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(09-21-2017 10:20 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-21-2017 09:47 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-21-2017 09:45 AM)Dasville Wrote:  The disinformation and diversion campaign the MSM and the prior administration colluded on would have worked on any other Presidential contender. Love him or hate him there can be no doubt that President Donald Trump has been the right man at the right time for the United States of America.

The right man at the right time to do what?

What exactly was Trump elected to do?

Make unpopular / hard decisions which won't score cheap political points.

Give us an example.

That no one is able to answer these two simply questions speaks volumes.
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What unpopular decision has he made? I make the claim that he is just pandering to his base. My evidence is his high support amongst his base. He has only made extremely unpopular decisions that electrify his base and upsets his opponents.
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Claim, Evidence of this claim, then support it.
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If nothing else, President Trump has gotten China to move on NOKO but he has and will do much more.
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(09-21-2017 09:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 07:28 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Fantastic article on the situation:

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3514...-did-to-me

Dated Sept. 21, 2010, the “global intelligence” firm Stratfor wrote:

[John] Brennan [then an Obama Homeland Security adviser] is behind the witch hunts of investigative journalists learning information from inside the beltway sources.

Note -- There is specific tasker from the WH to go after anyone printing materials negative to the Obama agenda (oh my.) Even the FBI is shocked. The Wonder Boys must be in meltdown mode...

Anyone want to guess what the Agenda is?

Political clearly.

Quote:BY SHARYL ATTKISSON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 09/20/17 08:30 AM EDT
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

Quote:Sharyl Attkisson is an American author and host of the weekly Sunday public affairs program Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson, which airs on television stations operated by the Sinclair Broadcast Group.

Next!
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(09-21-2017 09:45 AM)Dasville Wrote:  Love him or hate him there can be no doubt that President Donald Trump has been the right man at the right time for the United States of America.

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President Trump has gotten China to move on NOKO

What evidence do you have to make this claim? Please support this evidence.
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(09-21-2017 08:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 05:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 03:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Once again for the upteenth time. Requesting an unmasking isn't illegal for Susan Rice who was in the position to do so at the time.

No it isnt illegal. Nor is it illegal to grant. Doing it for political purposes is. So...why was a UN ambassador Rice unmasking Trump campaign officals and high ranking republicans? If Nkki Haley was caught unmasking Nancy Pelosi the Obama-bots on here would be talking impeachment. The Obama-bots have zero credibility at this point.

THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DOES THE UNMASKING!

Why do you continue to refuse to accept this undeniable fact?

So what? Your defense amounts to saying "The Obama administration right hand didnt do it----the left hand did". Its an incredibly irrelevant argument. By the way, there's a name for what you are describing. Its called collusion.

According to the Trump administration, collusion isn't illegal so there's that.

Link?

Source, who this is "according to"?
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(09-21-2017 10:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes. You made a claim that President Trump is the right man for the job at this time. What evidence do you have to back up this claim. Please support your evidence in a paragraph following. What has Trump done to make him the right man for the job?

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He and his admin are beginning to peel back and expose the rank corruption of the former administration and federal government apparatus as a whole. These activities, if proven true, are a callous violation of the Constitutional rights of HUNDREDS of American citizens and should be very troubling to every single citizen of this once great Nation. We used to have specific protections, endowed by our Creator, not allowed by the Gubment. Instead we now have a federal bureaucracy (read: The Swamp) run amok, seemingly accountable to no one.

Perhaps until now. I can maybe think of 3-4 other candidates of the 20+ that ran last go around that would do the deep dig on this that it will take.

Pro- tip- The Cank wasn't one of them. These activities would have likely exploded under her incompetence and obviously clear paranoia. How many people are responsible for her utter failure now? Except her of course. 07-coffee3
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Just to clear this up. Collusion is not illegal. Using information that was illegally obtained is. Aiding and abetting.
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(09-21-2017 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-21-2017 09:13 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-20-2017 07:28 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Fantastic article on the situation:

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3514...-did-to-me

Dated Sept. 21, 2010, the “global intelligence” firm Stratfor wrote:

[John] Brennan [then an Obama Homeland Security adviser] is behind the witch hunts of investigative journalists learning information from inside the beltway sources.

Note -- There is specific tasker from the WH to go after anyone printing materials negative to the Obama agenda (oh my.) Even the FBI is shocked. The Wonder Boys must be in meltdown mode...

Anyone want to guess what the Agenda is?

Political clearly.

Quote:BY SHARYL ATTKISSON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 09/20/17 08:30 AM EDT
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

Quote:Sharyl Attkisson is an American author and host of the weekly Sunday public affairs program Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson, which airs on television stations operated by the Sinclair Broadcast Group.

Next!

Shooting the messenger.

The email or whatever it was came from Stratfor. Were they in the tank for someone back in 2010? Or are they another right-wing hate group of some sort?
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(09-21-2017 11:50 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  President Trump has gotten China to move on NOKO

What evidence do you have to make this claim? Please support this evidence.

If nothing else:

https://in.reuters.com/article/northkore...NKCN1BW1DE
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Ok. This is progress but the evidence you presented has plenty of holes.

"The sources said banks were told to stop providing financial services to new North Korean customers and to wind down loans with existing customers, following tighter sanctions against Pyongyang by the United Nations."

The Chinese bank won't even give out a official position. If Trump was able to do as you claim. "Get China to move on NOKO". Wouldn't you be able to presentt much stronger evidence than this? Do you still consider your claim valid?

I would give you a score of 2/4 on your initial claim with the opportunity to improve the grade with further evidence.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/45...n-manafort

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