dollar direct deposit each quarter.

8 should be the floor. 10 the happy medium and 12 the ceiling.

(07-05-2018 01:23 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  8 should be the floor. 10 the happy medium and 12 the ceiling.

Right there with you.

8 floor
10 happy medium
12 great
15 max out ceiling, need an on the field crushing it run up

(07-05-2018 01:23 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  8 should be the floor. 10 the happy medium and 12 the ceiling.

8 is the ceiling

5 is the floor

If we get 5 or 6 mil/team I agree Aresco should get fired.

(07-05-2018 02:18 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  If we get 5 or 6 mil/team I agree Aresco should get fired.

You beat me to it. He's talked too big a game for it to only be that much.

(07-05-2018 02:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 02:18 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  If we get 5 or 6 mil/team I agree Aresco should get fired.

You beat me to it. He's talked too big a game for it to only be that much.

We can only get so much for filler tv time, its not Aresco's fault if espn doesn't want to pay 8-10 mil per for what they consider filler tv time.

the man can only do so much

when are we thinking of hearing news out of ESPN?

P6 type pay is double digits. He talked the game, now it's time to back it up, so it is his fault if he doesn't deliver it. Our conference has proven we're well worth the pay bump.

(07-05-2018 02:31 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  P6 type pay is double digits. He talked the game, now it's time to back it up, so it is his fault if he doesn't deliver it. Our conference has proven we're well worth the pay bump.

well yeah, i agree, but espn doesn't consider us prime time, they view is a filler tv time and I dont think we are not going 10 mil per more for filler tv time. Do we deserve it yes, but that doesn't mean we are going to get it.

(07-05-2018 02:31 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  P6 type pay is double digits. He talked the game, now it's time to back it up, so it is his fault if he doesn't deliver it. Our conference has proven we're well worth the pay bump.

This. I think most here would have been disappointed but ultimately OK with the $6 to $8 Mil range. He simply shouldn't have opened his mouth regarding "P5 money" (which to me is $10 Mil +) if he can't deliver. We shall see.

(07-05-2018 02:31 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  P6 type pay is double digits. He talked the game, now it's time to back it up, so it is his fault if he doesn't deliver it. Our conference has proven we're well worth the pay bump.

He's talking a big game trying to drum up interest. The fact of the matter is that we ARE filler time to ESPN, at least during prime college football timeslots. I don't think that there will be a situation where we're regulars on ESPN or ESPN2 on Saturdays. There are only so many channels, and the other P6 currently have those locked down.

I wish we were in a situation where they were willing to retire a high-priced deal with another conference, get us for 10m, put us on ESPN on Saturdays at Noon and 3:30, and build some value from their investment, but that's just not happening.

I do agree that we're worth more than our current deal. I also think that there could be competition to get us at higher than our current rate. I don't, however, think that if ESPN offers us 6m per team, that NBC, CBS, or one of the internet companies is going to swoop in and offer us more. Just a hunch. Hope I'm wrong.

(07-05-2018 02:04 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 01:23 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  8 should be the floor. 10 the happy medium and 12 the ceiling.

Right there with you.

8 floor
10 happy medium
12 great
15 max out ceiling, need an on the field crushing it run up

The ceiling is the roof. 20mil per and a showcase game every week on ABC on Monday night.

Why is it that people that want to downplay our contract amounts always state that we're "only filler" to ESPN and that we'll never get decent $$ because ESPN doesn't have the money slots available for us, but always seem to overlook the fact that everyone predicting 8+mil are expecting the money to come from network operators and sources that will have the windows and timeslots available

(07-05-2018 05:31 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Why is it that people that want to downplay our contract amounts always state that we're "only filler" to ESPN and that we'll never get decent $$ because ESPN doesn't have the money slots available for us, but always seem to overlook the fact that everyone predicting 8+mil are expecting the money to come from network operators and sources that will have the windows and timeslots available

I think that you have come to the pivotal glass half empty v glass half full factor. People will believe what they want. I like Big Houston analysis. He analogizes network ratings and money of other sports to capture our value. This makes sense to me. The filler argument has no merit since the circumstances are not static. Espn can always change their schedule around.

Or big bad ESPN may have a plan that low balls the AAC --- kills the existing Big 12 after the expiration of their GoR --- and recreates that conference as the new tweeter with the moving over of a few AAC schools. The new order being a P4 with only 4 big contracts, the new Big 12 with a tweeter conteact, and the remainder 2 million a school in the G5.