Dennis Ross (FL-15) is retiring too. He announced that today.

Wow! I'm actually agreeing with a lot of what you all are posting (for different reasons I'm sure) but Sleaze ball Ryan looks to me a lot like lot like Hogg does to you guys.
I just want to ***** slap that shite eatin grin off his face.

He flip flopped on Trump nearly everyday during the run up. The absolute epitome of a sleazy politician.

Seems the Pubs are getting out while the getting's good. Don't want to be humiliated by a Dem next fall.

(04-11-2018 03:59 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Seems the Pubs are getting out while the getting's good. Don't want to be humiliated by a Dem next fall.

Or even worse, be stuck between a rabid Trump primary base that they can't p*ss off without losing to some Trumper in the primary and a fed up with Trump general electorate that won't put up with stalling on impeachment. And the Dems will make them vote on impeachment and sit though months of hearings into all of Trump's misdeeds.

The Dems will make them vote on DACA, vote on common sense gun control, vote on Trump's policies, vote on just about every thing that will put them in a bad spot. Meanwhile the Toddler-in-Chief will still be there, running his mouth like a moron and undercutting them at every turn. Or they'll get to run with Mike Pence, who has none of Trump's charisma but just about all of his baggage.

Sure, there are about 150 or so GOPers that can go full Trump and hang on to their seats in 2018 and 2020. But for the other 90 Congresspersons in the GOP, its not going to look pretty. That's why ~40 of them have already said "I'm done". And for the most part, the persons leaving the GOP are those that are holding the difficult seats. These are largely not seats that Trumpers can hold easily. Sure, some of these seats will stay GOP, but by 2021, Its looking like between 60 and 70 of them will flip. Combined with a likely greatly reduced gerrymandering advantage by the GOP, the next Dem Speaker might be hanging around for a while.

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I think all of these retirements are powerful evidence that the ''hail mary' of tax cuts didn't take with the electorate and that the GOP knows that they aren't going to take.

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Other than putting a safe GOP seat in play it doesn't break my heart.

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Cut the shite. You know Ryan has been lining his pockets the whole time he's been in office.

He's proven time and time again he is a spineless opportunist. He wouldn't know guts if you served it to him for dinner ( you being a chef and all)

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Yeah. And its gotten to be a real nasty job. Scalise got shot. People get verbally abused at town halls in organized attacks.

Who really wants that? The nastiness means we will get nasty low life slimeballs for the most part as politicians. You think its bad now, wait 10 years.

Hopefully he runs against Trump in the primaries.

You can't just step out of the way and let someone get the nomination working for it, got to make them earn it. Look at Hillary, everyone except for Bernie pretty much stayed away.

(04-11-2018 08:59 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

normal people have no desire to run for office at this point in the game.....

like all the others, he was groomed and hand selected....

even though I hate politics, I completely understand how today's system works.....

there are reasons that vanity yields the cash cow down the road....

Term limits. While they may not prevent the problems associated with career politicians enriching themselves at the public trough they could go a long way towards minimizing the degree to which the blood suckers will go if left unchecked.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/1...ice-515678

"...In the interview with a pair of other reporters — his first print interview since his surprise departure announcement hours earlier — Ryan said he viewed the Trump presidency as a “great opportunity” to “make a big difference for the country” — and he told Trump that shortly after his election.
Ryan said he will leave Washington having accomplished much of what he set out to do, while making headway on unfinished priorities. He rewrote the tax code for the first time in two decades, something he had been talking about since the late 1990s.
But he’ll leave with several dozen other House Republicans, many of whom have said they’re bone tired of today’s political climate. In fact, Ryan’s announcement will likely spark more retirements in the House GOP less than seven months before Election Day.
“Yeah, he makes it more interesting, no two ways about it. I can do with [fewer tweets], he knows I think that, I say it to him all the time,” Ryan said of Trump. “But I like the fact that we’re not letting grass grow under our feet.”
He added, “The issue of the moment — the tweet of the moment — pales in comparison to the big policy changes I believe are going to make a difference in people’s lives, and are going to move us in the right direction. … We’ve done so much stuff that I really think is going to have a lasting impact, and those things completely overshadow the frustration of the day or the moment.”"

(04-11-2018 07:09 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Cut the shite. You know Ryan has been lining his pockets the whole time he's been in office.

He's proven time and time again he is a spineless opportunist. He wouldn't know guts if you served it to him for dinner ( you being a chef and all)

Kinda like a "community organizer" who was suddenly a millionaire after leaving office......

You have to figure that being the Speaker has to be a thankless and grating job.

Trying to broker deals in today's political climate between the freedom caucus, the country club Republicans, and the milquetoast moderates has to be next to impossible. Throw in having to deal with the lefties. Then throw in a President who admittedly can be difficult and childish and I ask..... Who the hell would want that job, especially when you didn't want it in the first place?

Just some food for thought before crucifying the guy.

(04-12-2018 08:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:09 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Cut the shite. You know Ryan has been lining his pockets the whole time he's been in office.

He's proven time and time again he is a spineless opportunist. He wouldn't know guts if you served it to him for dinner ( you being a chef and all)

Kinda like a "community organizer" who was suddenly a millionaire after leaving office......

I don't disagree Obama has profited from his Presidency, I wouldn't even resent Trump from it, if his method of profiting was ethical.

As for Ryan, I'm just lumping him in to the general category

(04-12-2018 09:13 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 08:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:09 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Cut the shite. You know Ryan has been lining his pockets the whole time he's been in office.

He's proven time and time again he is a spineless opportunist. He wouldn't know guts if you served it to him for dinner ( you being a chef and all)

Kinda like a "community organizer" who was suddenly a millionaire after leaving office......

I don't disagree Obama has profited from his Presidency, I wouldn't even resent Trump from it, if his method of profiting was ethical.

As for Ryan, I'm just lumping him in to the general category

Ryan's family is already extremely wealthy.

https://www.ryancompanies.com/

(04-12-2018 08:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:09 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 05:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  He's a fairly normal person. Why should such a person want to run for office and hang out with the sleezeballs in DC.

And he's been there, DC, a loooooong asss time for such a relatively young man. Young kids, 1000 miles away from home and Wife, no doubt countless opportunities to make real coin to secure his and their future.

Pretty funny that the left feels the need to criticize or belittle those that actually choose to leave the sleaze-dripping halls of DC.

Citizen-legislators, please, not a bunch of people that get elected, re-elected at a rate of over 90%,. and treat the job like a hammock.

Good for him to have the guts to move on.

Cut the shite. You know Ryan has been lining his pockets the whole time he's been in office.

He's proven time and time again he is a spineless opportunist. He wouldn't know guts if you served it to him for dinner ( you being a chef and all)

Kinda like a "community organizer" who was suddenly a millionaire after leaving office......

lol. yeah, IMO, that's why most politicians want to get to DC in the first place, to get rich. They just spread the wool over folks eyes to get there.

Republicans are now apparently going to delay voting on making the tax cuts permanent because they are afraid of the "optics".

Lol...they are engaging in "voter suppression" on their own voters. It ought to be illegal.

You have to be real stupid to think you are going to win your midterm by backing away from your only accomplishment.

Nearly every Republican voter wants the tax cuts. But they also want spending cuts. But since Republicans won't cut spending the CBO is going to hit them for deficit increases...so they back away from tax cuts because of the "optics".

Now that really fires me up to go vote for them.




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and they wonder why no one likes them.

they get elected saying they will make tough decisions and then fold on the first hand

F him. Good riddance.

I actually almost feel bad for you guys. Backing this sorry ass bunch of thieves and chicken shites.

Must really suck to be a republican now.