http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Lauer.html


For the ones asking, Geraldo is now known on record in groping women.

I'm not sure which side of this is more disturbing.

good!. BYE!

(11-30-2017 06:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Lauer.html


For the ones asking, Geraldo is now known on record in groping women.

This type of behavior represents a culture that I am unfamiliar with. I ate lunch with my father and one of my brothers. Among other things this topic came up. The consensus between us all was "in what world is this type of behavior considered acceptable". What in the hell causes this? Lack of respect for women? Entitlement? What the hell is wrong with people that do this and think its normal behavior or in anyway acceptable. I live in a different world and I am thankful.

(11-30-2017 07:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 06:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Lauer.html


For the ones asking, Geraldo is now known on record in groping women.

This type of behavior represents a culture that I am unfamiliar with. I ate lunch with my father and one of my brothers. Among other things this topic came up. The consensus between us all was "in what world is this type of behavior considered acceptable". What in the hell causes this? Lack of respect for women? Entitlement? What the hell is wrong with people that do this and think its normal behavior or in anyway acceptable. I live in a different world and I am thankful.

I got to listen to a completely different conversation from my white trash family this week. It was a bunch of excuse making about how It was a different era and the women clearly want something because they "didn't say nothin for 20 years." "Well she didn't slap him so that means she kissed him.back" and other similar comments.

Now you know why Geraldo was a Clinton protector during zippergate.

Geraldo came out and defended Matt Lauer yesterday.

(11-30-2017 10:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Geraldo came out and defended Matt Lauer yesterday.

Honest to God he did. He tried to minimize the seriousness. I knew he was next up.

Porn mustache like that you just know the guy was creepin.

If this happened as Bette Midler said there will or would be others....if you use power of who you are its never a one time thing.

I take it some of you did not grow up in the 70s or early 80s....

Everything wasn't offensive as it is today. That's not a excuse for someone forcing them self on someone. It was just a different time, when people used sex, their bodies, and sex appeal to get what they wanted. It worked both ways.

I'm going to put a lot of this that we are seeing today in the same group of....Day-care sex-abuse hysteria in the late 80s early 90s. Some is true and some is not and a few of these ladies are being used.

(11-30-2017 11:31 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If this happened as Bette Midler said there will or would be others....if you use power of who you are its never a one time thing.

I take it some of you did not grow up in the 70s or early 80s....

Everything wasn't offensive as it is today. That's not a excuse for someone forcing them self on someone. It was just a different time, when people used sex, their bodies, and sex appeal to get what they wanted. It worked both ways.

I'm going to put a lot of this that we are seeing today in the same group of....Day-care sex-abuse hysteria in the late 80s early 90s. Some is true and some is not and a few of these ladies are being used.

I'm grew up in those times. If I did any of those things I expected.

1 a punch in the mouth
2 a dad, brother, uncle, cousin of the female kicking my ass
3 legal action.
4 an ass whipping by my dad.

4th was the worst outxome.

Clint Eastwood is said to be a playboy back in those days. He fathered children with women who were not his wife. Many actors back in those days of the 40s, 60s and 70s fooled around, and that is why you have so many d.I.V.O.R.C.E.S

Hunh.

Geraldo was pretty notorious back in the day, no doubt about that.

If it turns out THIS allegation is true then I’d say that’s it.

I’d have to convict him of criminally bad taste in which broads to grope.

Like slick willie kind of bad taste. Ewwwww...


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(12-01-2017 07:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Hunh.

Geraldo was pretty notorious back in the day, no doubt about that.

It if THIS allegation is true then I’d say that’s it.

I’d have to convict him of criminally bad taste in which broads to grope.

Like slick willie kind of bad taste. Ewwwww...


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You talking about Paula Jones? She had a nose like Gonzo the Muppet.

I find it hard to believe anyone would grope Bette Midler on purpose.

(11-30-2017 06:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm not sure which side of this is more disturbing.

That was my first thought as well.

(12-01-2017 01:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Clint Eastwood is said to be a playboy back in those days. He fathered children with women who were not his wife. Many actors back in those days of the 40s, 60s and 70s fooled around, and that is why you have so many d.I.V.O.R.C.E.S

Except you're talking about two different subjects IF Eastwood's activities were consensual.

Look, I'm as much a horn dog as anyone and have found many women with whom I had contact, attractive. But to fondle some woman without her consent NEVER crossed my mind. For crying out loud, isn't that consider assault in most jurisdictions?

(12-01-2017 09:51 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 01:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Clint Eastwood is said to be a playboy back in those days. He fathered children with women who were not his wife. Many actors back in those days of the 40s, 60s and 70s fooled around, and that is why you have so many d.I.V.O.R.C.E.S

Except you're talking about two different subjects IF Eastwood's activities were consensual.

Look, I'm as much a horn dog as anyone and have found many women with whom I had contact, attractive. But to fondle some woman without her consent NEVER crossed my mind. For crying out loud, isn't that consider assault in most jurisdictions?

I know this is not the same as we are talking about but sure you have.

You telling me you asked every girl before cupping a tit or rubbing her ass and waited for her to say yes?

Again I'm not trying to say this is even in the same ball park as "groping" like most of these that are coming out. But I think most of us men took "consent " as not being stopped by the person. Maybe I'm the outcast and just a pig but I don't recall asking a date if I can do that before trying. Maybe it was a build up...knee, thigh, then the goodies. But I never asked...'do you care if I touch your *****"

consent is in the eye of the beholder

(12-01-2017 10:25 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 09:51 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 01:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Clint Eastwood is said to be a playboy back in those days. He fathered children with women who were not his wife. Many actors back in those days of the 40s, 60s and 70s fooled around, and that is why you have so many d.I.V.O.R.C.E.S

Except you're talking about two different subjects IF Eastwood's activities were consensual.

Look, I'm as much a horn dog as anyone and have found many women with whom I had contact, attractive. But to fondle some woman without her consent NEVER crossed my mind. For crying out loud, isn't that consider assault in most jurisdictions?

I know this is not the same as we are talking about but sure you have.

You telling me you asked every girl before cupping a tit or rubbing her ass and waited for her to say yes?

If a woman puts her arms around me, gives me a deep kiss, and reaches down and grabs my WKUYG, then yes, I have received her consent to cup her tit and rub her ass.

For the love of god dude, I've never asked one to sign a consent form, but anyone with a pulse knows when a woman is in agreement that touching will be allowed.

And on the outside chance that the deep kiss is only that, and that touching is not allowed, she can simply stop the guy's hand or say "no". In my book, he has not groped her.

(12-01-2017 10:40 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 10:25 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 09:51 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 01:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Clint Eastwood is said to be a playboy back in those days. He fathered children with women who were not his wife. Many actors back in those days of the 40s, 60s and 70s fooled around, and that is why you have so many d.I.V.O.R.C.E.S

Except you're talking about two different subjects IF Eastwood's activities were consensual.

Look, I'm as much a horn dog as anyone and have found many women with whom I had contact, attractive. But to fondle some woman without her consent NEVER crossed my mind. For crying out loud, isn't that consider assault in most jurisdictions?

I know this is not the same as we are talking about but sure you have.

You telling me you asked every girl before cupping a tit or rubbing her ass and waited for her to say yes?

If a woman puts her arms around me, gives me a deep kiss, and reaches down and grabs my WKUYG, then yes, I have received her consent to cup her tit and rub her ass.

For the love of god dude, I've never asked one to sign a consent form, but anyone with a pulse knows when a woman is in agreement that touching will be allowed.

And on the outside chance that the deep kiss is only that, and that touching is not allowed, she can simply stop the guy's hand or say "no". In my book, he has not groped her.

So the woman was groping you first? Or you wait for the grope before making your move? Would it have offend you if you didn't want the kiss or her felling for your junk? Would it have been sexual abuse because she read you as being OK with it? Even if you weren't but didn't tell her to stop?

Just because you think it's clear when to grope doesn't mean the other person is giving you consent. And throw in a few drinks and what you take as consent might not be what is meant.

I personally call it dating and if the move is unwanted then you stop. But I think we all groped without consent at some point in our life. And in this post I argued both sides.

Again nothing I said would be considered forcing yourself on the other person...sexual assault. But in today's world, a lot of people would disagree with that opinion.