(02-26-2018 02:32 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 01:56 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 12:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  AP Poll
#10 Cincy
#11 WSU
#25 Houston

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

Well I'll be danged. I thought the Memphis loss would bounce us from the rankings in favor of a less deserving "p5" team. Maybe the Coogs starting to get some rispek!

Coogs need to go into Dallas on wed with a big chip on their shoulder. It's crunch time and they need to seal the deal with the NCAA tourney.

After treating ECU like the Washington Generals, the Cougars really made a statement.

(02-26-2018 03:20 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:03 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  1 team ranked, barely top 20.

And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


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I would agree, if not for one going to the gallows soon, another two being average basketball schools, one now being an average football school (albeit with a nice corporation in their back pockets and a Bol Bol sized infraction about to be examined), and another being average at both.

I'm obviously not completely believing what I'm saying in a grander sense (historical relevance, prestige, etc), but this year I don't think it would be hard to argue that the AAC is a better conference than the PAC 12

UCLA is the only one walking around with more clout than AAC schools in basketball.


Arizona-Uconn
Standord-Cincy
USC-Memphis
Oregon-Temple
Washington-WSU
Utah-Tulsa
Arizona St-SMU

USC in football

Oregon-UCF
Stanford-Navy
Washington-Houston
UCLA-SMU


We actually match up incredibly well with them.

(02-26-2018 03:23 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:20 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


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I would agree, if not for one going to the gallows soon, another two being average basketball schools, one now being an average football school (albeit with a nice corporation in their back pockets and a Bol Bol sized infraction about to be examined), and another being average at both.

I'm obviously not completely believing what I'm saying in a grander sense (historical relevance, prestige, etc), but this year I don't think it would be hard to argue that the AAC is a better conference than the PAC 12

The only thing keeping the numbers (RPI, KP) from reflecting that (in basketball) is ECU and USF....

Which can be corrected through a scheduling requirement. If either had even a top 200 schedule we would be a top 3 or 4. Everyone else is top 100 right now.

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:03 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 01:54 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  Wow. No PAC 12 in top 7

1 team ranked, barely top 20.

And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


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How many of them are in trouble for this shoe money cheating business?

(02-26-2018 12:09 PM)AndShock Wrote:  Fun fact of the day:

3 years ago on Senior Day #11 WSU faced #10 Northern Iowa for the MVC title with College Gameday visiting Koch Arena

Deja vu

And that game drew great TV ratings as 1.14 million people watched that game on ESPN.

Hopefully this years season finale with Cincy will blow away that TV number.

(02-26-2018 06:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:03 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  1 team ranked, barely top 20.

And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

How many of them are in trouble for this shoe money cheating business?

One would think Oregon, the home of both Nike and Adidas...

(02-26-2018 06:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 06:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

How many of them are in trouble for this shoe money cheating business?

One would think Oregon, the home of both Nike and Adidas...

USC had an assistant arrested and Arizona will probably fire their coach.

(02-26-2018 07:03 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 06:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 06:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

How many of them are in trouble for this shoe money cheating business?

One would think Oregon, the home of both Nike and Adidas...

USC had an assistant arrested and Arizona will probably fire their coach.

I'm sure they'll blame it on "East Coast Bias."

(02-26-2018 03:23 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:20 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  And that particular team is in a ginormous hole right now.

Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

I would agree, if not for one going to the gallows soon, another two being average basketball schools, one now being an average football school (albeit with a nice corporation in their back pockets and a Bol Bol sized infraction about to be examined), and another being average at both.

I'm obviously not completely believing what I'm saying in a grander sense (historical relevance, prestige, etc), but this year I don't think it would be hard to argue that the AAC is a better conference than the PAC 12

The only thing keeping the numbers (RPI, KP) from reflecting that (in basketball) is ECU and USF....

Tulane too.

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:23 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:20 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

I would agree, if not for one going to the gallows soon, another two being average basketball schools, one now being an average football school (albeit with a nice corporation in their back pockets and a Bol Bol sized infraction about to be examined), and another being average at both.

I'm obviously not completely believing what I'm saying in a grander sense (historical relevance, prestige, etc), but this year I don't think it would be hard to argue that the AAC is a better conference than the PAC 12

The only thing keeping the numbers (RPI, KP) from reflecting that (in basketball) is ECU and USF....

Tulane too.

Tulane is kind of neutral. They'll be top 150. ECU and USF get to that level and we'll be right there

Tulane played four games against ECU and USF and split them (lost to both at home somehow). If ECU and USF were 150, Tulane would be about 125 or so I bet. That just shows you the impact. They have to do a better job of scheduling and winning in the non con. The games are out there. Instead of Campbell or North Florida, schedule a .500ish MAC school and beat them. Play George Mason instead of NC A&T.

This year was the first year I thought Tulane really scheduled smarter in non conference, and it helped. We played: 2 ACC, 1 A-10, 1 MWC, 1 MAC, 2 Sun Belt, 2 Southland, 2 SWAC, and 1 NEC. So that is 5 easy wins, but we also went 4-1 against the SBC, MWC, A-10, and MAC. That one loss in that group was to #139 GA State on the road... not good, but not a back breaker. As a result, we have only won 5 games in the league, but are still rated higher than Iowa, Northwestern, Georgetown, Georgia Tech, Illinois, etc. so not only are we not anchoring the the AAC, we wouldn’t be the bottom team in pretty much any of the P5 leagues. And much of that is scheduling a little smarter (the two top 50 wins help a little too).

(02-26-2018 08:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:23 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 03:20 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:39 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-26-2018 02:34 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Honestly, the Pac 12 is a worse conference all-around than the AAC IMO. Football got mollywopped in Bowls and were clearly outclasses. Basketball they are a mid-major conference and will be even worse once their premiere basketball school gets the San Francisco treatment. Ratings they aren't much better than us.

Don't get confused by current rankings. The Pac12 has cachet that vastly supersedes the AAC and the Pee. Just say the member schools out loud right now.

U C L A
A R I Z O N A
S T A N F O R D
U S C
O R E G O N

They won't be down for long.


T


...

I would agree, if not for one going to the gallows soon, another two being average basketball schools, one now being an average football school (albeit with a nice corporation in their back pockets and a Bol Bol sized infraction about to be examined), and another being average at both.

I'm obviously not completely believing what I'm saying in a grander sense (historical relevance, prestige, etc), but this year I don't think it would be hard to argue that the AAC is a better conference than the PAC 12

The only thing keeping the numbers (RPI, KP) from reflecting that (in basketball) is ECU and USF....

Tulane too.

Tulane is fine. It's literally ECU and USF dragging down the averages

RPI
UC - 11
WSU - 13
UH - 20
Temple - 40
UCF - 69
Tulsa - 76
Memphis - 96
SMU - 99
UConn - 117
Tulane - 153
ECU - 276
USF - 297

Average = 106
Without ECU/USF = 69 (not accounting for the fact that playing ECU and USF lowers the others RPI)

KP
UC = 6
WSU =17
UH = 22
SMU = 74
Temple = 82
UCF = 102
Tulsa = 109
Memphis = 142
Tulane = 163
UConn = 179
ECU = 303
USF = 322

Average = 126
Average Without = 89

Speaking of Tulane, why did the long-haired Texas guy transfer? He's a stud. Was it just because he wanted an "upgrade"?

(02-26-2018 01:36 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The New Big East is dropping like a rock.

Top heavy with a lot of meh underneath. Just as it’s always been.

This

(02-26-2018 01:36 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  The New Big East is dropping like a rock.

Top heavy with a lot of meh underneath. Just as it’s always been.

a whole lotta

(02-27-2018 12:57 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  Tulane played four games against ECU and USF and split them (lost to both at home somehow). If ECU and USF were 150, Tulane would be about 125 or so I bet. That just shows you the impact. They have to do a better job of scheduling and winning in the non con. The games are out there. Instead of Campbell or North Florida, schedule a .500ish MAC school and beat them. Play George Mason instead of NC A&T.

Tulane giving out scheduling advice. . . never thought id see the day. Everyone knows and agrees ECU should schedule better so you're just reiterating what literally everyone on this board has been saying for years

(02-27-2018 01:06 PM)2bumsabroad Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 12:57 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  Tulane played four games against ECU and USF and split them (lost to both at home somehow). If ECU and USF were 150, Tulane would be about 125 or so I bet. That just shows you the impact. They have to do a better job of scheduling and winning in the non con. The games are out there. Instead of Campbell or North Florida, schedule a .500ish MAC school and beat them. Play George Mason instead of NC A&T.

Tulane giving out scheduling advice. . . never thought id see the day. Everyone knows and agrees ECU should schedule better so you're just reiterating what literally everyone on this board has been saying for years

temple is still in the tourney hunt because of there tough scheduling. We would be to if we were in the same position at temple.

With so many losses today, Houston should end up ranked low 20s for both polls if they win tomorrow.