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(07-14-2019 02:30 PM)MONARCHSWIN Wrote:  They just need to start selling beer in the stadium so folks don’t feel compelled to spend the whole game in the beer garden.


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I love beer as much as the next guy, but if I'm going to the game, I'm going to watch the game. I can drink as many $2 beers as I want before the game or after.

I really have never understood the thought process behind going to the beer garden during the game (and likely missing a lot happening). Probably just me though. If beer selling would increase profit, thats great. It's already a pain in the ass dealing with all the drunks during the game though.

(07-15-2019 12:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-14-2019 02:30 PM)MONARCHSWIN Wrote:  They just need to start selling beer in the stadium so folks don’t feel compelled to spend the whole game in the beer garden.


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I love beer as much as the next guy, but if I'm going to the game, I'm going to watch the game. I can drink as many $2 beers as I want before the game or after.

I really have never understood the thought process behind going to the beer garden during the game (and likely missing a lot happening). Probably just me though. If beer selling would increase profit, thats great. It's already a pain in the ass dealing with all the drunks during the game though.

Ditto. Maybe if I was younger or older. But right now I got 2 kids and really want to watch the game. That's why I don't go to my firm's suite. It's a social event and not so much watching the game.

Once the kids are older or they stop coming with me maybe that'll change.

Count me as someone who agrees with you 100%. I could never quite understand the fixation with having to drink to excess in order to enjoy a sporting event. Key words: in excess.

(07-15-2019 12:57 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-14-2019 02:30 PM)MONARCHSWIN Wrote:  They just need to start selling beer in the stadium so folks don’t feel compelled to spend the whole game in the beer garden.


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I love beer as much as the next guy, but if I'm going to the game, I'm going to watch the game. I can drink as many $2 beers as I want before the game or after.

I really have never understood the thought process behind going to the beer garden during the game (and likely missing a lot happening). Probably just me though. If beer selling would increase profit, thats great. It's already a pain in the ass dealing with all the drunks during the game though.

I’m with you guys. It’s a shame how many people can’t go to sporting events, concerts, etc without drinking tons of beer. Makes you wonder

I'm not sure what the rules are for the stadium. But someone should be able to get a beer at some concession stand and enjoy it while in their seat watching the game. I'm not advocating for people to drink too much and act like dummies. But enjoying a beer or 2 in your seat should be as normal as a pepsi.

I don't think I have seen this posted anywhere, but if I missed it, you can delete. There is a write up in Coastal Virginia magazine about the stadium and they refer to the new scoreboard as the "TowneBank videoboard" so it looks like we did get some sponsorship dollars for it. On the flip side, I know TB already sponsored various other things so I'm not sure what the net would actually be if they reduce their dollars elsewhere.

(07-16-2019 08:05 AM)webster Wrote:  I'm not sure what the rules are for the stadium. But someone should be able to get a beer at some concession stand and enjoy it while in their seat watching the game. I'm not advocating for people to drink too much and act like dummies. But enjoying a beer or 2 in your seat should be as normal as a pepsi.

Completely agree. I was saying ditto to spending an entire game in the beer garden, just not enjoyable to me. I have plenty of buddies who do and love it. I do bet it gets hype in there when it's a good game! I perseonally would love to sit and enjoy a beer for the duration of the game.... at my seats. I assume this is some city/abc ordnance preventing that?

I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

Still plenty of great season tickets available. Tell your friends.

(07-16-2019 08:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

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The bricks look great. Can't wait to see where mine ends up.

(07-16-2019 09:19 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

(07-16-2019 09:57 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:19 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

I think most of the "drunk" crowd comes from the tailgate binging knowing they won't be able to have a beer in the stadium for a few hours. I don't think it's necessarily the small crowd in the endzone tunnel. I think the drunkenness would actually decrease if any Joe Blow could buy a beer anywhere in the stadium and enjoy at their seat. It would help with the tailgate binging prior to kickoff.

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Punk Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:57 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:19 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

I think most of the "drunk" crowd comes from the tailgate binging knowing they won't be able to have a beer in the stadium for a few hours. I don't think it's necessarily the small crowd in the endzone tunnel. I think the drunkenness would actually decrease if any Joe Blow could buy a beer anywhere in the stadium and enjoy at their seat. It would help with the tailgate binging prior to kickoff.

I have no facts to prove this but I would imagine that at least 30% of butts in seats are 20 and younger. And by the way, I am strongly in favor of beer sales through the middle of the 3rd quarter. I just don't think the University wants the liability- not for consumption....but sales.

(07-16-2019 10:31 AM)Roy Munson Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Punk Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:57 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:19 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I think there's several factors at play:

1. Reminder that ODU football is the only football in town. There are several people at the game who don't really care if ODU wins or loses

2. In addition, the actual football game is just part of the game day experience. Kind of goes in hand with post #1, but for a group of people, they aren't really spending their Saturday intently watching the game.

3. People love beer, especially here. I forget, was it 2012 Norfolk was considered the 2nd drunkest city, meaning we consumed the most alcohol per capita. (#1 was Boston).

You combine these three points together, and that's the formula for why there's so many people down there during the game.

My opinion on the matter is going to be unpopular... isn't it a $1k donation to get the rights to buy those tickets? So I don't think beer sales should happen outside of those designated areas, otherwise you lose on the bottom line. Bringing the beer out of there is another issue, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but it does slightly increase your chances of having a negative encounter with an overly drunk person in the stands/concourse. If my choice is to have a drunk person in front of me getting refills from the garden OR an empty seat since that person would have to stay in the garden, I'm going to choose the empty seat even if it looks worse on tv.

I think the obvious answer is to see how the stands look this season with the new seating area and club, and see if adjustments need to be made.

I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

I think most of the "drunk" crowd comes from the tailgate binging knowing they won't be able to have a beer in the stadium for a few hours. I don't think it's necessarily the small crowd in the endzone tunnel. I think the drunkenness would actually decrease if any Joe Blow could buy a beer anywhere in the stadium and enjoy at their seat. It would help with the tailgate binging prior to kickoff.

I have no facts to prove this but I would imagine that at least 30% of butts in seats are 20 and younger. And by the way, I am strongly in favor of beer sales through the middle of the 3rd quarter. I just don't think the University wants the liability- not for consumption....but sales.

Absolutely not.

Have you walked thru the tailgate lots? Have you walked thru the two clamshells on game day? No way 3 out of 10 people are 20 and under.

Gotta agree. ODU has a pretty old fan base for football and basketball. Id guess 15% is under 20, with the majority of that middle school or younger. Id also guess 70% is over 40. I hope they recognize that and specifically come up with some ways to engage teenagers, especially current students; and the 20 something crowd. Thats the future fanbase. What happens in 20-30 years when most of the fans wont be able to make the games? I do think thats part of why tailgating is important though. Thats part of the appeal to that 20 something age group, and once they're committed fans, hopefully they are Monarchs for life.

(07-16-2019 10:34 AM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:31 AM)Roy Munson Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Punk Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:57 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:19 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I doubt allowing people to take beers out of the beer garden would cause there to be more super drunk people roaming the stadium. If you have to go down there, get a beer, go back to your seat, consume said beer, then go back wait in line, and repeat, it would be pretty hard to get enough beers to get/stay super drunk. The people who want to get wasted are going to bring their own liquor or just stay in the beer garden for the entire game.

We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

I think most of the "drunk" crowd comes from the tailgate binging knowing they won't be able to have a beer in the stadium for a few hours. I don't think it's necessarily the small crowd in the endzone tunnel. I think the drunkenness would actually decrease if any Joe Blow could buy a beer anywhere in the stadium and enjoy at their seat. It would help with the tailgate binging prior to kickoff.

I have no facts to prove this but I would imagine that at least 30% of butts in seats are 20 and younger. And by the way, I am strongly in favor of beer sales through the middle of the 3rd quarter. I just don't think the University wants the liability- not for consumption....but sales.

Absolutely not.

Have you walked thru the tailgate lots? Have you walked thru the two clamshells on game day? No way 3 out of 10 people are 20 and under.

Yes. I am in the Silver lot
Yes, season ticket holder since day 1. Was in 118, Now 204
What part of "no facts to prove this" went over your head?
Fine- even if it's 10 or 20 percent- buying beers and passing them to a 17 year old who drove himself and friends to the games is a recipe for disaster for the University.
***AGAIN***- I'm in favor of in-game, in-stadium beer sales...but then again...my ass isn't on the line when a class action suit gets filed.

(07-16-2019 11:29 AM)Roy Munson Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:34 AM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:31 AM)Roy Munson Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Punk Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:57 AM)odu09 Wrote:  We're splitting hairs here, but I still think you would see more drunk roamers if you were allowed to bring your beer out of the garden. Agreed with your point that the ones who want to get wasted will get wasted no matter what the rules are anyway.

I think most of the "drunk" crowd comes from the tailgate binging knowing they won't be able to have a beer in the stadium for a few hours. I don't think it's necessarily the small crowd in the endzone tunnel. I think the drunkenness would actually decrease if any Joe Blow could buy a beer anywhere in the stadium and enjoy at their seat. It would help with the tailgate binging prior to kickoff.

I have no facts to prove this but I would imagine that at least 30% of butts in seats are 20 and younger. And by the way, I am strongly in favor of beer sales through the middle of the 3rd quarter. I just don't think the University wants the liability- not for consumption....but sales.

Absolutely not.

Have you walked thru the tailgate lots? Have you walked thru the two clamshells on game day? No way 3 out of 10 people are 20 and under.

Yes. I am in the Silver lot
Yes, season ticket holder since day 1. Was in 118, Now 204
What part of "no facts to prove this" went over your head?
Fine- even if it's 10 or 20 percent- buying beers and passing them to a 17 year old who drove himself and friends to the games is a recipe for disaster for the University.
***AGAIN***- I'm in favor of in-game, in-stadium beer sales...but then again...my ass isn't on the line when a class action suit gets filed.

So you make up statistics, which by that act disproves any point you are trying to make.

In stadium sales are fine. You are right that underage drinking is a potential liability. So in Stadium drinking cannot be ‘drink at your seat’. Because, to your point of tailgating and unregulated “underage” drinking, once you purchase and go to your seat you could still give it to someone 20 or younger. If underage drinking in stadium is a liability, then it has to be controlled. Similar to how it is handled today.

(07-16-2019 09:48 AM)Punk Wrote:  

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I think I see mine, can't quite make it out though.

They look great!