(01-22-2018 06:45 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:56 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Good news. Per CA, Martin expected to play Saturday against Cincy.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...054740001/

Good. I was trying not to imagine brewton or Rhodes starting at pg against Cindy.

Gotta admit, I was curious to see what would happen.

Mark G. suggested trying Nickelberry.

I just can't see that.

Cal tried Witherspoon at point. Not very successfully. I can see some similarities here.

(01-22-2018 06:48 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:45 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:56 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Good. I was trying not to imagine brewton or Rhodes starting at pg against Cindy.

Gotta admit, I was curious to see what would happen.

Mark G. suggested trying Nickelberry.

I just can't see that.

Cal tried Witherspoon at point. Not very successfully. I can see some similarities here.

But we ain’t got no Tyreke and we ain’t got nobody coming in, as of yet.

Witherspoon was point at the start of the Rose team.

Edit: or not. I may be mixing my teams up. You may be right and it was the Tyreke team. Getting old sucks.

I remember quite well . Spoon was goofy looking lol. And then Cal did what Reke’s bro suggested

(01-22-2018 06:45 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:56 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Good news. Per CA, Martin expected to play Saturday against Cincy.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...054740001/

Good. I was trying not to imagine brewton or Rhodes starting at pg against Cindy.

Gotta admit, I was curious to see what would happen.

Mark G. suggested trying Nickelberry.

I just can't see that.

Beside JMart, Nickleberry is the very best passer on our team. He’s totally capable of playing Point Forward. Point might be Nickleberry’s best position

(01-22-2018 06:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:56 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 04:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Good news. Per CA, Martin expected to play Saturday against Cincy.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...054740001/

Good. I was trying not to imagine brewton or Rhodes starting at pg against Cindy.

Gotta admit, I was curious to see what would happen.

Mark G. suggested trying Nickelberry.

Nick probably sees the floor better than anyone and has the ability to setup the offense he just doesn't make the simple plays...He makes too many 'tight window' passes that are lasers that guys cant catch. He can't finish lightly contested layups and he cant hit open 3's.

Dude can rebound though...I think when he gets stronger and learns to recognize what the smart play is for the teammate he is passing it to he will be better. But that aint happening this year.

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:08 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  If I’m Tubby I keep Martin outta the Cincy game, it’s a game that we aren’t expected to win with or without Martin. (And not with Martin at less than full strength) Give him the extra days off to get to 100%.

Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:08 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  If I’m Tubby I keep Martin outta the Cincy game, it’s a game that we aren’t expected to win with or without Martin. (And not with Martin at less than full strength) Give him the extra days off to get to 100%.

Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

(01-23-2018 07:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:08 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  If I’m Tubby I keep Martin outta the Cincy game, it’s a game that we aren’t expected to win with or without Martin. (And not with Martin at less than full strength) Give him the extra days off to get to 100%.

Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

I agree. He should sit unless he is fully healed. We need him for the winnable games.

If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

(01-23-2018 07:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:08 PM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  If I’m Tubby I keep Martin outta the Cincy game, it’s a game that we aren’t expected to win with or without Martin. (And not with Martin at less than full strength) Give him the extra days off to get to 100%.

Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

Have you ever played sports...

These are the games you play for...You don't sit your best players against the best teams...You sit your best players against the worst teams.

If you are a competitor you don't play in only games you think you can win. If Martin is who I think he is you couldn't make him not play in this game.

This situation gets your blood going if you are a player.

(01-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

Yeah that is stupid to say it doesn't matter...

What was our record when we beat UT...That did nothing for us making a bowl but people still remember that win.

(01-23-2018 09:48 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 07:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

Have you ever played sports...

These are the games you play for...You don't sit your best players against the best teams...You sit your best players against the worst teams.

If you are a competitor you don't play in only games you think you can win. If Martin is who I think he is you couldn't make him not play in this game.

This situation gets your blood going if you are a player.

Yep. If you're good enough to go, you go. Not even a second thought about it.

(01-23-2018 09:50 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

Yeah that is stupid to say it doesn't matter...

What was our record when we beat UT...That did nothing for us making a bowl but people still remember that win.

As you say, it was stupid to say. The usual anti-Tubby types piping in.

(01-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

I see reading comprehension is not your strength...

"It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play."

(01-23-2018 09:59 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

I see reading comprehension is not your strength...

"It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play."

So dumb.

The first words in your post: "A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall."

A win against a top 10 team, against a conference rival and at home does nothing for the season? Just stupid. More sprained ankles from backtracking.

(01-23-2018 09:48 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 07:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

Have you ever played sports...

These are the games you play for...You don't sit your best players against the best teams...You sit your best players against the worst teams.

If you are a competitor you don't play in only games you think you can win. If Martin is who I think he is you couldn't make him not play in this game.

This situation gets your blood going if you are a player.

Yes, and at the college level. Enough to know that one game, even against a rival, top 10, etc., is not worth risking prolonging an injury, especially in the hip or lower body of a basketball player... No, one game is not worth risking multiple other games in the grand scheme of things. Especially, considering this one game does not move the needle much. If it was the conference championship and this was our only way into the NCAA tournament then ya I would say the risk may be worth the reward. But a regular season game in January - then no the risk is not worth the reward...

And it is the coaches and trainers jobs to protect the players. Of course, a college athlete is going to want to play pretty much 100% of the time but that does not mean it is what is best for the player long term.

The comment about only playing in winnable games is just stupid. I am in noway advocating sitting him against every team Vegas favors to beat us. This is an extenuating circumstance from injury and thus the hesitation to player him if it has a chance of extending the injury and results in him missing several other games. But you get that...

(01-23-2018 10:02 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:59 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tigx Wrote:  If they are announcing on Monday that Jeremiah will play, then it's obviously not a bad injury.

Cincinnati just made the AP Top 10. Tygrys says a home win against a Top 10 opponent does nothing for us. Wow. A home win against a Top 10 opponent and a conference rival is a pretty big win.

I see reading comprehension is not your strength...

"It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play."

So dumb.

The first words in your post: "A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall."

A win against a top 10 team, against a conference rival and at home does nothing for the season? Just stupid. More sprained ankles from backtracking.

Let's try one more time with reading comprehension, meaning look at the multiple sentences that form the paragraph and express the full thought, not just one sentence... And how providing my exact quote and nothing more is backtracking is confusing at best but appears to be right on par with your ability to reason or read for that matter...

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play.

So, let's break this down... What does a win against Cinci provide? A boost in team morale. Does is take us from on the NCAA bubble to in the tournament? No, we are not even on the bubble. Does it take us from not on the bubble to on the bubble? No, our only chance to get in the NCAA tournament is to win the conference championship. Okay, so then it does virtually nothing for us outside of boosting team morale (see quote above)... IMO, that is not worth risking prolonging an injury to our best player, especially considering the odds are so low of winning even with him (see earlier in the season beat down).

And stop the anti-Tubby. At least go look at my post history. I have spent far more time defending Tubby than being negative about him. Beyond that, thinking it is better to have Martin healthy and available to win multiple games is better than playing him for one game and then possibly missing him for several others resulting in more losses is anti-Tubby rhetoric is, I mean, whatever... But again, I get your ability to reason is limited. Ala, he disagrees with TigX, clearly anti-Tubby guy...

Tygrys - blah blah blah. No one wants to read a novel.

You said: "A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall." Dumb. If you don't want to get called out, don't post dumb stuff.

(01-23-2018 09:48 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 07:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 01:06 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 06:20 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 05:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Totally agree. Why waste him on Cincy?

To try our best to win?

At Martin's expense? There's no reason in a year where we aren't going to a tournament (prob not NIT either) that you need to risk someones health. I'd rather have him a full strength for the remainder of the season. However maybe he feels 100%, if not it just doesn't make much sense.

A win against Cinci does virtually nothing for the season overall. It would be a very nice win and boost morale some but not really increase our chances of getting into post season play. Why risk prolonging an injury for our best player against a team that we are very unlikely to win (with or without him) when it does very little overall for the trajectory of our season?

Let him rest and get to 100% before playing him.

Have you ever played sports...

These are the games you play for...You don't sit your best players against the best teams...You sit your best players against the worst teams.

If you are a competitor you don't play in only games you think you can win. If Martin is who I think he is you couldn't make him not play in this game.

This situation gets your blood going if you are a player.

spot on...