Morehead State is 90 minutes from Lexington, but without EKU it is not really close to anyone in the conference - Tennessee Tech would be the next closest. At least Bellarmine (Louisville) would be closer, not to mention helps tie in some of Morehead's alumni inspire of the huge urban/rural divide.

I agree if EKU goes the independent route, Jacksonville State will probably do the same. At least EKU was under consideration from the Sun Belt, but Jacksonville State's candidacy is DOA with South Alabama, Troy, and most likely Georgia State not wanting them in the Sun Belt as well.

Bellermine still has to actually pull the trigger on a move up to DI, but having a likely OVC invite would help make that decision, I agree.

(08-06-2017 02:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 11:20 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  There's a built-in grace period in the rules anyway. So since the Summit is still in compliance to at least July 1, 2018, if not longer, a school like North Dakota or South Dakota could add men's soccer, then grabbing two baseball schools as affiliates could cure the non-compliance.

The alternative would be for everyone to add men's volleyball, as the bare bones measure for compliance would be to offer 2.3 scholarships (50% of 4.5). Everyone obviously has a gym, and the only other expenses would be coaches' salaries and operations. If the Summit had one more hockey school it could use the four plus at least two affiliates option for that sport, but any upgrades from Division II would have had to join in 2015 for that to have been an option.

Absolutely LOVE this idea. Not sure if it has a chance in heck ... but would LOVE to see all four Dakota's step up and save the Summit League by adding men's soccer and men's volleyball as varsity sports.

(08-06-2017 01:54 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Murray and Eastern both fly the coop, the OVC ought to add Kennesaw State and Bellarmine:

SiU Edwardsville/Eastern Illinois
Southeast Missouri State/Tenneseee-Martin
Austin Peay/Belmont
Tennessee State/Tennessee Tech
Bellarmine/Morehead State
Jacksonville State/Kennesaw State

North Alabama is actually closer to Nashville than it is Jacksonville, but they could work in place of Kennesaw State if the OVC hangs on until after their transition is complete.

Better yet, don't add those two and also lose Jacksonville State, which has a much stronger FCS football program than Eastern Kentucky. I don't see any chance that if Eastern seeks a waiver to move up to FBS independent, that Jacksonville St wouldn't do the exact same thing. They'd love to be playing Troy again.


In that case ..... why does Morehead care if it's the last/only Kentucky school left in the OVC?? SEMO is the only Missouri school, E ILL is the only Illinois schools .... so what?

SIU-E is also an Illinois school.

Jax St and E Kentucky would likely blow the coop at the same time for FBS. The ASUN could then swoop in and take them both if the OVC want e d to get ugly about it. Morehead St doesn't participate in OVC football, so there is precedence to stay.

Doh! Yep, it is ... or one could argue it's really a Missouri school. Either way ...

(08-05-2017 06:44 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:39 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Horizone & MVC are not going to 12,
both made ultra conseriveted moves for status que
Murrey not gonna get in MVC
Eastern Kent would # 4 FBS, that ludercus

Murray St could not have moved on short notice as it would royally screw up their football schedule. Murray St and ORU or Milwaukee will get added this upcoming fall to the MVC. Lot of chatter on the MVC message boards about ORU now. Murray St seems definite.

EKU has added on to several venues as if their waiting a conference invite. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless EKU knows more then we do.

Because we all know that what is said on a message board always comes true. Neither ORU or Murray will be going to the MVC, neither will Milwaukee.

The MVC will not go to 12
The HL will not go to 12
EKU won't get an invite to the SBC or the MAC

(08-07-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:44 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:39 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Horizone & MVC are not going to 12,
both made ultra conseriveted moves for status que
Murrey not gonna get in MVC
Eastern Kent would # 4 FBS, that ludercus

Murray St could not have moved on short notice as it would royally screw up their football schedule. Murray St and ORU or Milwaukee will get added this upcoming fall to the MVC. Lot of chatter on the MVC message boards about ORU now. Murray St seems definite.

EKU has added on to several venues as if their waiting a conference invite. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless EKU knows more then we do.

Because we all know that what is said on a message board always comes true. Neither ORU or Murray will be going to the MVC, neither will Milwaukee.

The MVC will not go to 12
The OVC will not go to 12
EKU won't get an invite to the SBC or the MAC

The future of the Summit, which you maintain is rock solid, relies on your statements that no more expansion will happen. Yet, IPFW is desperate to get out. Very precarious statements.

(08-07-2017 04:00 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:44 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:39 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Horizone & MVC are not going to 12,
both made ultra conseriveted moves for status que
Murrey not gonna get in MVC
Eastern Kent would # 4 FBS, that ludercus

Murray St could not have moved on short notice as it would royally screw up their football schedule. Murray St and ORU or Milwaukee will get added this upcoming fall to the MVC. Lot of chatter on the MVC message boards about ORU now. Murray St seems definite.

EKU has added on to several venues as if their waiting a conference invite. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless EKU knows more then we do.

Because we all know that what is said on a message board always comes true. Neither ORU or Murray will be going to the MVC, neither will Milwaukee.

The MVC will not go to 12
The HL will not go to 12
EKU won't get an invite to the SBC or the MAC

The future of the Summit, which you maintain is rock solid, relies on your statements that no more expansion will happen. Yet, IPFW is desperate to get out. Very precarious statements.

Sorry, not concerned. And no one I know is concerned.

You spend too much time on message boards pretending that what is stated on them, means anything.

(08-07-2017 06:35 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 04:00 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:44 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-05-2017 06:39 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Horizone & MVC are not going to 12,
both made ultra conseriveted moves for status que
Murrey not gonna get in MVC
Eastern Kent would # 4 FBS, that ludercus

Murray St could not have moved on short notice as it would royally screw up their football schedule. Murray St and ORU or Milwaukee will get added this upcoming fall to the MVC. Lot of chatter on the MVC message boards about ORU now. Murray St seems definite.

EKU has added on to several venues as if their waiting a conference invite. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless EKU knows more then we do.

Because we all know that what is said on a message board always comes true. Neither ORU or Murray will be going to the MVC, neither will Milwaukee.

The MVC will not go to 12
The HL will not go to 12
EKU won't get an invite to the SBC or the MAC

The future of the Summit, which you maintain is rock solid, relies on your statements that no more expansion will happen. Yet, IPFW is desperate to get out. Very precarious statements.

Sorry, not concerned. And no one I know is concerned.

You spend too much time on message boards pretending that what is stated on them, means anything.

Several people in both leagues, MVC and Horizon officials and Presidents, and sportswriters are quoted on future expansion to at least 12, but that is entirely swept under the rug by you as message board talk.

SDSU fans reject the MVC by their fan vote because the Sioux Falls tournament it too dear to them. Holy Delusions! When you hang around people that are clueless, you get clueless yourself like SDSU fans. The Summit will go through some major gyrations to stay alive, and you are woefully unprepared for the emotions roller coaster.

Really, MVC looked more intrested in 5/5 split public/private
now MVC has 3 in IN & 4 in IL, they look like MAC now
Horizon went out on a limb, IUPUI, Horizon did need school in IN
where do you see an agessive move for multi bids

(08-08-2017 09:06 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Really, MVC looked more intrested in 5/5 split public/private
now MVC has 3 in IN & 4 in IL, they look like MAC now
Horizon went out on a limb, IUPUI, Horizon did need school in IN
where do you see an agessive move for multi bids

The MVC might go for a six/six public private split with Murray St and ORU added.

Horizon takes at least IPFW and Robert Morris, as both would have shiny new arenas in their first season. Maybe take Omaha and UMKC later.

Here's another cry to the OVC, this time from E Ill, to get more football teams, as they could lose Murray St to the MVFC and EKU and Jax St to FBS as Liberty has done. E Ill seems to be reaching out to W Ill to join a bus league and cut out air travel to the Dakotas and Denver.


jg-tc.com/sports/local/ovc-has-some-work-to-do/article_160593ae-2eed-5a42-a6af-466050246737.html

Guys, don't even bother clicking on the link. It's pure conjecture, with no quotes from anyone.

And the conjecture doesn't even say anything close to what NoDak is pretending.

That link says get better and add Chattanooga.

(08-08-2017 10:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Guys, don't even bother clicking on the link. It's pure conjecture, with no quotes from anyone.

And the conjecture doesn't even say anything close to what NoDak is pretending.

+1

I don't know where NoDak got Western Illinois from that article - given WIU isn't mentioned in the article.

We do know NoDak's wet dream is for WIU to bolt the Summit, of course.

(08-08-2017 10:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  That link says get better and add Chattanooga.

The OVC would be a major step down for the Mocs. Southern teams serious about football don't think OVC.

(08-08-2017 10:11 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Guys, don't even bother clicking on the link. It's pure conjecture, with no quotes from anyone.

And the conjecture doesn't even say anything close to what NoDak is pretending.

+1

I don't know where NoDak got Western Illinois from that article - given WIU isn't mentioned in the article.

We do know NoDak's wet dream is for WIU to bolt the Summit, of course.

The eastern wing of the Summit is doing serious scrambling for new conferences. MnpsBison isn't the realignment surgeon he claims to be.

No. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

(08-08-2017 10:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  That link says get better and add Chattanooga.

But you forgot to "read between the lines"...

Of course the article didn't say what NoDak says it did. The articles he links to never say what he states they do. He has a dream, a dream that has the MT, ID, ND and SD schools together. You won't get him off that dream until he moves on to the next dream.

(08-08-2017 10:12 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Southern teams serious about football don't think OVC.

Yeah, FCS National Championship Game ... definitely NOT serious, at all! http://gobison.com/news/2016/1/9/FB_0109...th=footbal

(08-09-2017 08:53 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:12 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Southern teams serious about football don't think OVC.

Yeah, FCS National Championship Game ... definitely NOT serious, at all! http://gobison.com/news/2016/1/9/FB_0109...th=footbal

Jax St is serious about fb and they want FBS. The official line of the OVC is to pull in Chattanooga, just to appease Jax St and E Kentucky so they don't leave. But they will leave eventually, and who does the OVC backfill for Fb? Submit it is W Ill and Lindenwood.