Watch this just to be educated on what the other side thinks of Putin's motives to throw the election to Trump. Why it was at a state level of trade craft. Consider it oppositional research. You don't even have to believe it. Just understand that this is the best reason for Putin to pull his shenanigans in the last election.


http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/m...7354563849


I took a voluntary self ban for the last two months. I wanted to get through the Christmas season and have goodwill towards my fellow man vibe throughout the holidays. When I watched this video I thought of this room immediately. You guys have to watch this. Some things are bigger than a Supreme Court seat. This is the full faith of the United States Government. When we told Ukraine if they would give up their nuclear arsenal and we would protect them we meant it. We wouldn't let a trillionaire despot tear our country apart. This is a stain on our country at this point. We have to get to the bottom of it.

I didn't even have a desire to post in here after the Alabama election. No one likes a braggart. However, Watching this video though? It got the blood boiling. I also believe Trump laundered the money through his high end properties. If we get a Democratic House he will be impeached within 6 months. The crimes are there. You won't get this House to investigate it and do their due diligence but if we can overcome the gerrymandering advantages Trump will be in bracelets.

I really don't understand the left's visceral hatred of all things Trump any more than I understood the right's visceral hatred of all things Clinton. You disagree on issues, that does not make the other person a despicable human being.

Woooo.....

Did you watch the video first?

Watch the video please.

What does this have to do with the Obama DOJ and FBI interfering in our elections?

(12-18-2017 08:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Watch this just to be educated on what the other side thinks of Putin's motives to throw the election to Trump. Why it was at a state level of trade craft. Consider it oppositional research. You don't even have to believe it. Just understand that this is the best reason for Putin to pull his shenanigans in the last election.


http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/m...7354563849


I took a voluntary self ban for the last two months. I wanted to get through the Christmas season and have goodwill towards my fellow man vibe throughout the holidays. When I watched this video I thought of this room immediately. You guys have to watch this. Some things are bigger than a Supreme Court seat. This is the full faith of the United States Government. When we told Ukraine if they would give up their nuclear arsenal and we would protect them we meant it. We wouldn't let a trillionaire despot tear our country apart. This is a stain on our country at this point. We have to get to the bottom of it.

Okay. I watched the video. And...............didn't see anything illegal done by Trump - at least from that video.

There has been lots of speculation concerning Hillary and the uranium deal as well.

Interesting you find this video to be the smoking gun relative to Trump, but ignore the Clinton's dealings with Russia........

I guess some people believe whatever they WANT to believe, no??

(12-18-2017 09:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Woooo.....
Did you watch the video first?
Watch the video please.

So where does the video describe anything illegal done by Trump?

Putin had plenty of motive to throw the election to Trump. Did Trump actively encourage that and work with them. That's what we need to get to the bottom of. Do we have an active Kompatriot in the big chair. I believe the evidence will show we do. The right should have the point of view that at the very least they need to do their due vigilance to exonerate our commander in chief. A lot of smoke surrounds the issue. It needs investigated without obstruction.

(12-18-2017 09:49 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Putin had plenty of motive to throw the election to Trump. Did Trump actively encourage that and work with them. That's what we need to get to the bottom of. Do we have an active Kompatriot in the big chair. I believe the evidence will show we do. The right should have the point of view that at the very least they need to do their due vigilance to exonerate our commander in chief. A lot of smoke surrounds the issue. It needs investigated without obstruction.

Sorry bud, but this week we are going to focus on those in the FBI and DOJ who were committing sedition for team Hillary. Maybe if dipshit McCabe actually shows up this week to testify instead of misreading his calendar like last week we can start to get some real answers.

Even after his famous buckle up post, there is not one shred of evidence of collusion with the Russian. The TDS in this one is as high as it gets. Over a year now since Trump won and Mach is still ranting like a mad man about it. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad......no wait, it is funny, in a big way.

"So where does the video describe anything illegal done by Trump?"

The video shows drop dead ass in the grass motive. What percent of this room will even watch it? Are you not even in the slightest bit concerned that we could have an active traitor in the big chair? Trump's actions will be his undoing. The investigations need to be finalized without obstruction.

(12-18-2017 09:43 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 08:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Watch this just to be educated on what the other side thinks of Putin's motives to throw the election to Trump. Why it was at a state level of trade craft. Consider it oppositional research. You don't even have to believe it. Just understand that this is the best reason for Putin to pull his shenanigans in the last election.


http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/m...7354563849


I took a voluntary self ban for the last two months. I wanted to get through the Christmas season and have goodwill towards my fellow man vibe throughout the holidays. When I watched this video I thought of this room immediately. You guys have to watch this. Some things are bigger than a Supreme Court seat. This is the full faith of the United States Government. When we told Ukraine if they would give up their nuclear arsenal and we would protect them we meant it. We wouldn't let a trillionaire despot tear our country apart. This is a stain on our country at this point. We have to get to the bottom of it.

Okay. I watched the video. And...............didn't see anything illegal done by Trump - at least from that video.

There has been lots of speculation concerning Hillary and the uranium deal as well.

Interesting you find this video to be the smoking gun relative to Trump, but ignore the Clinton's dealings with Russia........

I guess some people believe whatever they WANT to believe, no??

And the Obama administration squelching attempts by Operation Cassandra to indict Russia's Hezbollah arms dealer.

Listen Fredo 1 and 2. Let's just let the investigations continue without obstruction....mmkay.....................

(12-18-2017 09:49 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Putin had plenty of motive to throw the election to Trump. Did Trump actively encourage that and work with them. That's what we need to get to the bottom of. Do we have an active Kompatriot in the big chair. I believe the evidence will show we do. The right should have the point of view that at the very least they need to do their due vigilance to exonerate our commander in chief. A lot of smoke surrounds the issue. It needs investigated without obstruction.

At this point, I am much more in the camp that team Hillary did much more to rig the election than Trump. Anything with Trump at this point is pure speculation, we know for a fact that Clinton rigged the Democratic primary.....so there's that right off the bat..........

and then Fredo 3 pops in...........................

Just watch the video boys...... surprise me. Consider it opposition research.

At this point, I am much more in the camp that team Hillary did much more to rig the election than Trump.


Color me surprised..............................

(12-18-2017 09:57 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At this point, I am much more in the camp that team Hillary did much more to rig the election than Trump.


Color me surprised..............................

Color me surprised that you've already decided Trump is guilty of colluding with Russia to "throw the election". How about a bit of self reflection....

Running with mere speculation while ignoring actual fact. Typical.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/20...stigation/

Quote:Lebanese arms dealer Ali Fayad , a suspected top Hezbollah operative whom agents believed reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin as a key supplier of weapons to Syria and Iraq, was arrested in Prague in the spring of 2014. But for the nearly two years Fayad was in custody, top Obama administration officials declined to apply serious pressure on the Czech government to extradite him to the United States, even as Putin was lobbying aggressively against it.

Fayad, who had been indicted in U.S. courts on charges of planning the murders of U.S. government employees, attempting to provide material support to a terrorist organization and attempting to acquire, transfer and use anti-aircraft missiles, was ultimately sent to Beirut. He is now believed by U.S. officials to be back in business, and helping to arm militants in Syria and elsewhere with Russian heavy weapons.

The only video I'll be watching this week is when team Clinton Colluders are forced to testify under oath about their sedition plot.

Funny, how Muehller is supposed to be investigating collusion that occurred during the elections, and he actually hired several of the perps who did just that to be on the investigation team.

We told you not to go down that rabbit hole.

and here comes Mach....