(07-14-2018 05:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 11:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Am I your insider? Lol.

Glass is very talented. Very good arm and has good wheels.

I'm aware of the dangers of making prognosications from tape, even JUCO tape, but he really impressed me when I looked at his videos earlier this year.

I'm trying to remember but it seems I saw him throw 45 yard throws accurately in game action. Some times tapes lie if a 290 lbs. OT is blocking a 220 lbs DE who can't bench 225 lbs more than a few times. But at QB, the ability to complete a 45 - 50 yard rope (throw, not catch and run) is something which can be seen on tape.

Also was very impressed with Glass' ability to move, scramble and run.

I think some of us, including me, E'Tough, etc. are looking at very spirited competition between Wiegers, Glass and Grissom.

Wiegers lacks much playing time but has 4 years in B1G football.

Glass has all the tools. And Grissom has a very high ceiling. He just needs to go out and develop his talent and be as good as his raw abilities are.

This all will be the great mystery of August and September.

Grissom not going to be a factor this year, Jackson already ahead of him with his early arrival and Spring work. Jackson may have a real shot at being a legit MAC QB down the road.

Glass is the best QB on the roster, with the best arm by far. Only question, will he get a real opportunity. Very similar to Turner out of the backfield.

Stiebeling kinda floating in 2nd/3rd place.............Hutchinson 3rd/4th.

Wiegers seems to be the leader in the clubhouse right now because of his Big10 practice reps, maturity & ability to pick up the offense, and most importantly his early arrival and Spring ball reps.

Really see a 2 man race between Wiegers and Glass, ultimately not decided until the end of camp. Wouldn't mind seeing both with equal reps in the home opener to really see who operates best in a real live game situation.

May the best man win, and a couple of the new guys show promise for the future!

This is a GREAT post. Thank you.

It frames 2018 (Wiegers and Glass as pre-season top 2) and 2019 (Glass, et. al.).

What I think it shows, and this is purely prognostican, is that we have two QBs who will be ready August 31 to lead the team in FBS and also we have a collection of QBs who will capable in 2019 and beyond.

I don't see a shortage of talent. The frosh have time to develop. The staff will need to give everyone a fair chance to compete and keep everyone happy. Spring ball 2019 and '20 will be very interesting as he have evolved into the post-Roback era.

(07-14-2018 05:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 11:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Am I your insider? Lol.

Glass is very talented. Very good arm and has good wheels.

I'm aware of the dangers of making prognosications from tape, even JUCO tape, but he really impressed me when I looked at his videos earlier this year.

I'm trying to remember but it seems I saw him throw 45 yard throws accurately in game action. Some times tapes lie if a 290 lbs. OT is blocking a 220 lbs DE who can't bench 225 lbs more than a few times. But at QB, the ability to complete a 45 - 50 yard rope (throw, not catch and run) is something which can be seen on tape.

Also was very impressed with Glass' ability to move, scramble and run.

I think some of us, including me, E'Tough, etc. are looking at very spirited competition between Wiegers, Glass and Grissom.

Wiegers lacks much playing time but has 4 years in B1G football.

Glass has all the tools. And Grissom has a very high ceiling. He just needs to go out and develop his talent and be as good as his raw abilities are.

This all will be the great mystery of August and September.

Grissom not going to be a factor this year, Jackson already ahead of him with his early arrival and Spring work. Jackson may have a real shot at being a legit MAC QB down the road.

Glass is the best QB on the roster, with the best arm by far. Only question, will he get a real opportunity. Very similar to Turner out of the backfield.

Stiebeling kinda floating in 2nd/3rd place.............Hutchinson 3rd/4th.

Wiegers seems to be the leader in the clubhouse right now because of his Big10 practice reps, maturity & ability to pick up the offense, and most importantly his early arrival and Spring ball reps.

Really see a 2 man race between Wiegers and Glass, ultimately not decided until the end of camp. Wouldn't mind seeing both with equal reps in the home opener to really see who operates best in a real live game situation.

May the best man win, and a couple of the new guys show promise for the future!

Great insight.

I think it'll come down to identity and leadership. If we're struggling in the run game like last year with another pocket passer like Weigers, maybe we go to Glass for some added mobility. Wouldn't mind seeing a team like the 2014 Seahawks... dominant run-option + shut down defense.

But at the end of the day whichever QB can lead the team on the field during crunch time should be the one winning out.

(07-14-2018 05:06 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 11:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Am I your insider? Lol.

Glass is very talented. Very good arm and has good wheels.

I'm aware of the dangers of making prognosications from tape, even JUCO tape, but he really impressed me when I looked at his videos earlier this year.

I'm trying to remember but it seems I saw him throw 45 yard throws accurately in game action. Some times tapes lie if a 290 lbs. OT is blocking a 220 lbs DE who can't bench 225 lbs more than a few times. But at QB, the ability to complete a 45 - 50 yard rope (throw, not catch and run) is something which can be seen on tape.

Also was very impressed with Glass' ability to move, scramble and run.

I think some of us, including me, E'Tough, etc. are looking at very spirited competition between Wiegers, Glass and Grissom.

Wiegers lacks much playing time but has 4 years in B1G football.

Glass has all the tools. And Grissom has a very high ceiling. He just needs to go out and develop his talent and be as good as his raw abilities are.

This all will be the great mystery of August and September.

Grissom not going to be a factor this year, Jackson already ahead of him with his early arrival and Spring work. Jackson may have a real shot at being a legit MAC QB down the road.

Glass is the best QB on the roster, with the best arm by far. Only question, will he get a real opportunity. Very similar to Turner out of the backfield.

Stiebeling kinda floating in 2nd/3rd place.............Hutchinson 3rd/4th.

Wiegers seems to be the leader in the clubhouse right now because of his Big10 practice reps, maturity & ability to pick up the offense, and most importantly his early arrival and Spring ball reps.

Really see a 2 man race between Wiegers and Glass, ultimately not decided until the end of camp. Wouldn't mind seeing both with equal reps in the home opener to really see who operates best in a real live game situation.

May the best man win, and a couple of the new guys show promise for the future!

Great insight.

I think it'll come down to identity and leadership. If we're struggling in the run game like last year with another pocket passer like Weigers, maybe we go to Glass for some added mobility. Wouldn't mind seeing a team like the 2014 Seahawks... dominant run-option + shut down defense.

But at the end of the day whichever QB can lead the team on the field during crunch time should be the one winning out.

I still see Isaac as a potential number 1 the real question is the shear number of quarterbacks on the roster almost as many as the kickers except some are not on scholarship and we are still recruiting a qb for next year? I agree the battle should be interesting

Hopefully one of these guys can help us win the MAC and beat Purdue. That would be a dream season.

(07-15-2018 08:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I still see Isaac as a potential number 1 the real question is the shear number of quarterbacks on the roster almost as many as the kickers except some are not on scholarship and we are still recruiting a qb for next year? I agree the battle should be interesting

I'm curious about Isaac as a potential #1?

He finished up the season, but Wiegers (obviously) wasn't on the team, Glass may not have been eligible, Jackson was still at Cass Tech, etc.

Yes, the number of numbers (cute) is significant, but they tend to take care of itself.

I count six. I do not see the fmr walkon Skupin on the 2018 roster. Six is still a lot but they are spread out over a few classes.

Wiegers only has 2018 season. Glass has 2018 and '19.

Couple of other thoughts: Jackson is a QB, but will he play another position in 2018, waiting his turn?? I can see him as a back up WR, as we are still thin there. Or could he redshirt?

Statistically, it is unlikely that our three frosh (true and redshirt) will be around in four years. Someone who doesn't make #1 or 2, will probably transfer in time.

I'm a believer if a QB (or other positions too, but more so QB), isn't going to make 2-deep after spring ball FOLLOWING his soph season that he should explore transfer opportunities. A lot of FCS and GLIAC ball in the area as Reggie Bell discovered.

(07-16-2018 04:33 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(07-15-2018 08:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I still see Isaac as a potential number 1 the real question is the shear number of quarterbacks on the roster almost as many as the kickers except some are not on scholarship and we are still recruiting a qb for next year? I agree the battle should be interesting

I'm curious about Isaac as a potential #1?

He finished up the season, but Wiegers (obviously) wasn't on the team, Glass may not have been eligible, Jackson was still at Cass Tech, etc.

Yes, the number of numbers (cute) is significant, but they tend to take care of itself.

I count six. I do not see the fmr walkon Skupin on the 2018 roster. Six is still a lot but they are spread out over a few classes.

Wiegers only has 2018 season. Glass has 2018 and '19.

Couple of other thoughts: Jackson is a QB, but will he play another position in 2018, waiting his turn?? I can see him as a back up WR, as we are still thin there. Or could he redshirt?

Statistically, it is unlikely that our three frosh (true and redshirt) will be around in four years. Someone who doesn't make #1 or 2, will probably transfer in time.

I'm a believer if a QB (or other positions too, but more so QB), isn't going to make 2-deep after spring ball FOLLOWING his soph season that he should explore transfer opportunities. A lot of FCS and GLIAC ball in the area as Reggie Bell discovered.

Grissom more likely to change positions than Jackson. A lot of his interest from the bigger schools out of high school was as an 'athlete', not a QB.