Reservation in hell for one...BOOM!

Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Yeah, I don't think a 7-year old blog (he was 16 when written) where he gives some non-threatening opinions on some kitchen table issues qualifies as insight into his motive. My guess is he had a sick admiration for the unabomber or the zodiac killer and his motive was simple as that.

(03-21-2018 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Interested in how you reach the conclusion related to the bold above. Also, did't he also kill a couple of white guys? I thought the race baiting with this was over.

(03-21-2018 11:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Interested in how you reach the conclusion related to the bold above. Also, did't he also kill a couple of white guys? I thought the race baiting with this was over.

Its an opinion. But many people homeschool their kids in many cases precisely so the parents can attempt to steer the kids away from supporting Gay rights and abortion.

The point of my discourse on the African American issue was to show that, if anything, his bombings didn't seem to follow the groups he disparaged in the blog posts.

We will see what else comes out. Maybe nothing will.

(03-21-2018 11:44 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Interested in how you reach the conclusion related to the bold above. Also, did't he also kill a couple of white guys? I thought the race baiting with this was over.

Its an opinion. [b][b]But many people homeschool their kids in many cases precisely so the parents can attempt to steer the kids away from supporting Gay rights and abortion. [/b][/b]

The point of my discourse on the African American issue was to show that, if anything, his bombings didn't seem to follow the groups he disparaged in the blog posts.

We will see what else comes out. Maybe nothing will.

Please provide a link to support the bolded above. I know several homeschoolers and none of them do it for those reasons.

(03-21-2018 11:44 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Interested in how you reach the conclusion related to the bold above. Also, did't he also kill a couple of white guys? I thought the race baiting with this was over.

Its an opinion. But many people homeschool their kids in many cases precisely so the parents can attempt to steer the kids away from supporting Gay rights and abortion.

The point of my discourse on the African American issue was to show that, if anything, his bombings didn't seem to follow the groups he disparaged in the blog posts.

We will see what else comes out. Maybe nothing will.

Is it to steer them away or protect them from the false claims that degenerate behavior is normal?

(03-21-2018 11:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:29 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's a window into the views of the reported bomber a few years back. No idea if it motivated him. He was homeschooled and presumably wrote this blog in his first months of attending school with persons outside his worldview. For someone with his background, these views aren't really that surprising. For the record, it appears that if, anything, the bombings appeared to target African Americans more so than LGBT persons or Abortion supporters. Heck, it could turn out that he ended up being some sort of radical liberal, although that doesn't seem too likely at this point.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/...770170.php

Just a snippet on this one. I'm sure we shall figure out more as time goes on, but we will probably never get to his real motivation. Id love to find out how he learned to build bombs and where he go the materials at this point.

Interested in how you reach the conclusion related to the bold above. Also, did't he also kill a couple of white guys? I thought the race baiting with this was over.

Here's the deal. If you grow up in and around Austin or live there for a long time, you know neighborhoods. The first 3 were left on doorsteps in a specific area of Austin - East - 80% minority neighborhoods. Individuals picked them up and died.
To say one could not draw conclusions to it being a hate crime, of some sort, after those doesn't make you myopic. Again, they were left on doorsteps.
In fact, when the first man died (a TXST alum FWIW) they decided it was a suicide (because people routinely mail packages to themselves to blow themselves up) and the family buried their father, son, brother, with that conclusion by APD. It wasn't until the teen died, his mother and the Hispanic woman injured, that they started to connect the dots.
That's when this guy moved on to a more upwardly mobile, mixed development in SW Austin........without a specific target. It could have been kids for crap's sake. To think Austin Country was lily white is a falsehood.
Now, we have no idea where the package at the FedEx facility, nor the one at ABIA were headed. That may make the whole thing circular or even more random but we're (the public) not going to know.
So don't "ride" anyone that may have had those initial thoughts of hate crime.

BREAKING Bomb squad in Los Angeles dealing with unexpected and unidentified package sent to LA address from FedEx depot in Austin, Texas — LAPD

I saw a headline this morning that asked if he was a troubled person or terrorist. MHO, he was both.

(03-21-2018 11:11 PM)CatMom Wrote:  BREAKING Bomb squad in Los Angeles dealing with unexpected and unidentified package sent to LA address from FedEx depot in Austin, Texas — LAPD

False alarm.

(03-22-2018 10:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 11:11 PM)CatMom Wrote:  BREAKING Bomb squad in Los Angeles dealing with unexpected and unidentified package sent to LA address from FedEx depot in Austin, Texas — LAPD

False alarm.

Glad to hear it

(03-22-2018 07:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I saw a headline this morning that asked if he was a troubled person or terrorist. MHO, he was both.

Generally speaking, yes.

Legally depends on his motivation.

(03-21-2018 06:17 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm sure we'll find out plenty of reasons why it happened today (some accurate, some not so accurate). The one thing I wonder about this morning is why was he in a hotel in Round Rock? He was definitely staying at the hotel although I haven't read yet how long he had been there. I still have to believe he was from the Austin area. The whole thing is even stranger if he has no connection to Austin whatsoever.

I think I've stayed at that hotel three times... once without incident, once there seemed to be drug paraphernalia in the hallways and the police were there to break up a fight in the morning, and the third time I was pissed that I'd forgotten what a shithole it was. I don't think any of those visits lasted a second night. We stayed in the area over the weekend, but I remembered not to book Red Roof Inn this time...

As far as terrorism, that generally is defined as having a political motive... this time, it appears there is none.

I wonder if he took inspiration from the recent series on the unabomber...

It seems to me that we are doing a wonderful job of inspiring our society's bottom feeders to go out in spectacular fashion.

Incidentally...

Quote:ROUND ROCK, Texas, March 21, 2018/PRNewswire/ -- Red Roof has been actively speaking and working with all law enforcement authorities on this case. Based on the information provided by law enforcement, the suspect had no association with the Red Roof property. He was not a guest at the Red Roof Inn Austin — Round Rock, nor were he or his vehicle on the property. It is business as usual at the Round Rock property.

Fair enough. That property is still a shithole, though...

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(03-22-2018 12:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I saw a headline this morning that asked if he was a troubled person or terrorist. MHO, he was both.

Generally speaking, yes.

Legally depends on his motivation.

Domestic Terrorism is defined differently but I assume they're using the always convenient government definition here.

(03-23-2018 01:47 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 12:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I saw a headline this morning that asked if he was a troubled person or terrorist. MHO, he was both.

Generally speaking, yes.

Legally depends on his motivation.

Domestic Terrorism is defined differently but I assume they're using the always convenient government definition here.

Insanity and terrorism are first cousins

(03-23-2018 01:47 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 12:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-22-2018 07:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I saw a headline this morning that asked if he was a troubled person or terrorist. MHO, he was both.

Generally speaking, yes.

Legally depends on his motivation.

Domestic Terrorism is defined differently but I assume they're using the always convenient government definition here.

The terrorism statutes are practically identical for international or domestic terrorism. The only difference is where the act occurs.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331

Quote:

18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions


(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
© occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;

Quote:(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
© occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

I am unsure why there is even a conversation about whether this is domestic terrorism.

Of course it is.

(03-23-2018 09:50 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I am unsure why there is even a conversation about whether this is domestic terrorism.
Of course it is.

Because the word itself isn't tremendously meaningful. Also it implies that you know the intent of the perpetrator.