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Remember what happened last time when Huggins opened a new arena...

Funny that Huggs second round jinx appeared to clear up once he left Cincy. someone put a curse on UC. Maybe the new arena should be exorcised by a priest and a goat sacrificed outside. Anything to break the curse.

Should have never got rid of him in the first place. It seems like just yesterday people predicted the last 12 years on this board. They were called Bob lovers, ironically enough by the same people who are taking their ball and going home since UC lost a tourney game.

That world class recruiting is going to kick in any day right? Couldn't have been recruiting for Huggins and Pitino that brought the talent in... Right?

Would love to hear one of those blowhards admit they were wrong just once, but as of 8:30 last night, most of them probably aren't on the board anymore. Babies.

we had oj, beasley and walker locked up. plus that stud white boy from Carolina

I don't think he'd come back for any price, but there are always talented young people looking to move up.

(03-19-2018 11:09 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I don't think he'd come back for any price, but there are always talented young people looking to move up.

We could get him back...if...

1. We burn Nancy in effigy prior to his 1st game return
2. We triple his salary at WVU
3. We demand that the sportwriters and alumni that supported his ouster publicy apologize...and admit that they were WRONG....

Then...maybe he'd come back....

Won't happen though...if it did, it would be EPIC.

I was told by a faculty member that there was a lot more going on behind the scenes with Huggins. He should stay gone.

(03-19-2018 11:23 AM)AeroCat Wrote:  I was told by a faculty member that there was a lot more going on behind the scenes with Huggins. He should stay gone.

Need specifics....

One thing I've NEVER heard about Bob is that he was dirty.

He did like beer.

You guys get he was joking and there's a 0.00% chance he'd leave WVU to come back to a school that fired him right? I would imagine age and health would play a factor in starting over again as well.

If everyone hates Mick's offense not sure why they'd want Frank Martin. Even his final four team finished nearly 60 spots below that years Cincinnati team in adjusted offense. Martin is very reliant on defense. This year Martin's team finished 158 in adjusted offense. South Carolina made a great run last year, because their best dude go hot and made plays and they played great defense.

(03-19-2018 11:04 AM)DelhiBearcat Wrote:  Should have never got rid of him in the first place. It seems like just yesterday people predicted the last 12 years on this board. They were called Bob lovers, ironically enough by the same people who are taking their ball and going home since UC lost a tourney game.

That world class recruiting is going to kick in any day right? Couldn't have been recruiting for Huggins and Pitino that brought the talent in... Right?

Would love to hear one of those blowhards admit they were wrong just once, but as of 8:30 last night, most of them probably aren't on the board anymore. Babies.

Sure, it would have been great to retain Bob Huggins. But we would be remiss if we didn't note the reasons for his dismissal. Bob has no one to blame but himself that he is no longer here in Cincinnati. Consider UC one of the few schools with the sack to dismiss its star head coach because of behavior that is detrimental to the image of our university. That's without considering that he failed to advance past the Round of 32 in the last stretch of his career here. There is also no guarantee that he wouldn't have moved onto WVU (his alma mater) eventually anyway.

It would be wrong to compare Mick to Bob, even though it happens frequently on this board. Bob forced himself out of his position at UC, and the university as a whole is better off for it. Mick might not be what we want him to be at this point, but I don't think Bob was what people so fondly like to attribute to him in hindsight either.

I would normally work out after a bad loss.. Wanted to go this morning but didn't sleep well last night

Huggins is a HOF coach. Cronin's a mid major coach. For God's sake UNLV thought they could take him. We're in no way, shape, or form better for Huggins removal. Granted at this point he's old and getting near the end of his coaching career, but we'd be in a completely different situation had he never left. It's pointless to talk about it because it's all ancient history now, but it doesn't make it any less true.

And I doubt he ever would have taken the WVU job considering he had already turned them down once while at UC.

People act like Huggins was the greatest coach ever its not like he was John Wooden or Dean Smith. Here is a comparison to Mick

UC record
Huggins Mick
Seasons 16 12
Wins 399 337
Loses 127 164
Ncaa Tournaments 14 8

Huggins had elite 8 and 1 final 4
Mick has had 1 sweet 16

Huggins had a few coach of the year
Mick has 1

Huggins won multiply conference championships (plus conference tournaments)
Mick won 2 conference championships (1 tournament)

In Huggins time here he had 1 DUI (2004)an assistant coach and recruit arrested in 2005
multiply players in trouble with the law
only graduated 30% of players and got the program put on probation for lack of institutional control

As far as I could find the only thing to happen with Micks team is the fight with X

Huggins was a great coach here but really not much difference overall between him and Mick at UC yes Huggins had higher rank players. Will Mick get UC to a final 4 honestly I'm not sure but some of you just don't like him and have blinders on when thinking about the good old days Go Bearcats

This should have been Micks year.. It's ok the thing is the peak years are a further between here than at one of the diaper dandy schools.

Lol. Huggins had 3 Elite 8s at UC. Their track records aren't even close.

(03-19-2018 11:50 AM)DelhiBearcat Wrote:  Huggins is a HOF coach. Cronin's a mid major coach. For God's sake UNLV thought they could take him. We're in no way, shape, or form better for Huggins removal. Granted at this point he's old and getting near the end of his coaching career, but we'd be in a completely different situation had he never left. It's pointless to talk about it because it's all ancient history now, but it doesn't make it any less true.

And I doubt he ever would have taken the WVU job considering he had already turned them down once while at UC.

Yet, here we are, talking about it. It's still true, and the reasons that Bob isn't here anymore are still true. It's not an either-or. It's simply that Bob couldn't run a respectable program and couldn't conduct his behavior in a manner conducive to the university's code of ethics. He left, and we replaced him with a program builder. Maybe we would have weathered our introduction into the Big East a bit more gracefully. Maybe we would have ridden a stable trajectory into a new era of Bearcat basketball. We'll never know - once again - because of Bob Huggins. No one else.

I'm not sure if you're a UC grad or not, but I'm immensely proud of the university for many, many more reasons than National Championships and bowl games. I spent many of my formative years on one of the best and most unique college campuses in the world, I earned my degree from the school of Arts and Sciences, and enjoy being connected to an institution that is trending upward academically, athletically, and in terms of national exposure. My degree means something to me, and I have great appreciation for the fact that the university continues to advance.

So, no, I'm not in favor of going back to the Huggins days where UC made headlines whenever one of its "student" athletes showed up to class with a gun or was charged with assaulting someone. We are not UofL, we are not Kansas, we are not North Carolina. We're effing UC, and that means something to me. I'll take a Gary Clark, Kyle Washington, Justin Jackson, or Sean Kilpatrick over a team full of 5* one-and-dones.

This is so dumb.

She's moved on. She's married to another guy. What are you still talking about this for? It's pathetic.

I don't want Huggins back, yes he had great success from 92 to 96 however he had 6 second round exits as a 1,2,3, and 4 seed from 97 to 04. His drinking, womanizing, and having our program put on probation did damage to our University's image nationally.

(03-19-2018 11:32 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  If everyone hates Mick's offense not sure why they'd want Frank Martin. Even his final four team finished nearly 60 spots below that years Cincinnati team in adjusted offense. Martin is very reliant on defense. This year Martin's team finished 158 in adjusted offense. South Carolina made a great run last year, because their best dude go hot and made plays and they played great defense.

One of the problems with these stats is that I would presume UC's offensive rating probably went up (or stayed about the same) after the Nevada game.

It doesn't change the fact the Cats go into offensive purgatory during games more often than other teams I watch (just from watching, no stats to back it up). They didn't even score a bucket last night the final 6:00 or thereabouts. I can recall a few games this year (every year actually) where this happened.

I'm looking for more consistency. It doesn't matter if your offense plays at a Top 20 offense for 30 minutes of the game, then a No. 250 offense for the last 10 minutes. I think we need to shrink the disparity between our offensive highs and lows from game to game as well as within a game. From my viewing, it's especially evident when we play better competition.

Individual offensive improvement for players in terms of shooting and developing a move or two (to get their shot off) is going to come mostly from summer work. Mick seems to like a lot of NBA type one-on-one play whether posting up or with Evans and Cumberland on the perimeter.

That's a tough task for college guys. Only 2 or 3 guys on an NBA team can consistently score or break down a defense in a one-on-one match up. Add in the switching and double teaming the defense can do.

In any event, I am not into coaching changes unless Cronin decides to take another gig. We do a pretty good job at beating teams we should, we need to take that next step up.

In terms of Coach Martin... as far as recruiting against the level of league competition at a K-State or S Carolina... I would take my chance recruiting at UC in the AAC over the other two scenarios. He has had two very tough gigs.