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(11-25-2017 09:47 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hulu showing the Virtual Bowl?

We got a kid to Periscope it. Paid him in Dairy Whip coupons.
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(11-27-2017 12:04 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 09:41 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It's looking possible that In addition to the Peach Bowl, we could send teams to the Military bowl vs. ACC, Independence Bowl vs. ACC, and Liberty Bowl vs. Big 12. The Birmingham bowl will probably not have an SEC team. We also have secondary tie ins to Independence and Liberty and those are likely to go unfilled by SEC.

If this happens, which 3 teams will get these slots. USF looking likely to Military. My guess is Memphis/UCF loser to Liberty and Houston to Independence.

That's exactly how I predicted it in an earlier thread. You sir are a very smart man04-cheers I can also see SMU getting the Frisco bowl vs pac12

If I had to guess, SMU is going to Hawaii.
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(11-27-2017 01:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 12:04 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 09:41 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It's looking possible that In addition to the Peach Bowl, we could send teams to the Military bowl vs. ACC, Independence Bowl vs. ACC, and Liberty Bowl vs. Big 12. The Birmingham bowl will probably not have an SEC team. We also have secondary tie ins to Independence and Liberty and those are likely to go unfilled by SEC.

If this happens, which 3 teams will get these slots. USF looking likely to Military. My guess is Memphis/UCF loser to Liberty and Houston to Independence.

That's exactly how I predicted it in an earlier thread. You sir are a very smart man04-cheers I can also see SMU getting the Frisco bowl vs pac12

If I had to guess, SMU is going to Hawaii.

I think Navy should get the Hawaii bowl. They'll have a built-in fan base and the travel costs would be irrelevant. IF they're matched up against Sdsu it possible be an all naval affair between two dynamic run oriented offenses. From a financial aspect Houston vs an Acc team in driving range could be a real boon for them and the conference
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C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?
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(11-27-2017 01:37 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 01:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 12:04 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 09:41 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It's looking possible that In addition to the Peach Bowl, we could send teams to the Military bowl vs. ACC, Independence Bowl vs. ACC, and Liberty Bowl vs. Big 12. The Birmingham bowl will probably not have an SEC team. We also have secondary tie ins to Independence and Liberty and those are likely to go unfilled by SEC.

If this happens, which 3 teams will get these slots. USF looking likely to Military. My guess is Memphis/UCF loser to Liberty and Houston to Independence.

That's exactly how I predicted it in an earlier thread. You sir are a very smart man04-cheers I can also see SMU getting the Frisco bowl vs pac12

If I had to guess, SMU is going to Hawaii.

I think Navy should get the Hawaii bowl. They'll have a built-in fan base and the travel costs would be irrelevant. IF they're matched up against Sdsu it possible be an all naval affair between two dynamic run oriented offenses. From a financial aspect Houston vs an Acc team in driving range could be a real boon for them and the conference

Travel costs irrelevant? How so?

I've put the Hawaii Bowl possibility out there - Navy IS the ONLY AAC team that will sell any tickets at all to that game. The majority will be "buy to donate to a midshipman / sailor" but it will get some turn out (I had duty myself, but my wife and our social crew and plenty of Navy fans made the '96 Aloha Bowl vs Cal). However, Navy probably lobbying against it - we are playing at Hawaii next Labor Day, and sales of either would be taking money out of our own pocket.
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(11-25-2017 07:35 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Hopefully Memphis wins and goes to the access bowl. If not, I hope they go anywhere but Birmingham.

Legion Field is a run down piece of crap in a bad part of a bad town. It is easily the worst stadium I've been to in the country.

I have always wondered why the NCAA approves a bowl game there and why the ACC would agree to send a team there.

Like you I have been to probably more than 50 stadiums in this country and it is by far the worst
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(11-27-2017 02:41 PM)willhclark Wrote:  C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?

Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).
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(11-27-2017 03:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 07:35 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Hopefully Memphis wins and goes to the access bowl. If not, I hope they go anywhere but Birmingham.

Legion Field is a run down piece of crap in a bad part of a bad town. It is easily the worst stadium I've been to in the country.

I have always wondered why the NCAA approves a bowl game there and why the ACC would agree to send a team there.

Like you I have been to probably more than 50 stadiums in this country and it is by far the worst

The ACC has no tie there. The SEC does. The bowl is in the center of the SEC footprint--in fact, Birmingham is the location of the SEC league office.
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(11-27-2017 03:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 07:35 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Hopefully Memphis wins and goes to the access bowl. If not, I hope they go anywhere but Birmingham.

Legion Field is a run down piece of crap in a bad part of a bad town. It is easily the worst stadium I've been to in the country.

I have always wondered why the NCAA approves a bowl game there and why the ACC would agree to send a team there.

Like you I have been to probably more than 50 stadiums in this country and it is by far the worst

The ACC has no tie there. The SEC does. The bowl is in the center of the SEC footprint--in fact, Birmingham is the location of the SEC league office.

Yep, and they have gone on record before saying as long as they are HQ'd there, they'll play in a bowl game in B'ham.
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If we are invited to a bowl, we will not accept.


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CUSA v1.0 had the Liberty bowl for their champion


we don't even have that much lol
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(11-27-2017 03:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 07:35 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Hopefully Memphis wins and goes to the access bowl. If not, I hope they go anywhere but Birmingham.

Legion Field is a run down piece of crap in a bad part of a bad town. It is easily the worst stadium I've been to in the country.

I have always wondered why the NCAA approves a bowl game there and why the ACC would agree to send a team there.

Like you I have been to probably more than 50 stadiums in this country and it is by far the worst
Birmingham is a decent mid size city and is pretty centrally located for many AAC fan bases. Legion Field is not that great... but I have enjoyed many games there and the stadium has decent sightlines..
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(11-27-2017 06:50 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  CUSA v1.0 had the Liberty bowl for their champion


we don't even have that much lol

Yup. Most of em are just another random game against just another random G5 team. In the next bowl cycle, we need to--

1) Get the ACC to sign on full time in St Pete.
2) Add a full tie to the Heart of Dallas Bowl vs the B12/B10
3) Add a full tie to the Armed Forces Bowl vs B12/B10
4) Add the Indy Bowl vs either the ACC or SEC
5) Hang on to the Military Bowl and Birmingham Bowls
6) maybe get some sort of floating slot or rotation in the Music City/Liberty/Belk bowls (thats a long long shot)
7) Add NOLA.

That would give us P5 games in St Pete, Annapolis, Birmingham, Indy, Dallas, and Ft Worth (6) and G5 games in New Orleans and 2 of Orlando, Boca, and Frisco. Thats about the best case scenario for the next cycle---basically, we are looking at just incremental improvement.
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(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 02:41 PM)willhclark Wrote:  C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?

Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).

I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.
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(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 02:41 PM)willhclark Wrote:  C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?

Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).

I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.

Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.
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(11-27-2017 08:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 02:41 PM)willhclark Wrote:  C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?

Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).

I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.

Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.

Anyone know which bowls are NBC ones?
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(11-27-2017 08:44 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 02:41 PM)willhclark Wrote:  C-USA had better bowl tie-ins.

What the hell is Aresco doing?

Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).

I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.

Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.

Anyone know which bowls are NBC ones?

The 6 Notre Dame home games.
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(11-27-2017 08:53 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:44 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Well...for the most part, there wasnt alot he could do. That said, I think he did make some mistakes.

Probably concentrated too long on maintaining the old BE ties with the Pinstripe, Belk, and Liberty. They werent going to stay with us. Instead, he probably should have concentrated on courting G5 vs P5 bowls like the Armed Forces and Heart of Dallas. We should have had a full time tie to at least one of those (if not both). Probably should have grabbed NOLA (good location even if it a SB game). The Miami Bowl should have been financed better so its pay out would be high enough to attract a P5 opponent.

I suspect most of these errors will be corrected in the next bowl cycle. If we are extremely lucky and everything goes our way--maybe we are able to work with a major network to land one Belk/Liberty/Music City level bowl for our champ (but the odds are stacked heavily against us on that one).

I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.

Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.

Anyone know which bowls are NBC ones?

The 6 Notre Dame home games.

NBC airs 6 Notre Dame bowls per year or are you using ECU math?
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(11-27-2017 08:56 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:53 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:44 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)PT_american Wrote:  I agree he likely overplayed his hand and should have focused on lower tier P5 matchups. I think this would potentially be doable in the next round which should be coming up as we have 2 years left in the current cycle. So next year I would imagine deals are struck for the next cycle.

#1 Pool Liberty/Gator/Texas (years we don’t get access)
#2-5 Independence vs ACC
#2-5 Military vs ACC
#2-5 Bham vs SEC
#2-5 Armed Forces/HOD vs Big 12
#6-9 St Pete vs CUSA
#6-9 Frisco vs MWC
#6-9 New Orleans vs Sun Belt
#6-9 Cure vs MAC

#1 would be the hardest to secure but the rest I feel is very doable and would be incrementally better while securing 4 P5 matchups each year. We would only likely fill 2 of the bottom bracket each year as well.

Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.

Anyone know which bowls are NBC ones?

The 6 Notre Dame home games.

NBC airs 6 Notre Dame bowls per year or are you using ECU math?

Yes. They air 0 bowl games. Get a sense of humor again.
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(11-27-2017 09:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:56 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:53 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:44 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 08:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Thats going to be darn near impossible unless we are working with a network. The only way I see it is if we include it as part of our TV negotiations.

Anyone know which bowls are NBC ones?

The 6 Notre Dame home games.

NBC airs 6 Notre Dame bowls per year or are you using ECU math?

Yes. They air 0 bowl games. Get a sense of humor again.

I am a very humorous guy. Your math is just not too good.
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