(03-27-2018 09:55 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: Good lick with that. We can’t even get 60 votes in the senate for basic concepts like spending within our means or defending the border. Amending the constitution requires a two thirds vote of BOTH the House and the Senate. It then must be ratified by 75% of the states to become law. Zero chance of any of that happening. The last amendment process failed. Seems we couldn’t even agree on equal rights for women. The amendment passed the House and senate but wasn’t ratified by enough states and died. There is no way in hell the Southern states cote for this in the congress or ratify the amendment at the state level. It ain’t happening.
They can barely pass a flippin budget with 50 votes and our liberal friends are calling for the powers that be to use the official amendment process to get something done?????
(03-27-2018 09:55 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: Good lick with that. We can’t even get 60 votes in the senate for basic concepts like spending within our means or defending the border. Amending the constitution requires a two thirds vote of BOTH the House and the Senate. It then must be ratified by 75% of the states to become law. Zero chance of any of that happening. The last amendment process failed. Seems we couldn’t even agree on equal rights for women. The amendment passed the House and senate but wasn’t ratified by enough states and died. There is no way in hell the Southern states cote for this in the congress or ratify the amendment at the state level. It ain’t happening.
They can barely pass a flippin budget with 50 votes and our liberal friends are calling for the powers that be to use the official amendment process to get something done?????
Based on the emotional actions/reaction of a bunch of kids...
(03-27-2018 09:13 AM)Kaplony Wrote: Well we can put to rest the mindless "Nobody is coming for your guns" line used by one of our resident leftist talking point parrots now.
Little over reaction don't you think? One 97 year old expresses his opinion, and you conclude this?
No, not at all.
Everyone knows this is the endgame.
Most liberals won't openly admit it in fear of "tipping off" the right.
The right already knows it and will continue making that point known loud and clear.
(03-27-2018 09:13 AM)Kaplony Wrote: Well we can put to rest the mindless "Nobody is coming for your guns" line used by one of our resident leftist talking point parrots now.
Little over reaction don't you think? One 97 year old expresses his opinion, and you conclude this?
Not at all. One of your fellow walking leftist talking points is quite fond of that worn out lie, and even you have used it before. When a prominent socialist propaganda rag prints something like this it's a statement of intentions.
(03-27-2018 07:26 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: John Paul Stevens wrote the editorial. At least if you're going to quote it, give him credit. The guy is 97 years old and was a Supreme Court justice for decades. His lifetime is considerably longer than most people.
I'm all for gun regulations but I don't want the Second Amendment repealed because I'm afraid it would create another Civil War.
It would.
I agree with this.....
BUT, I also agree with Stevens that if you're going to do it, you do it through repealing the amendment... and NOT through judicial action which is how the left wants to do it.... because we all KNOW that judicial action would cause a similar result. At least with an amendment, you have the chance of 'returning it to the states'
Given that its Stevens making the comment, that shouldn't go un-noticed.
you must be ******* stupid if you dont see the difference between the two articles... and the title of the Fox News article is Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens proposes changes to Constitution, not an OpEd from the Fox News Writer... the libtards have no hope.
No, you must be ******* stupid if don't see that the title of the article linked in the OP was "John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment", not an OpEd from a New York Times Editor...
All I was doing was pointing out the absurdity of this thread title.
YOU have no hope.
you are acting like a child that needs his hand held. The topic is repeal the 2nd A and certainly the thread title reflects that. Stay on topic son, debate the content of the article, can you do that or are you going to deflect and reverse?
If you're not aware of my stance on the 2nd amendment by now, you haven't been paying attention.
We don't want your guns, but ban "assault rifles". Yes, violent crime didn't budge during the Clinton AWB and yes, it is down (51%) since then, but down does not mean non-existent, so ban them.
Uh.. okay. But aren't handguns used in the vast majority of gun crime? Why not ban those instead or as well, if you care so much about gun violence?
I would ask you the same question, would you call for a ban on handguns?
Um.. noooo, I'm not calling for a ban on any guns. Do you not see inconsistency?
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Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
The only ones being dishonest are the people who say "Nobody wants to take away your guns" when you have multiple Op-Eds in one of the principle leftist mouthpiece newspapers saying it, you have video proof of politicians saying it like was posted above and like this:
Now who's the one being dishonest?
As for the rest of your tripe I say good luck. Rather than let you totalitarian leftists erode my rights piece by piece I choose to stand and fight.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
No wonder you thought hillary would win.
They're going to "shame" us out of our Liberty and Rights? The whole Bill of Rights offends them and they dream of a world where the elites run the plebeians with fear and force. This is why parents need to watch the bull **** they are pouring into our kids heads in their government indoctrination centers.
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(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
Nah! nah! nah! It's just a few of us buying hundreds of guns. He has a good feeling about that.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
Nah! nah! nah! It's just a few of us buying hundreds of guns. He has a good feeling about that.
lol...there is some of that. I know a few folks that have a ridiculous number of guns. If the zombies come, I have already decided whose house Im heading for. Plenty of guns and ammo there....beer too----might starve to death though.
(03-27-2018 12:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: I thought I heard the other day that sales have actually tapered off? Do you have any recent stats?
Sales typically ebb during Republican led administrations and rise during Democrat led administrations. The truth is, the gun industry makes more money off lib politicians bc they’re constantly screaming to restrict the 2A.
I bet in a couple months if you look at gun sale stats, you’ll see the stats ebb once Trump won in 2016, then probably rise slightly thanks to these kid-led movements for more gun control.
(03-27-2018 11:52 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Why are you deliberately being dishonest? You know the paper is not calling for repeal, it's simply running an Op-Ed of one persons opinion. Has no bearing on anything done or not done in congress. You know repeal process is deliberately and rightfully onerous. It's not going to happen so relax.
Actually, I think long term there won't be any need for repeal. I think as the decades go by fewer and fewer people will buy or feel the need to have guns. Gun ownership will eventually go the way of cigarette smoking. Once peer pressure hits critical mass, people will start to cool to gun ownership. I have no evidence to back this up,but I suspect that is already happening. I suspect fewer and fewer people are buying more and more guns, stockpiling.
Nah! nah! nah! It's just a few of us buying hundreds of guns. He has a good feeling about that.
lol...there is some of that. I know a few folks that have a ridiculous number of guns. If the zombies come, I have already decided whose house Im heading for. Plenty of guns and ammo there....beer too----might starve to death though.
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