(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

I'd say David is getting scared because his thinks his teat is going dry. No one in his family works so I'd say it's a real fear.

It’s time to really hold a serious discussion on what is going on in the U.S.?

Problem is we have always been divided, but it has never been this bad in a very long time. I think people back in the 1920’s and 1930’s had to learn how to move on. There was a sense of we are in this together, today we do not have that. Nowadays we can’t do that we have become so polarized by today’s politics, and it’s a shift in America’s morals, and our attitude towards one another. Eventually this will lead to Civil War. Think we need to try to be more understanding towards one another, and try to work together, because we are all in this together.

Until the Fake News outlets start to quell their hate and biases it will continue. Many of the people I know only watch the MSM and they gorge themselves on this garbage that they throw out for these ignorant people.

Democrats just need to get a grip, and recognize that just because they keep losing and are out of (what they think are) reasonable arguments, doesn't mean they are now entitled to lash out.

Take SCOTUS, for example. They don't even have an argument, they just keep saying that a conservative court is unacceptable. Umm, how so? Where in the Constitution does it say that liberals are entitled to a majority on SCOTUS?

Civil war (lol) isn't on the horizon. A lot of protesting (whining) and some mild antifa violence, but the vast majority of the alt-left couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag, and they have no intention of trying.

David's complaining is sour grapes. Oh, and Trump a right wing extremist ? Ha! He is about the first true moderate since Jerry Ford.

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

What's wrong with you.

(06-30-2018 04:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

What's wrong with you.

It's the oil in the potato chips and the sugar in his cola. It's killing him and he doesn't even know it.

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

He was duly elected president, how is he not legit? This is a god example of TDS.

David, the political arena is not for you. I would suggest finding some more D2 schools to upgrade.


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(06-30-2018 04:29 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

He was duly elected president, how is he not legit? This is a good example of TDS. David, turn CNN off you are too gullible to watch it.

David, the political arena is not for you. I would suggest finding some more D2 schools to upgrade.


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(06-30-2018 04:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I consider Trump as a fraud and a con artist. He belongs in prison. He is not legitimate President of the USA. I would say that about Hillary Clinton as well.

What's wrong with you.

he had an inner ear issue as a youth and never learned why Helen Keller would curb stomp his whiny little arse.....

disclaimer: blindfold not req'd to pin that tail on the donk.....

The potential 21st century civil war will be an asymmetrical one which will make the brutality of the 1860's look tame by comparison.

(06-30-2018 05:52 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The potential 21st century civil war will be an asymmetrical one which will make the brutality of the 1860's look tame by comparison.

the difference between then and today is a fully established land mass, an over taxed system, 10x the numbers of flesh (that believe they're free), and flesh now has something to lose (USD)......

it's an entire different animal.....it's a stupid comparative in scope.....

so yes.....you're correct....

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Democrats appear to be down to two issues:

"Hitler"
and
"Putin"

With no proof for either.

Totally unfair. Democrats have lots of other issues besides Hitler and Putin.

Examples:

1. Free Health Care — and all the other stuff we want is free, too.
2. Abolish ICE. No more deportations. Open borders from here on out.
3. Turn in your guns. All of them. Do it now.
4. You’ve had your turn, People of Non-Color. Sit down and shut up.
5. Whatever the GQBLT people say or do or want — the answer is Yes.
6. Abortion: any time, any place, for any reason or no reason.
7. FU€K off, Israel.

(06-30-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 01:35 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Democrats appear to be down to two issues:

"Hitler"
and
"Putin"

With no proof for either.

Totally unfair. Democrats have lots of other issues besides Hitler and Putin.

Examples:

1. Free Health Care — and all the other stuff we want is free, too.
2. Abolish ICE. No more deportations. Open borders from here on out.
3. Turn in your guns. All of them. Do it now.
4. You’ve had your turn, People of Non-Color. Sit down and shut up.
5. Whatever the GQBLT people say or do or want — the answer is Yes.
6. Abortion: any time, any place, for any reason or no reason.
7. FU€K off, Israel.

to both of yaz.....it's "all the above"....

that's why all this bs is fonzies, eh?

I think most of us wish the left would do an 'about face' and start discussing real issues that are economically relevant......

however, we all know that's not going to happen......

therefore, in the vein of viewing politics over my lifetime, I'm just gonna keep laughing until they develop a fk'n clue and hope the numbers don't overwhelm sanity.....

I fail to see how open borders is compatible with gun confiscation and special rights for LGBTQI+. The Mexican and Central American drug cartels aren’t coming to America to turn in their guns, and the fundamentalist Muslims are going to have zero tolerance for homosexuality, or for that matter, the generally permissive moral climate of Western culture in general.

Or in other words, Tom in Lazybrook becomes Tom six feet under Lazybrook with open borders.

(06-30-2018 08:01 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  I fail to see how open borders is compatible with gun confiscation and special rights for LGBTQI+. The Mexican and Central American drug cartels aren’t coming to America to turn in their guns, and the fundamentalist Muslims are going to have zero tolerance for homosexuality, or for that matter, the generally permissive moral climate of Western culture in general.

Or in other words, Tom in Lazybrook becomes Tom six feet under Lazybrook with open borders.

...or their boy toy....

As I said in the last thread: we’re too fat to be fighting. Can’t have a war when your young people have gout.

If it did happen, Frito-Lay would have some fat ration contracts.

(06-30-2018 08:01 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  I fail to see how open borders is compatible with gun confiscation and special rights for LGBTQI+. The Mexican and Central American drug cartels aren’t coming to America to turn in their guns, and the fundamentalist Muslims are going to have zero tolerance for homosexuality, or for that matter, the generally permissive moral climate of Western culture in general.

I never claimed they had really thought this all the way through. They will happily leave the contradictions for a future generation to sort out.

And for the record, I know a LOT of Democrats who do not believe all (or any) of the items on the above list. No matter. It’s still where the train is headed.

(06-30-2018 11:06 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:14 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think we are already in a soft civil war. A civil war occurs when one political faction refuses to recognize the legitimate outcome of the elective process, and refuses to accept the resulting governance as legitimate.

We have already met that criterion.

to expand on that thought...

if in an urban center, one has been for some time...

rural centers are still ‘hunky and dory’....

the question then becomes, “how long before the over taxed exodus comes to fruition and the impact it will have”

people with a clue know it’s coming.....is simply a matter of when...:

I think we can avoid a civil war, soft or otherwise, if we are smart enough as a Federal Government to say to sanctuary cities that they will no longer receive any Federal assistance in the form of law enforcement, grants, or any other form of financial aid up to and including social security, welfare, WIC, medicare/medicaid, CDC, FEMA, or any other assistance and that they no longer have to pay Federal Taxes.

But they will assume all liability for medical care, births, welfare and pubic assistance for their illegals. And that their citizens are responsible for their vote to declare themselves a sanctuary city and for the costs of taking in the illegals. Furthermore they will be declared city states and a passport will be required to travel in the rest of free America.

Face it guys the divide in this country is between major very left metropolitan areas and the rest of us. Let them wallow in the mire that they expect the rest of us to pay for and let them feel the isolation from the rest of the country they choose to ignore.

And furthermore corporations that want to support sanctuary cities need to locate there as their goods and services will be subject to tariffs in the rest of Free America.

I promise you guys this crap would come to a grinding halt and the Sanctuary Cities would be begging the Feds and National Guard to come in and clean out the illegals just as soon as they realized without the rest of the nation to roam and find victims in that the illegals would be preying upon their ignorant privileged butts!

This and only this can unify the nation. There is no conservative so convinced of their position as a liberal who has been victimized by the actions of their own ignorance.

(06-30-2018 09:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 11:06 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:14 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think we are already in a soft civil war. A civil war occurs when one political faction refuses to recognize the legitimate outcome of the elective process, and refuses to accept the resulting governance as legitimate.

We have already met that criterion.

to expand on that thought...

if in an urban center, one has been for some time...

rural centers are still ‘hunky and dory’....

the question then becomes, “how long before the over taxed exodus comes to fruition and the impact it will have”

people with a clue know it’s coming.....is simply a matter of when...:

I think we can avoid a civil war, soft or otherwise, if we are smart enough as a Federal Government to say to sanctuary cities that they will no longer receive any Federal assistance in the form of law enforcement, grants, or any other form of financial aid up to and including social security, welfare, WIC, medicare/medicaid, CDC, FEMA, or any other assistance and that they no longer have to pay Federal Taxes.

But they will assume all liability for medical care, births, welfare and pubic assistance for their illegals. And that their citizens are responsible for their vote to declare themselves a sanctuary city and for the costs of taking in the illegals. Furthermore they will be declared city states and a passport will be required to travel in the rest of free America.

Face it guys the divide in this country is between major very left metropolitan areas and the rest of us. Let them wallow in the mire that they expect the rest of us to pay for and let them feel the isolation from the rest of the country they choose to ignore.

And furthermore corporations that want to support sanctuary cities need to locate there as their goods and services will be subject to tariffs in the rest of Free America.

I promise you guys this crap would come to a grinding halt and the Sanctuary Cities would be begging the Feds and National Guard to come in and clean out the illegals just as soon as they realized without the rest of the nation to roam and find victims in that the illegals would be preying upon their ignorant privileged butts!

This and only this can unify the nation. There is no conservative so convinced of their position as a liberal who has been victimized by the actions of their own ignorance.

you ain' no dummy mr. vodka and moon juice.....

it's going to be interesting to see how the perimeter plays out economically in the next decade.....

they've made their bed.....let's see how they sleep in 10 yrs.....