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(07-12-2017 08:27 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  First, does anybody know what laws were broken?
Second, how come no libtard was up in arms when the Ukranian government was colluding with the Clinton campaign? 07-coffee3

Clinton Corollary-Rules don't apply to our side.
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(07-12-2017 08:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:27 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  First, does anybody know what laws were broken?
Second, how come no libtard was up in arms when the Ukranian government was colluding with the Clinton campaign? 07-coffee3

Clinton Corollary-Rules don't apply to our side.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...on-anyone/

Webster's doesn't apply either. Imagined collusion when there is no collusion. Imagined treason when there is no treason. Contrary to the former narcissist in chief, the Democratic party is not equivalent to America. Now hysteria is common:

"Hysteria is never a substitute for argument, even when the prey is Donald Trump. This is a caution lost on the hysterics who, try as they might, cannot dispatch the president to the island of lost presidents. So they keep raising the ante of speech and fantasy.

The latest accusation against the Trump administration is treason, a serious crime indeed, and one that some of the unhinged Democrats, locked in the agonies of Trump Derangement Syndrome, are throwing around as if they know what they’re talking about...

Such worthies as these, whose learning in the law rivals that of Blackstone, John Marshall and maybe even Algonquin J. Calhoun, need not repair as far as a law library to brush up on the law, but merely consult Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution (available in any almanac) for the definition of treason in criminal prosecution: “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them [i.e., the states], or adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

The younger Mr. Trump may be guilty of bad judgment, reckless eagerness to aid his papa, possibly even federal campaign finance law, but he has, so far as anyone knows, not attempted to raise an army against the United States. John Brown was hanged at Harpers Ferry on the eve of the Civil War for trying to organize a slave rebellion, and Aaron Burr was prosecuted, unsuccessfully, in 1807 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and create an independent nation.

Invocation of the word “treason” is nonsense, as any jackleg lawyer or U.S. senator should know. Whatever the younger Mr. Trump did, it could not be treason because the United States was not, and is not, at war with Russia. The Democratic Party at war with the president doesn’t count...."
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I wonder what shade of orange or red Trump is today.

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(07-12-2017 04:36 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Putin could put gas on all of these smoldering fires and have a full blown 4 alarm fire. I think that was the lawyers first attempt before DJT jr tweeted out the emails. Remember her first statement? They sought her out for dirt on Clinton. That was a reminder they have leverage on them. How cold you not see that? They know they have him by the short curlies.

So, we should buckle up again?

At this point I think we're on the kiddie rides. So no, you should not buckle up.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/keystone-ko...1499814375

"...In the daisy chain from Russian oligarch to singer to PR go-between to lawyer to Trump scion, which is more plausible? That Don Jr. was canny enough to coordinate a global plot to rig the election but not canny enough to notice that this plot was detailed in his personal emails? Or that some Russians took advantage of a political naif named Trump in an unsuccessful bid to undermine the Magnitsky law they hated?"

Some WSJ logic. A trait that eludes those afflicted with TDS.
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(07-12-2017 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
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(07-11-2017 05:52 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Absolutely pathetic that Republicans don't care that we have a sitting President who is very susceptible to blackmail. How stupid can you be? He is compromised beyond redemption at this point.

Clinton was not susceptible to blackmail? How stupid were the dems that did not vote for impeachment.
You wanted Al Gore?

I'm not proud to admit that I voted for Al Gore in 2000, even though I thought Sen. Bill Bradley should've been the nominee.
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https://spectator.org/the-american-lefts...rd-spiral/

"I have returned! From Europe that is, and I hope I met with no Russian undercover agents while there. The soi-disant Liberals are in a snit about the Russians. Apparently, Donald Trump Jr. and the mysterious Jared Kushner met with an undercover agent of the Kremlin in June of last year, and they did not report their meeting to The Powers That Be. Who are The Powers That Be? Actually, I have no idea, but Trump and Kushner should have reported their exchange, which had something to do with adoption or adaption or possibly Hillary’s unwashed socks. You figure it out.

The stalwarts of American left (we no longer call them Liberals — it is inappropriate) are in another of their tense moments with the Trumps, and, of course, it has something to do with the Trumps and the Russians. The left has developed an irrational fear of the Russians, about whom they are positively obsessive. I am not sure why this is. Perhaps it is because today the Russians are no longer communists, and the erstwhile Liberals had long admired certain aspects of the communist system. As I recall, they admired the Marxist-Leninist tax code, and its attendant slow-growth economy. Remember their great economists such as John Kenneth Galbraith and Lester Thurow, oohing and aahing over how prosperous Russia was in the 1980s, just before the crash of communism?

How did that crash come about, comrades? Was it caused by something Ronald Reagan did? Reagan was the Donald Trump of his era. Are our friends to the left still perplexed as to how a grade B movie actor contributed to the fall of communism? Now what can they be expecting from a billionaire businessman?

The morbid preoccupations of the American left continue apace. Of course, there is their aforementioned paranoia over post-communist Russia. And there is the environment that is increasingly sickening them; and the civil rights of public toilet users in certain red states; and civil rights in general. The KKK is making a comeback and they are aided and abetted by the increasingly popular alt-right movement and the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy who object the expurgation of five years of American history back in the 19th century. Then there is the Resistance Movement that has been a theme with the American left ever since Hillary Clinton had her meltdown election night.

As David Gelernter pointed out last week in the Wall Street Journal, the American left has adopted “resistance” in response to Trump’s election in a free and democratic election. As Gelernter wrote: “Democrats, in their role as opponents of President Trump, have taken to calling themselves ‘the resistance.’” They are co-opting the term “resistance” from the free French who in World War II were opposing, as Gelernter says, “the Nazis in occupied France.” In their delusions the members of the American left are modern-day Freedom Fighters and the Trumps are Nazis. Continuing the left’s fantasy, the American army and its allies will eventually be called in to liberate “the resistance.” And who will march down our Champs-Élysées, Hillary?

I saw my first member of the resistance at Brussels airport wearing his black tee shirt with “Resistance” boldly emblazoned across our hero’s chest. He was asleep. I did not want to awaken him with troubling news. His fly was halfway down....  "
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(07-12-2017 09:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/keystone-ko...1499814375

"...In the daisy chain from Russian oligarch to singer to PR go-between to lawyer to Trump scion, which is more plausible? That Don Jr. was canny enough to coordinate a global plot to rig the election but not canny enough to notice that this plot was detailed in his personal emails? Or that some Russians took advantage of a political naif named Trump in an unsuccessful bid to undermine the Magnitsky law they hated?"

Some WSJ logic. A trait that eludes those afflicted with TDS.

Yeah... the left talks about how stupid and incompetent Trump and his family members are, but they've somehow been able to mastermind the greatest heist in the history of the world, EVEN over the Republican establishment and leave nothing but whispers.
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(07-11-2017 10:58 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Learn righties to link your stuff too. Kronke ever give us his 3 credible sources. I don't mislead boys. I'm disageeeable but always honest.

So give us your honest opinion on the DNC's collaboration with the Ukranians to influence the presidential election.
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/20...lusion.php

Or your definition of collusion. Which, Jr.'s acts don't meet. Receiving information is not collusion (not that he met with anyone who even had information).
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funny how all of the sudden all of the libtards have disappear...
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...still not collusion...
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When this is all done and finished, there will not be one substantive charge of illegality against Trump or his team. And I suspect that, in their hearts, the proglodytes know that. But they think that as long as these questions dominate the news cycles, that somehow Trump won't get to work on his agenda. What they seem to miss, is that the judiciary is being overhauled and regulations are being overturned. It still is likely that a tax cut will get enacted and something will get done on health care insurance.

But I do doubt that this is likely to pass as there is likely to be an never ending parade of anonymous sources quoted in the NYT and WaPo trying to create
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(07-12-2017 11:02 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  When this is all done and finished, there will not be one substantive charge of illegality against Trump or his team. And I suspect that, in their hearts, the proglodytes know that. But they think that as long as these questions dominate the news cycles, that somehow Trump won't get to work on his agenda. What they seem to miss, is that the judiciary is being overhauled and regulations are being overturned. It still is likely that a tax cut will get enacted and something will get done on health care insurance.

But I do doubt that this is likely to pass as there is likely to be an never ending parade of anonymous sources quoted in the NYT and WaPo trying to create

Well the media has already been caught saying nothing is there and that there sole purpose is to try to stop Trump.

CNN has done incalculable damage to their brand. The NYT has done serious damage. WaPo has as well.
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Pictures of her at #Resistance marches going around with posters about muh vuhgina and American flag hajibs.

Soros operative? Did they try to set up Don Jr. (American patriot), hoping he would talk about sanctions, but Don Jr. (being the patriot that he is) didn't give them any red meat, so they went with this weak story?

I do find it hilarious that in just a few short hours, the narrative has flipped from "TREASON!" to "Not illegal, but troubling!".
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At what point will the left all stop saying, "Now we got 'em!"
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(07-12-2017 12:25 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  At what point will the left all stop saying, "Now we got 'em!"

About 8 years after the next democrat president's term ends.
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They've been so honest so far. I can see why you guys can trust him on the meeting was nothing.
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(07-12-2017 12:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  They've been so honest so far. I can see why you guys can trust him on the meeting was nothing.

Mach, you and the MSM are chasing the boogey man right now. I get it, the more you spout it out, the more it has to be true and will be believed by the American people. Nah....frankly, I don't give a crap about this issue.
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Makes perfect sense. You're just being reasonable.
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