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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 12:34 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:31 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Regarding PENNY, should he take the job he understands failure is a possibility
Anything one does in life there is a possibility u may fail, if u don't try you won't fail, but u will never know.
All successful people fail sometime in life.
I've probably been successful 80 percent of the time, if I was a baseball player I'd be batting 800.
PENNY is better than what's going on now, give the Dude a chance

"I think the big thing is don't be afraid to fail," Foles said. "I think in our society today, Instagram, Twitter, it's a highlight reel. It's all the good things. And then when you look at it, when you think like, wow, when you have a rough day, 'My life's not as good as that,' (you think) you're failing.

"Failure is a part of life. It's a part of building character and growing. Without failure, who would you be? I wouldn't be up here if I hadn't fallen thousands of times. Made mistakes.

"We all are human, we all have weaknesses, and I think throughout this, (it's been important) to be able to share that and be transparent. I know when I listen to people speak and they share their weaknesses, I'm listening. Because (it) resonates.

"So I'm not perfect. I'm not Superman. I might be in the NFL, I might have just won a Super Bowl, but, hey, we still have daily struggles, I still have daily struggles. And that's where my faith comes in, that's where my family comes in.

"I think when you look at a struggle in your life, just know that's just an opportunity for your character to grow. And that's just been the message. Simple. If something's going on in your life and you're struggling? Embrace it. Because you're growing."

Perspective. I'm a Foles fan, now.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 01:11 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:01 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:57 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:53 AM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:01 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  We can only hope that Martin has not graduated before the fall of 2018. If he can graduate before then i can see him leaving to move to a competitive team. If he leaves then we will be below .500 for the season.

If he doesn’t give a s*** and plays like he did tonight what difference does it make?

Carrying the whole city on your back has got to be tiring.

They didn't let him do his normal thing either.

He had a player just as athletic on him but who was taller and had longer arms and who was fundamentally strong defensively. And they were able to give help without actually completely leaving their own guy.
Yep.

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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 12:56 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:34 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:31 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Regarding PENNY, should he take the job he understands failure is a possibility
Anything one does in life there is a possibility u may fail, if u don't try you won't fail, but u will never know.
All successful people fail sometime in life.
I've probably been successful 80 percent of the time, if I was a baseball player I'd be batting 800.
PENNY is better than what's going on now, give the Dude a chance

"I think the big thing is don't be afraid to fail," Foles said. "I think in our society today, Instagram, Twitter, it's a highlight reel. It's all the good things. And then when you look at it, when you think like, wow, when you have a rough day, 'My life's not as good as that,' (you think) you're failing.

"Failure is a part of life. It's a part of building character and growing. Without failure, who would you be? I wouldn't be up here if I hadn't fallen thousands of times. Made mistakes.

"We all are human, we all have weaknesses, and I think throughout this, (it's been important) to be able to share that and be transparent. I know when I listen to people speak and they share their weaknesses, I'm listening. Because (it) resonates.

"So I'm not perfect. I'm not Superman. I might be in the NFL, I might have just won a Super Bowl, but, hey, we still have daily struggles, I still have daily struggles. And that's where my faith comes in, that's where my family comes in.

"I think when you look at a struggle in your life, just know that's just an opportunity for your character to grow. And that's just been the message. Simple. If something's going on in your life and you're struggling? Embrace it. Because you're growing."

Perspective. I'm a Foles fan, now.

We all make mistakes, we all fall down, we all fail.
Just gotta get up the next day and keep after.

Noles is a damn #BALLER
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 12:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:09 AM)presskh Wrote:  
(02-06-2018 11:08 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-06-2018 11:06 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  Something tells me that several players will not be returning. Something also tells me that Tubby will not put any more effort into recruiting players to replace them.

Tubby is a dumpster fire burning down the program.

Pastner actually burned it down. Tubby has done nothing to build it back up.

Do we really still have posters saying dumb stuff like this?

Just one...most of the Elvises left the building a long time ago.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 01:29 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:11 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:01 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:57 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:53 AM)Shooters Wrote:  If he doesn’t give a s*** and plays like he did tonight what difference does it make?

Carrying the whole city on your back has got to be tiring.

They didn't let him do his normal thing either.

He had a player just as athletic on him but who was taller and had longer arms and who was fundamentally strong defensively. And they were able to give help without actually completely leaving their own guy.
Yep.

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That is the key...When the only guy they are afraid of hitting a 3 is the one driving everyone else can stay in the paint...So you now have 5 guys close to the paint when he drives...Even if he beats his man he has so many more obstacles to overcome and essentially no one to bail him out at the 3 point line.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 03:57 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:29 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:11 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:01 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:57 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Carrying the whole city on your back has got to be tiring.

They didn't let him do his normal thing either.

He had a player just as athletic on him but who was taller and had longer arms and who was fundamentally strong defensively. And they were able to give help without actually completely leaving their own guy.
Yep.

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That is the key...When the only guy they are afraid of hitting a 3 is the one driving everyone else can stay in the paint...So you now have 5 guys close to the paint when he drives...Even if he beats his man he has so many more obstacles to overcome and essentially no one to bail him out at the 3 point line.

Absolutely no disagreement.

I feel this in no way reflects on Martin's effort or game.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 04:30 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 03:57 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:29 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:11 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:01 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  They didn't let him do his normal thing either.

He had a player just as athletic on him but who was taller and had longer arms and who was fundamentally strong defensively. And they were able to give help without actually completely leaving their own guy.
Yep.

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That is the key...When the only guy they are afraid of hitting a 3 is the one driving everyone else can stay in the paint...So you now have 5 guys close to the paint when he drives...Even if he beats his man he has so many more obstacles to overcome and essentially no one to bail him out at the 3 point line.

Absolutely no disagreement.

I feel this in no way reflects on Martin's effort or game.

People are blaming Martin for not stepping up.. and yet it was Tubby who did not devise any plan to deal with this easily predictable scenario.

If I were Martin, I'd be cramming courses in as fast as possible to grad early.

He can't do it all against good teams. He is one person. Good teams can stop 1 person. Jamal tossed up airballs. Thornton hit a few threes. We were 2 of some number from 3 last night..
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?
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(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.
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(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Wichita State Game Thread*** (2/6)
(02-07-2018 05:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.

No, I would say that most of the team wasn't happy at all with all of the dribbling he would do deep into the shot clock. This year would be a bit of a different story though. Martin's outside shot has improved to the point that when Dedric had the ball inside, they wouldn't be able to double team him so quickly.

Many of Martin's shots are step back 3's or contested. Everyone knows that him and Davenport are our only weapons. If they had to worry about Dedric (which clearly they would), it would have opened things up for everyone else, especially Martin.
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(02-07-2018 05:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.

They weren’t in the same clique. KJ and Martin not best of buds.
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(02-07-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.

They weren’t in the same clique. KJ and Martin not best of buds.

"His relationship with KJ and Dedric Lawson may have some influence as all 3 have known each other for 9 years plus. Could this and other factors lead him into to choosing his hometown team? I think we will all know soon but best believe, if you get Martin, he’s not just some player from the area to give a scholarship too, he’s more than deserving and would be a steal for the Tiger program to get a guard of this caliber. Jeremiah would have been the Tigers best guard this year as a high school senior. His play will be infectious to his teammates and he would become a crowd favorite of the fans of Memphis. Memphis fans, if you get Martin, you will be glad you did."
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(02-07-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 04:46 PM)dwash Wrote:  Lets blame the only player that would ever start for a top 25 team. Wth?

He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.

They weren’t in the same clique. KJ and Martin not best of buds.

Does anyone get along with KJ
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(02-07-2018 03:57 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:29 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:11 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 01:01 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 12:57 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Carrying the whole city on your back has got to be tiring.

They didn't let him do his normal thing either.

He had a player just as athletic on him but who was taller and had longer arms and who was fundamentally strong defensively. And they were able to give help without actually completely leaving their own guy.
Yep.

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That is the key...When the only guy they are afraid of hitting a 3 is the one driving everyone else can stay in the paint...So you now have 5 guys close to the paint when he drives...Even if he beats his man he has so many more obstacles to overcome and essentially no one to bail him out at the 3 point line.
And they have a lot more guys in a rebounding position.

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(02-08-2018 09:38 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:14 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 05:06 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  He was set up for it. The only guy who could do anything took the team on his back in every game he could. He even tried to get other players involved at times.

Bottom line. A team in this conference has to have more than just ONE very good player, especially when it comes up against a team with FIVE very good to excellent players on the floor at all times. And WSU wasn't playing their best.

I'm surprised we only lost by 20. Some of the other guys stepped up and WSU seemed to be clanking a few too many threes.

I wonder how good we would be this year if we had Dedric in the post and Markel on the wing to compliment Martin's growth as the primary facilitator. But we'll never know due to pride... Has to do it 'his way' instead of taking the path that requires him to get a little help.

The Lawson's raved about how good Jeremiah was and how much they loved playing with him.

If I am not mistaken.

They weren’t in the same clique. KJ and Martin not best of buds.

Does anyone get along with KJ

Eh....He looks to have classic older brother chip on his shoulder. Hurts when your younger brothers are better than you are.
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