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(03-28-2018 02:11 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 01:46 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 12:56 PM)MrCincy Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 10:45 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Why in the world would UC want to bring Huggins back? We have the best basketball coach in America under 50 years old. I know a bunch of schools who would love to have his record and BB mind coaching their BB program. Stop living in the past.

I agree with not hiring Huggins back... though honestly, I'm certain that idea was just a joke and was not a serious suggestion.

However, I legitimately am curious as to your statement about knowing a bunch of schools that would love to have Mick. While I'm sure that plenty of low and mid-major programs would be thrilled to have Mick, I am not aware of a single P7 school that has tried to hire him away from us. His most notable suitor so far seems to be UNLV.

Why is that?

Do other schools feel like they would have no chance pulling him away from his alma mater? Unlikely.

Do other schools have no interest in his recruiting strategies, style of play, media personality, and postseason results? Possibly.

Or are we already paying him right at (or more) than he's worth, making him too costly for the return on investment? Probably, IMO.

Just my thoughts.

Yeah, coaches who make the NCAA tournament every year are a dime a dozen.

My guess would be either Cronin has made it clear that he is not interested. Like Marshall at WSU or Mark Few at Gonzaga, Cronin seems content to stay here.

Why would a tenured coach want to leave? He's got a job here in perpetuity...he doesn't have to do anything in the post-season and he's assured of a position for life. Cronin could make the tourney if UC finished 3rd in the AAC..that's easy enough to do....and I think that's all he wants to do.

Listen....the reason he can't pull in lottery picks is because he has no cred with the kids....he knows that.

Lottery picks play for coaches with cred. It's only the wildest stroke of luck that a lottery pick will play for a coach with no bonafides. When Cronin was recruiting for Pitino and Huggins, lottery picks were routine---not so much now.

Rule of thumb is you need at least 2 lottery picks to go deep in the post-season. UC hasn't had that in quite a while.

BTW...we have the best DI NCAA coach in America under 50 years old???? Really??? I beg to differ.

(03-29-2018 07:56 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:11 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 01:46 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 12:56 PM)MrCincy Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 10:45 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Why in the world would UC want to bring Huggins back? We have the best basketball coach in America under 50 years old. I know a bunch of schools who would love to have his record and BB mind coaching their BB program. Stop living in the past.

I agree with not hiring Huggins back... though honestly, I'm certain that idea was just a joke and was not a serious suggestion.

However, I legitimately am curious as to your statement about knowing a bunch of schools that would love to have Mick. While I'm sure that plenty of low and mid-major programs would be thrilled to have Mick, I am not aware of a single P7 school that has tried to hire him away from us. His most notable suitor so far seems to be UNLV.

Why is that?

Do other schools feel like they would have no chance pulling him away from his alma mater? Unlikely.

Do other schools have no interest in his recruiting strategies, style of play, media personality, and postseason results? Possibly.

Or are we already paying him right at (or more) than he's worth, making him too costly for the return on investment? Probably, IMO.

Just my thoughts.

Yeah, coaches who make the NCAA tournament every year are a dime a dozen.

My guess would be either Cronin has made it clear that he is not interested. Like Marshall at WSU or Mark Few at Gonzaga, Cronin seems content to stay here.

Why would a tenured coach want to leave? He's got a job here in perpetuity...he doesn't have to do anything in the post-season and he's assured of a position for life. Cronin could make the tourney if UC finished 3rd in the AAC..that's easy enough to do....and I think that's all he wants to do.

Listen....the reason he can't pull in lottery picks is because he has no cred with the kids....he knows that.

Lottery picks play for coaches with cred. It's only the wildest stroke of luck that a lottery pick will play for a coach with no bonafides. When Cronin was recruiting for Pitino and Huggins, lottery picks were routine---not so much now.

Rule of thumb is you need at least 2 lottery picks to go deep in the post-season. UC hasn't had that in quite a while.

BTW...we have the best DI NCAA coach in America under 50 years old???? Really??? I beg to differ.

Gonzaga was literally the only final four team with a lottery pick last year and he came off the bench.

i think the best we can hope for is for mick to really be serious about unlv. it will be a bittersweet parting. i'll probably end up regretting my impatience but so long as it doesn't affect me personally, i wholeheartedly endorse change. i say this though, he's succeeded my expectations. what i'm not saying is that this is his ceiling. if he still likes it here, i'm willing to put up with him. bearcat basketball is at least a constant in the local sports atmosphere. that was a great post lush

Keep it up guys This thread is pure gold

(03-29-2018 11:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 07:56 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:11 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 01:46 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 12:56 PM)MrCincy Wrote:  Why in the world would UC want to bring Huggins back? We have the best basketball coach in America under 50 years old. I know a bunch of schools who would love to have his record and BB mind coaching their BB program. Stop living in the past.

I agree with not hiring Huggins back... though honestly, I'm certain that idea was just a joke and was not a serious suggestion.

However, I legitimately am curious as to your statement about knowing a bunch of schools that would love to have Mick. While I'm sure that plenty of low and mid-major programs would be thrilled to have Mick, I am not aware of a single P7 school that has tried to hire him away from us. His most notable suitor so far seems to be UNLV.

Why is that?

Do other schools feel like they would have no chance pulling him away from his alma mater? Unlikely.

Do other schools have no interest in his recruiting strategies, style of play, media personality, and postseason results? Possibly.

Or are we already paying him right at (or more) than he's worth, making him too costly for the return on investment? Probably, IMO.

Just my thoughts.

Yeah, coaches who make the NCAA tournament every year are a dime a dozen.

My guess would be either Cronin has made it clear that he is not interested. Like Marshall at WSU or Mark Few at Gonzaga, Cronin seems content to stay here.

Why would a tenured coach want to leave? He's got a job here in perpetuity...he doesn't have to do anything in the post-season and he's assured of a position for life. Cronin could make the tourney if UC finished 3rd in the AAC..that's easy enough to do....and I think that's all he wants to do.

Listen....the reason he can't pull in lottery picks is because he has no cred with the kids....he knows that.

Lottery picks play for coaches with cred. It's only the wildest stroke of luck that a lottery pick will play for a coach with no bonafides. When Cronin was recruiting for Pitino and Huggins, lottery picks were routine---not so much now.

Rule of thumb is you need at least 2 lottery picks to go deep in the post-season. UC hasn't had that in quite a while.

BTW...we have the best DI NCAA coach in America under 50 years old???? Really??? I beg to differ.

Gonzaga was literally the only final four team with a lottery pick last year and he came off the bench.

I don't think history bears you out...over the past 15 years, the national champion has had at least 2 lottery picks 75% of the time...

The solution to UC's problems in March is NOT fewer lottery picks...

(03-29-2018 11:24 AM)Lush Wrote:  i think the best we can hope for is for mick to really be serious about unlv. it will be a bittersweet parting. i'll probably end up regretting my impatience but so long as it doesn't affect me personally, i wholeheartedly endorse change. i say this though, he's succeeded my expectations. what i'm not saying is that this is his ceiling. if he still likes it here, i'm willing to put up with him. bearcat basketball is at least a constant in the local sports atmosphere. that was a great post lush

I think Mick jilted UNLV. If he wanted to leave UC, he wouldn't be welcome there.

(03-29-2018 02:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 11:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 07:56 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:11 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 01:46 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  I agree with not hiring Huggins back... though honestly, I'm certain that idea was just a joke and was not a serious suggestion.

However, I legitimately am curious as to your statement about knowing a bunch of schools that would love to have Mick. While I'm sure that plenty of low and mid-major programs would be thrilled to have Mick, I am not aware of a single P7 school that has tried to hire him away from us. His most notable suitor so far seems to be UNLV.

Why is that?

Do other schools feel like they would have no chance pulling him away from his alma mater? Unlikely.

Do other schools have no interest in his recruiting strategies, style of play, media personality, and postseason results? Possibly.

Or are we already paying him right at (or more) than he's worth, making him too costly for the return on investment? Probably, IMO.

Just my thoughts.

Yeah, coaches who make the NCAA tournament every year are a dime a dozen.

My guess would be either Cronin has made it clear that he is not interested. Like Marshall at WSU or Mark Few at Gonzaga, Cronin seems content to stay here.

Why would a tenured coach want to leave? He's got a job here in perpetuity...he doesn't have to do anything in the post-season and he's assured of a position for life. Cronin could make the tourney if UC finished 3rd in the AAC..that's easy enough to do....and I think that's all he wants to do.

Listen....the reason he can't pull in lottery picks is because he has no cred with the kids....he knows that.

Lottery picks play for coaches with cred. It's only the wildest stroke of luck that a lottery pick will play for a coach with no bonafides. When Cronin was recruiting for Pitino and Huggins, lottery picks were routine---not so much now.

Rule of thumb is you need at least 2 lottery picks to go deep in the post-season. UC hasn't had that in quite a while.

BTW...we have the best DI NCAA coach in America under 50 years old???? Really??? I beg to differ.

Gonzaga was literally the only final four team with a lottery pick last year and he came off the bench.

I don't think history bears you out...over the past 15 years, the national champion has had at least 2 lottery picks 75% of the time...

The solution to UC's problems in March is NOT fewer lottery picks...

A quick perusal of NBA draft projections and the only possible NBA lottery pick in the final four I see is Mikal Bridges on Villinova and he's is on the edge. In fact, he seems to be the only sure first round pick on any of the final four teams this year. Something tells me the 75% is a made up number.

Bring back Ed! Cryogenically speaking...

Clearly the only way to settle this is for Huggins to take the X job

(03-29-2018 03:16 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Bring back Ed! Cryogenically speaking...

Helluva coach.

(03-29-2018 05:00 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 03:16 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Bring back Ed! Cryogenically speaking...

Helluva coach.

Hilariously, UC fans kind of ran him out. My dad experienced Oscar and two titles, but when he talked about those old teams, it was more often about Jucker blowing the third title by stalling in the second half.

(03-29-2018 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 05:00 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 03:16 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Bring back Ed! Cryogenically speaking...

Helluva coach.

Hilariously, UC fans kind of ran him out. My dad experienced Oscar and two titles, but when he talked about those old teams, it was more often about Jucker blowing the third title by stalling in the second half.

After winning back-to-back national titles (our only ones) fans wanted the coach gone because he failed to win a third in a row? Funny how fans are never satisfied. What's that Rolling Stones tune....

(03-29-2018 03:33 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  Clearly the only way to settle this is for Huggins to take the X job

It's to get a young coach from a mid-major that wasn't chosen by Nancy.

(03-29-2018 03:02 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 02:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 11:05 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 07:56 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:11 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Yeah, coaches who make the NCAA tournament every year are a dime a dozen.

My guess would be either Cronin has made it clear that he is not interested. Like Marshall at WSU or Mark Few at Gonzaga, Cronin seems content to stay here.

Why would a tenured coach want to leave? He's got a job here in perpetuity...he doesn't have to do anything in the post-season and he's assured of a position for life. Cronin could make the tourney if UC finished 3rd in the AAC..that's easy enough to do....and I think that's all he wants to do.

Listen....the reason he can't pull in lottery picks is because he has no cred with the kids....he knows that.

Lottery picks play for coaches with cred. It's only the wildest stroke of luck that a lottery pick will play for a coach with no bonafides. When Cronin was recruiting for Pitino and Huggins, lottery picks were routine---not so much now.

Rule of thumb is you need at least 2 lottery picks to go deep in the post-season. UC hasn't had that in quite a while.

BTW...we have the best DI NCAA coach in America under 50 years old???? Really??? I beg to differ.

Gonzaga was literally the only final four team with a lottery pick last year and he came off the bench.

I don't think history bears you out...over the past 15 years, the national champion has had at least 2 lottery picks 75% of the time...

The solution to UC's problems in March is NOT fewer lottery picks...

A quick perusal of NBA draft projections and the only possible NBA lottery pick in the final four I see is Mikal Bridges on Villinova and he's is on the edge. In fact, he seems to be the only sure first round pick on any of the final four teams this year. Something tells me the 75% is a made up number.

Interesting article:

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/...l-champion

(03-29-2018 05:37 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 05:00 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-29-2018 03:16 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Bring back Ed! Cryogenically speaking...

Helluva coach.

Hilariously, UC fans kind of ran him out. My dad experienced Oscar and two titles, but when he talked about those old teams, it was more often about Jucker blowing the third title by stalling in the second half.

If only Banter existed back then

(03-19-2018 10:45 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Please stop this Bring Huggins back BS. We have a good coach.

(04-01-2018 11:32 AM)MrCincy Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 10:45 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Please stop this Bring Huggins back BS. We have a good coach.

Provide the evidence.

I can tell you where Mick gets the faux bravado. I was in HS with Hep. He was 2 years ahead. Plane Geometry was a Sophomore course for most on the college track. Hep took it with my class as a Senior and trust me it was a tough class for him. Yes of course I was an A student in the class.

Hep was an arrogant typical coddled jock who had an overblown opinion of himself, a lot like Mickey.

(04-01-2018 11:45 AM)doss2 Wrote:  I can tell you where Mick gets the faux bravado. I was in HS with Hep. He was 2 years ahead. Plane Geometry was a Sophomore course for most on the college track. Hep took it with my class as a Senior and trust me it was a tough class for him. Yes of course I was an A student in the class.

Hep was an arrogant typical coddled jock who had an overblown opinion of himself, a lot like Mickey.

Agreed, hep needs to b more humble like u and me

(04-01-2018 11:34 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(04-01-2018 11:32 AM)MrCincy Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 10:45 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Please stop this Bring Huggins back BS. We have a good coach.

Provide the evidence.

Evidence???

Mick thinks that "Not Duane" is an X troll.

Drop the mic.