What this means is the g league average age is going to plummet. It was formed as a developmental league, and once you are past 23 (with rare exception) your development is probably over. Most of the players in the g league will be under 21 and the g league will begin signing 3 year guaranteed contracts with immediate release if an NBA contract is offered.
This means that the g league will get more interest and with 51000 tv channels devoted to sports all of the games will be televised so mom and pop can watch every game no matter where they live.
I do not believe this will destroy college basketball. Good coaches will have good teams, great coaches will have great teams, and coaches like Calipari will retire. The college game will benefit for college fans and players and will diminish for casual fans, elite players, and (with the exception of the national tournament) national interest.
Basketball has changed many times since I became a fan back in the 1950s, and it will continue to change. My love of the game as a fan has never diminished and I hope I don't outlive the time when it does.

Completely disagree, SenorTiger. Bagley was the #1 recruit on some boards. If he skipped the 30 games at Duke and went straight to the NBA, his brand, whatever that means, would not have been affected. Nike gives these guys money now so they have them under contract if they blow up years from now. Kyrie was injured almost all year at Duke, didn't even start in the NCAA tourney, and he got big shoe money. Nike could care less about his year at Duke.

Bazley just got a guaranteed $1M shoe deal, will skip Syracuse, and nobody knows who he is. Shoe companies pay players as a bet on the future. Not what 'brand' they supposedly have or don't have.

(10-24-2018 01:08 PM)Keeper Wrote:  What this means is the g league average age is going to plummet. It was formed as a developmental league, and once you are past 23 (with rare exception) your development is probably over. Most of the players in the g league will be under 21 and the g league will begin signing 3 year guaranteed contracts with immediate release if an NBA contract is offered.
This means that the g league will get more interest and with 51000 tv channels devoted to sports all of the games will be televised so mom and pop can watch every game no matter where they live.
I do not believe this will destroy college basketball. Good coaches will have good teams, great coaches will have great teams, and coaches like Calipari will retire. The college game will benefit for college fans and players and will diminish for casual fans, elite players, and (with the exception of the national tournament) national interest.
Basketball has changed many times since I became a fan back in the 1950s, and it will continue to change. My love of the game as a fan has never diminished and I hope I don't outlive the time when it does.

I think your post is largely true.

G League will become a true minor league. Portland only one of 30 teams that hasn't announced a direct G League affiliate.

And G League games will be increasingly televised. Summer League games get very good ratings. There are very few NBA games on Saturday and Sunday afternoons because of the demands on NBA travel. NBA can put G League games in these time slots. They won't get big ratings, but costs are very low.

(10-24-2018 01:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Completely disagree, SenorTiger. Bagley was the #1 recruit on some boards. If he skipped the 30 games at Duke and went straight to the NBA, his brand, whatever that means, would not have been affected. Nike gives these guys money now so they have them under contract if they blow up years from now. Kyrie was injured almost all year at Duke, didn't even start in the NCAA tourney, and he got big shoe money. Nike could care less about his year at Duke.

Bazley just got a guaranteed $1M shoe deal, will skip Syracuse, and nobody knows who he is. Shoe companies pay players as a bet on the future. Not what 'brand' they supposedly have or don't have.

Point proven with shoe deals... Blazley skipping college and gets a shoe deal for $1 million. Bagley goes to Duke for a year and gets a $60 million shoe deal. Kyrie at Duke still got constant exposure by being talked about every time Duke played. Do you think he really think Kyrie would have been talked about sitting on the bench injured for the Erie Bayhawks?

And c'mon with "whatever brand means". Brand is why LeBron James inks endorsements for hundreds of millions and Javal McGee is wearing LeBron brand Nikes instead of the McGee Series 3...

(10-24-2018 02:37 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 01:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Completely disagree, SenorTiger. Bagley was the #1 recruit on some boards. If he skipped the 30 games at Duke and went straight to the NBA, his brand, whatever that means, would not have been affected. Nike gives these guys money now so they have them under contract if they blow up years from now. Kyrie was injured almost all year at Duke, didn't even start in the NCAA tourney, and he got big shoe money. Nike could care less about his year at Duke.

Bazley just got a guaranteed $1M shoe deal, will skip Syracuse, and nobody knows who he is. Shoe companies pay players as a bet on the future. Not what 'brand' they supposedly have or don't have.

Point proven with shoe deals... Blazley skipping college and gets a shoe deal for $1 million. Bagley goes to Duke for a year and gets a $60 million shoe deal. Kyrie at Duke still got constant exposure by being talked about every time Duke played. Do you think he really think Kyrie would have been talked about sitting on the bench injured for the Erie Bayhawks?

And c'mon with "whatever brand means". Brand is why LeBron James inks endorsements for hundreds of millions and Javal McGee is wearing LeBron brand Nikes instead of the McGee Series 3...

And Lebron didn't need a year layover at Ohio State to ink those deals.

And Kyrie didn't need to perform at Duke to get his Nike deal.

And once one-and-done ends, the Kyries of the world won't be playing for Erie anyway, they will go straight to the NBA.

This idea of building a brand playing at college for 30 games is a creation of college basketball writers.

Here's a question:

How many of the 17-man Grizzlies roster has a shoe deal?

Of those that do, how much do they pay?

"building a brand' in college?

Please.

(10-26-2018 01:52 PM)ddramone Wrote:  Here's a question:

How many of the 17-man Grizzlies roster has a shoe deal?

Of those that do, how much do they pay?

"building a brand' in college?

Please.

Anthony Davis, Kemba Walker, our very own Derrick Rose went from a top 5 pick to #1 and his shoe deal was 100X. I could go on and on. Why would you think otherwise? Grizz are horrible example. But JJJ definitely increased his $$.

Many players blow up in college. Also play so well it raises them yo another level: DRose outplaying Augustine, Collision and Westbrook (all still in NBA) made his BRAND skyrocket.

Wrong as usual, Shooters. Derrick Rose signed his huge, $185M Adidas shoe deal in Feb. ‘12 at the All Star break after he won the MVP the previous season.

And Anthony Davis would have been the #1 pick out of high school. His 6 month layover in Lexington didn’t affect his marketability one way or the other.

(10-26-2018 09:46 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 01:52 PM)ddramone Wrote:  Here's a question:

How many of the 17-man Grizzlies roster has a shoe deal?

Of those that do, how much do they pay?

"building a brand' in college?

Please.

Anthony Davis, Kemba Walker, our very own Derrick Rose went from a top 5 pick to #1 and his shoe deal was 100X. I could go on and on. Why would you think otherwise? Grizz are horrible example. But JJJ definitely increased his $$.

Many players blow up in college. Also play so well it raises them yo another level: DRose outplaying Augustine, Collision and Westbrook (all still in NBA) made his BRAND skyrocket.

I probably should not have said 'please' so sarcastically. However, I think that is a pretty good question: how many of the 17 players on the Grizz roster actually have a shoe contract?

My understanding is that a very small % of NBA players actually have a shoe contract that is worth very much.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...942228002/

"The NBA has submitted to the National Basketball Players Association a formal proposal that will lower the draft-eligible age to 18 from 19, a person with knowledge of the proposal told USA TODAY Sports. . .

This is the first step in formal negotiations to lower the age limit by the 2022 draft. The issue is collectively bargained between the NBA and NBPA, and both sides need to agree to any rule change."

The college game will be more enjoyable without the 1 & dones.

Poor Calipari..what will he do when he actually has to coach?

(06-17-2018 10:25 AM)BigBlueTiger901 Wrote:  

(06-17-2018 10:21 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 03:06 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 03:01 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 02:59 PM)Tigx Wrote:  College hoops is going to change a lot the next few years. NBA has to give teams time to adjust to the new rules, because it affects the value of draft picks in trades. Likely makes the '21 draft very strong, since it will have the top Freshman and HS players that season.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23804...y-shift-21

"The NBA on Friday sent teams a memo indicating that "eligibility rules" for the draft may shift as early as 2021 (but no earlier) as the league reviews issues "related to player development and the corruption investigation in college basketball . . ."

Adam Silver ain't playing around. 27 of the 30 NBA teams have G-League affiliates now. NBA basically telling college basketball we don't need you anymore. NCAA is feckless, can't fix a corrupt system. So NBA will just make top players pros each year, and let them skip the 6 month layover on college campuses. Lesser players can develop in G-League, top players go right to NBA rosters.

That may be good for us since we just hired the coach of the top player in the 2020 class.

But it's bad for college hoops long-term. Most top players have no desire to attend classes, even fake ones at North Carolina. Silver has been signaling this for a long time. The NCAA feeder system works for football, but not for hoops anymore.

It’s better for college hoops long term. Because the focus isn’t on players who don’t want to play in college, but those who actually want to be there.

I agree... having guys like Ayton, Bagley, Simmons, Towns, Davis, Wall, Oden, and Rose in college for a season did nothing to help viewership. We will see better, more fine-tuned basketball in March as well. Personally, I would eliminate the rule and continue to speed up the game at the collegiate level for more entertaining games.

(02-21-2019 06:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The college game will be more enjoyable without the 1 & dones.

But won't we still have one-and-dones? As I understand it, freshman will still be able to declare for the draft. The difference is many top HS seniors will bypass college entirely.

(02-21-2019 06:47 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-21-2019 06:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The college game will be more enjoyable without the 1 & dones.

But won't we still have one-and-dones? As I understand it, freshman will still be able to declare for the draft. The difference is many top HS seniors will bypass college entirely.

There will be some still. Probably not as many though.

Calipari will retire when that takes affect. Memphis will be okay though. A lot of good d-1 talent around the area that fly under the radar.

So, Tubby will turn into a good coach again? Like in the 90’s?

I hated that era of NBA basketball at that time, they were undiscliplined and took years to develop. If you look at the numbers you would be surprised at how big of a difference 1 year of college made.

(02-21-2019 09:20 PM)micman Wrote:  So, Tubby will turn into a good coach again? Like in the 90’s?

I’m watching high point on espn right now. He hasn’t turned yet? but he did stand up a couple times

Edit: .and the espn announcer just said,
“Tubby Smith will assume the position back in his chair.”