(06-21-2018 02:53 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  If houston is flash in the pan over the last decade, are 90% of other G5 teams pure garbage? 67% win percentage over that timeframe ain't too shabby. Over the last 5 years, Boise has only averaged 1 more win per year. Considering UH has been playing (and often beating) multiple teams per year that finished ranked and Boise hasnt, thats not much difference. In the past 3 years, boise has the same number of losses and 1 more win playing 1 more game. But Boise has 0 wins vs teams finishing ranked while UH has 6. Both have finishe ranked once, but UH finished higher and int the top 10. If we are flash in the pan, we are keeping up with Boise


And again... tell me the last time Boise beat a team that finished ranked. UH has done it 6 times in the last 3 years. 3-0 vs the last 2 Heisman winners.

Not saying UH has a better recent track record than Boise, but to totally dismiss it as flash in the pan is ridiculous. Sounds like Boise fans have to bow up to look relevant because when Access Bowl time comes up, they aren't the ones coming up as the best G5 team. Boise has only been considered the best G5/nonAQ team once in the last 5 years. UCF has twice. UCF has finished top 10 twice in the last 5 years. UH once. Boise zero. As the 00s fade away, Boise needs to do something dramatic to show they are the premier non P5 team. Being ranked isnt going to cut it. After all, even Memphis has finished ranked as often as Boise the last 4 years.

Just so you know, beating a team that has a Heisman Winner, by itself, means absolutely nothing. Remember a Heisman winner a few years back who came from a 2-9-1 Iowa State team?

You and Cincy got finger-banged by the Big 12, then told you weren't good enough. Eventually, when Texas and OU, and probably Kansas leave it, you will get your invite, and then you will destroy what's left and dominate those leftovers.

(06-21-2018 06:35 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Just so you know, beating a team that has a Heisman Winner, by itself, means absolutely nothing. Remember a Heisman winner a few years back who came from a 2-9-1 Iowa State team?

No ISU player has ever won the Heisman and only the great Paul Hornung has won from a losing team.

Kind of makes me question your knowledge of college football

(06-21-2018 06:53 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  You and Cincy got finger-banged by the Big 12, then told you weren't good enough. Eventually, when Texas and OU, and probably Kansas leave it, you will get your invite, and then you will destroy what's left and dominate those leftovers.

Says the fan of a team who would kill to get into the AAC

(06-21-2018 12:58 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 11:40 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  There have been many G5 teams that have had outstanding flash in the pan seasons - Hawaii, Northern Illinois, Western Michigan, UCF, Houston.

None have maintained the success that Boise State has had over the last 15 years. Boise has earned the respect of a higher ranking. 68 is a generous ranking for a flash program such as UH

Houston? Flash in the pan? Which team has finished ranked most? Which team has finised top 10 more? Both have the same top 5. Who has a Heisman and Lombardi and Outland?

But I guess a La Tech fan has to live vicariosuly through another team since they've never finished ranked themselves

Maybe someday we can field a team that would be able to even stay within a 2-3 TD's of the mighty UH Cougars

(06-21-2018 07:31 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 12:58 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 11:40 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  There have been many G5 teams that have had outstanding flash in the pan seasons - Hawaii, Northern Illinois, Western Michigan, UCF, Houston.

None have maintained the success that Boise State has had over the last 15 years. Boise has earned the respect of a higher ranking. 68 is a generous ranking for a flash program such as UH

Houston? Flash in the pan? Which team has finished ranked most? Which team has finised top 10 more? Both have the same top 5. Who has a Heisman and Lombardi and Outland?

But I guess a La Tech fan has to live vicariosuly through another team since they've never finished ranked themselves

Maybe someday we can field a team that would be able to even stay within a 2-3 TD's of the mighty UH Cougars

One year you had a team that couldn't keep within 69 points of UH

Louisville # 66

This guy is going for a new approach for click bait. Let's pretend like we forget 1/3 of the G5 teams for a couple of weeks.

Louisville is in at 66, and C-USA is looking better day by day. Hope I didn't jinx anything, and here's your update.

MAC 74.59
AAC 76.92
C-USA 77.36
MWC 78.25
SBC 88.20

SEC 48.86
BIG-12 50.50
B1G 51.93
ACC 54.93
PAC-12 55.92

IND 61.20

6/22/2018

Includes Louisville at 66

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 9 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68)
CUSA - 8 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA, Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86)
MAC - 7 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan
MWC - 8 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78)
SBC - 7 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96)

ACC - 6 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66)
B1G - 5 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67)
BIG12 - 3 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73)
PAC12 - 5 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70),
SEC - 4 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69)

IND - 2 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 6/21.

AAC (3) – UCF, Memphis and Temple
C-USA (6) – FAU, Marshall, MTSU, UNT, UAB, and LA Tech
MAC (5)– Ohio , Buffalo, Miami, Toledo, and Northern Illinois
MWC (4) – Boise State, Wyoming, Fresno State, and San Diego State
SBC (3) – App State, Troy and Arkansas State

(06-22-2018 12:06 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Louisville is in at 66, and C-USA is looking better day by day. Hope I didn't jinx anything

I was certain only FAU would see the other side of 60, even now with just six spots remaining before the 50's, I'll be shocked if we see less than three CUSA members 65-60.

(06-22-2018 12:12 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 12:06 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Louisville is in at 66, and C-USA is looking better day by day. Hope I didn't jinx anything

I was certain only FAU would see the other side of 60, even now with just six spots remaining before the 50's, I'll be shocked if we see less than three CUSA members 65-60.

I thought so too. FAU somewhere in the 50's. The rest 60+

These are the final Sagarin Rankings from last year for CUSA as comparision. Next up should be UAB then Middle or UNT

47 - FAU
79 - Tech
85 - Marshall
100 - Middle
101 - North Texas

(06-21-2018 07:18 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 06:53 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  You and Cincy got finger-banged by the Big 12, then told you weren't good enough. Eventually, when Texas and OU, and probably Kansas leave it, you will get your invite, and then you will destroy what's left and dominate those leftovers.

Says the fan of a team who would kill to get into the AAC

Depends who's left, and you ain't all that. Houston, Cincy, and UConn are the attractive football and basketball opponents, respectively. That's it. Lose 2 or all 3, and the incentive is gone.

(06-22-2018 12:24 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 12:12 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 12:06 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Louisville is in at 66, and C-USA is looking better day by day. Hope I didn't jinx anything

I was certain only FAU would see the other side of 60, even now with just six spots remaining before the 50's, I'll be shocked if we see less than three CUSA members 65-60.

I thought so too. FAU somewhere in the 50's. The rest 60+

These are the final Sagarin Rankings from last year for CUSA as comparision. Next up should be UAB then Middle or UNT

47 - FAU
79 - Tech
85 - Marshall
100 - Middle
101 - North Texas

Seems he sees the top of the conference as pretty tight, I have to imagine five of the remaining six come in the next ten, maybe all six.

Unless he has FAU in the 40s, seems like he's predicting a tight race for the title even.

I had originally predicted FAU in the 30s. We'll see. At least we may have an idea what he values more, strength of schedule, last year's record, starters returning, or if he's just throwing darts at the dart board.

So -- I checked five other preseason rankings, and FAU ranked anywhere from 29 to 69 with an average ranking of 47.6 What I conclude from that is that it is anybody's guess where they belong in Uncle Matt's circus. Personally, I think he will bring them in somewhere between 28 an 37. He seems to hold C-USA in pretty high regard this year, and with six teams yet to be ranked, it seems to me that FAU, as just about eveyone's preseason conference favorite, will have to be ranked pretty high

Athlon 29
ESPN 69
Sports on Earth 44
SBNation 31
College Football News 65

Average 47.6

It's Saturday, and Maryland is in at 65. C-USA looking better every day. Here's the update.

MAC 74.38
AAC 76.80
C-USA 77.15
MWC 78.09
SBC 88.05

SEC 48.50
BIG-12 50.15
B1G 53.93
ACC 54.64
PAC-12 55.63

IND 60.90

6/23/2018

Includes Maryland at 65

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

65. Maryland
66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 9 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68)
CUSA - 8 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA, Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86)
MAC - 7 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan
MWC - 8 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78)
SBC - 7 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96)

ACC - 6 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66)
B1G - 6 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67), Maryland (65)
BIG12 - 3 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73)
PAC12 - 5 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70),
SEC - 4 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69)

IND - 2 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 6/23.

AAC (3) – UCF, Memphis and Temple
C-USA (6) – FAU, Marshall, MTSU, UNT, UAB, and LA Tech
MAC (5)– Ohio , Buffalo, Miami, Toledo, and Northern Illinois
MWC (4) – Boise State, Wyoming, Fresno State, and San Diego State
SBC (3) – App State, Troy and Arkansas State

I absolutely refuse to believe that the top of the MAC is that good. Uncle Matt had to have forgotten about them.

We have officially past the equator!

(06-23-2018 01:24 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I absolutely refuse to believe that the top of the MAC is that good. Uncle Matt had to have forgotten about them.

Agreed. I'm expecting Miami-Ohio, and Buffalo soon. Wyoming and Temple seem overdue too.

(06-22-2018 12:24 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 12:12 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2018 12:06 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Louisville is in at 66, and C-USA is looking better day by day. Hope I didn't jinx anything

I was certain only FAU would see the other side of 60, even now with just six spots remaining before the 50's, I'll be shocked if we see less than three CUSA members 65-60.

I thought so too. FAU somewhere in the 50's. The rest 60+

These are the final Sagarin Rankings from last year for CUSA as comparision. Next up should be UAB then Middle or UNT

47 - FAU
79 - Tech
85 - Marshall
100 - Middle
101 - North Texas

I think 2 of those might come in before we hit 60, and 3 more (including UAB) fall somewhere in the 50s. FAU is a mystery to me. I personally could see them making it to the 30's or late 20s.