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(08-08-2019 12:43 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  VT has the lunch pail to symbolized blue collar approach to hard work given to a player.

From day one I always thought we should have a symbol like that for hard work and outstanding play from 1 player each week. Maybe a hard hat would be a good symbol because ODU is always building. Maybe the super fan aka the hard hat guy could hold the hard hat that is given out to the best player that week.

I guess the ODU dog tag never became a tradition?

That’s Major Monarch, not Hard Hat Guy LOL


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(08-08-2019 01:45 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 12:31 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 12:18 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 12:01 PM)The Flagship Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 10:13 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Although its a stupid decision by the AD to not even pursue the bell from the big E

I would be willing to bet that this story is missing a lot of facts.

Always easy to take facts from an anonymous message board and run with it. I mean, posters have all the knowledge, skillsets, and vision without any risk of losing personal income, losing money against ODU's budget, running into compliance issues, or anything. It's awesome.

True. I personally wouldn't have believed it had it not been an ODU alum posting it on our forum with the information from another ODU alum being his superior. There are always risks and I personally don't want to act like I know all the risks that comes with that decision because I don't but to a third/fourth person reading OP's input it's easy to assume it's rather easy to perceive it as stupidity when you have someone in the middle facilitating it. Again not everyone in that communication channel might have all the info but to say "No thanks" instead of we will consider it says something. Doesn't it?

It tells me that it quickly hit on something that makes it problematic, and rather than giving false hope, it was denied.

With the stuff that is going on at just about every college campus these days, I think that its possible that the Admin is trying to limit connection to the military as much as possible, or to put it another way, trying to not go overboard I would bet that people have complained about military flyovers (That's an easy bet because I know it has happened). Also, the howitzer is a bigger issue than many realize, and for the life of me, I can't figure out how we still have it, but happy we do.

I have absolutely no idea what the actual reason is (but I can probably find out in time), but I think there is a very good chance that there is an explanation behind this, whether we think it is a good or bad one.

The last 13 years or so have been full of very difficult decisions by the school and athletic department. Probably 10 times the number of all the previous years combined. Big decisions like football, FBS, conference, Title IX compliance, facility upgrades, where the new football stadium should go, etc. to smaller ones like seating prices, parking, tailgate rules, etc. The 13 years prior was a piece of cake compared to the most recent 13 years. They probably have PTSD.

But aren't we heavily into the Wounded Warrior project. That alone would make me doubt your hypothesis.

(08-07-2019 02:20 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  I had one my company’s Executive VPs (we build our nuclear carriers) willing to go to the Navy to secure the Enterprise’s ship bell for our stadium. That VP got both his undergraduate and graduate degrees from ODU. Use the bell to ring before the team enters or rub like Howard’s Rock at Clemson. At that time the Navy had no established plan for the bell. But got an email response from Selig “we are happy with our existing traditions for ODU football”.

2 or 3 months later the Athletic department sent out communications asking the fan base for ideas on creating traditions for our football program. Still SMH

This is painful to hear.
Is this still an option? I graduated last year and am still pretty tight with the Student Veterans Association and the Military Connection Center.

ODU has built the Navy for decades. It would be cool as he'll to have something like this on campus. Odds are it will end up somewhere in DC.

This may have been mentioned already, but how are ticket sales going thus far? Any insiders know if we are going to struggle to fill the stadium. Reading some ecu comments on 247, a poster mentioned there was talk of tarping off part of the stadium. Any truth in this? Thanks and sorry if this information has already been posted.

(08-09-2019 09:17 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  This may have been mentioned already, but how are ticket sales going thus far? Any insiders know if we are going to struggle to fill the stadium. Reading some ecu comments on 247, a poster mentioned there was talk of tarping off part of the stadium. Any truth in this? Thanks and sorry if this information has already been posted.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876342-post-16...id16229851

As for the tarp, they wouldn't be selling $100 season tickets for that section if they planned on tarping it.

(08-09-2019 09:20 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 09:17 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  This may have been mentioned already, but how are ticket sales going thus far? Any insiders know if we are going to struggle to fill the stadium. Reading some ecu comments on 247, a poster mentioned there was talk of tarping off part of the stadium. Any truth in this? Thanks and sorry if this information has already been posted.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876342-post-16...id16229851

As for the tarp, they wouldn't be selling $100 season tickets for that section if they planned on tarping it.

There was some talk on here about a tarp a few weeks ago, that's probably where they saw it. Zero percent chance we'll be tarping any sections.

If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

(08-09-2019 10:03 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

No way we tarp a 22,000 seat stadium. That would be humiliating. Id sooner just bulldoze the crappy end zone. Maybe we'd get the NEZ even quicker then. But honestly, I don't think we will need to consider that anyway. The first two games will be sold out. WKU will have a great turnout IF (and only if) we be ECU. The last three games will be decent if we have 3+ wins, and will be pathetic if we have 1 or 2 wins. If if they're pathetic crowds, they likely wont tarp for just 2 or 3 games.

(08-09-2019 10:48 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 10:03 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

No way we tarp a 22,000 seat stadium. That would be humiliating. Id sooner just bulldoze the crappy end zone. Maybe we'd get the NEZ even quicker then. But honestly, I don't think we will need to consider that anyway. The first two games will be sold out. WKU will have a great turnout IF (and only if) we be ECU. The last three games will be decent if we have 3+ wins, and will be pathetic if we have 1 or 2 wins. If if they're pathetic crowds, they likely wont tarp for just 2 or 3 games.

I dont think we have every had a pathetic crowd for any game ever. We have had bad student turnout, people leave in the 4th quarter, sellouts that didnt feel like sellout, but we have never ever had a bad crowd. I have never thought that the stadium looked half full or less at the beginning of a game.

(08-09-2019 10:56 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 10:48 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 10:03 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

No way we tarp a 22,000 seat stadium. That would be humiliating. Id sooner just bulldoze the crappy end zone. Maybe we'd get the NEZ even quicker then. But honestly, I don't think we will need to consider that anyway. The first two games will be sold out. WKU will have a great turnout IF (and only if) we be ECU. The last three games will be decent if we have 3+ wins, and will be pathetic if we have 1 or 2 wins. If if they're pathetic crowds, they likely wont tarp for just 2 or 3 games.

I dont think we have every had a pathetic crowd for any game ever. We have had bad student turnout, people leave in the 4th quarter, sellouts that didnt feel like sellout, but we have never ever had a bad crowd. I have never thought that the stadium looked half full or less at the beginning of a game.

The only ones that come to mind are the weather delay games, but those are an exception

(08-09-2019 09:17 AM)ODU2011 Wrote:  This may have been mentioned already, but how are ticket sales going thus far? Any insiders know if we are going to struggle to fill the stadium. Reading some ecu comments on 247, a poster mentioned there was talk of tarping off part of the stadium. Any truth in this? Thanks and sorry if this information has already been posted.

Related to attendance, my opinion on this is that ODU has not done a great job picking a player or two to be the face of the program- a name/face that everyone in the community would be interested in coming out to see. Let's face it, star power sells and we haven't had a "Star" since DeMarco and then TH. I thought Ray Lowry was charismatic enough as was OX and maybe even David Washington.

TH was worth the price of admission alone. We need that next charismatic guy.

I also don't want to be too harsh on the athletic department- they probably don't have the resources to develop and execute that kind of marketing strategy but we have to find a way to connect with the marginal fan. The "if you build it, they will come" notion is risky.

(08-09-2019 10:03 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

Why are we even entertaining this as a possibility? They can't tarp a section they're selling tickets to. This discussion is a waste of bandwidth.

(08-09-2019 11:25 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 10:03 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  If ODU tarps any part or section of the new stadium that would be extremely embarrassing... I'd rather see empty seats than a tarp

Why are we even entertaining this as a possibility? They can't tarp a section they're selling tickets to. This discussion is a waste of bandwidth.

I agree. I posted that in response to someone's comments about ODU buying a tarp a while back

This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

(08-09-2019 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

That's some smart thinkin' there. Agreed. In a alternate universe no conference mate should be more than a 6 hour drive from here.

(08-09-2019 11:46 AM)Roy Munson Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

That's some smart thinkin' there. Agreed. In a alternate universe no conference mate should be more than a 6 hour drive from here.

That being said there are only 841 season tickets available left on the Ynot ticket site. There were over 3000 one month ago. If we sellout season tickets after going 4-8 I would say we have a pretty good fan base.

(08-09-2019 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

Not sure why you included Coastal. They averaged 10k tickets sold last year. I doubt they'd travel well at all considering they don't even go to home games.

(08-09-2019 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

While i am not against a regional conference i don't think that is the group of schools that i want ODU to be associated with. American Conf is spread out just like CUSA is but most of them don't need opposing fan bases to fill their stadiums up. While its good to have conference mates that travel well you know you are deep doodoo if you need them to buy significant no of tickets to fill in the stadium. It ain't gonna happen. Admin needs to figure out a way to bring in competent coaches who can recruit and win and that will solve our issues. We played effing campbell and chowan with better crowds than last season for crying out loud. Again conference decisions happen with multiple sports in mind not just FB and well with the exception of UConn't. Imagine having basketball opponents from the schools you mentioned. Other than GaSt with was occasionally decent, it would bring flies to TED. Ain't happening.

(08-09-2019 11:58 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  This whole discussion of ticket sales is exactly why we need conference realignment. Other conference schools really have no chance to travel to ODU other than maybe Charlotte or Marshall. We would sell so many away tickets if we were in the same conference as App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga State and Georgia Southern. On good years the ODU fan base will come out strong, but in down years we have to rely on other schools to bring away fans. That is just a reality of the situation while we are growing the ODU football program.

Not sure why you included Coastal. They averaged 10k tickets sold last year. I doubt they'd travel well at all considering they don't even go to home games.

Fair but I was just including them as a realistic potential conference mate. Also if they have a few good years I could see them traveling better than Rice, UTEP, UTSA , FIU and FAU.