(04-11-2017 11:54 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:49 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:49 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:47 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  That's your problem, baby. You hate the game.

These are all adults in a multi-billion dollar business.

That's just the way the game is played.

Danny Manning's dad and Mario Chalmers' dad and DaJuan Wagner's dad and the Porter kid going to Mizzou because Cuonzo hired his dad, and more.

And if you aren't hiring a parent, you're getting them a better job, some swag, helping out with the bills, etc.

I get the game. His demands were too much for the current coach. He played the game by giving him a 20k raise... he just wanted more

That's the game, baby.

And the dipshit gave up $120k for his pride... he might not be too good st the game himself

So you mad he made money and now you mad he gave up money

GTFOH

elephant in the room

(04-11-2017 12:13 PM)mborotiger Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:59 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:57 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:56 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:54 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  So you mad he made money and now you mad he gave up money

GTFOH

No, I just think he is a dumb***... he had a good deal, but pissed it away... he'll be a hot prospect when it comes time to sell his next two kids

Sensitive

No, just a realist. This guy is old news. At least I have a job still..

I'm thinking he will be just fine.

Probably so...

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:54 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  Some of you in this thread are a complete joke. The man said that his kids decided to go to Memphis to help their dad achieve his goal. He said that they would stay if things stayed as promised. The boys going to Kansas is all because the Memphis program is in no position to help them achieve their goals and the program went back on their word to their father.

He also said that he was ready to bring not only his kids but other Memphis kids into the program because he spent the time and built the relationships. We had a gold mine in Keelon Lawson and this stubborn old man came here and collapsed the mine for what??? So his alcoholic son could be on the staff and not do a damn thing. If u want to go around slandering peoples name at least have some proof of what you claim.

I don't see how you people can keep downing this family when its blatantly clear its something wrong within the basketball program. Maybe had someone forced Josh to get a former coach on his staff sooner things wouldn't have spun out of control under him. Maybe had someone told Tubby that he had to keep Keelon as an assistant maybe tubby turns down the job and we get someone who actually cares about turning this program around.

After hearing him on Parrish all of these lies people have conjured up about him should be shut down cause they were based on assumptions and were proven to be wrong.

I'm not "downing" the kids, I'm "downing" their POS pimp dad. He extorted Memphis more than once when he didn't get what he wanted (money and job). No one on either staff wanted him, but hired him because he was pimping his kids. Sorry, I have zero respect for a guy like that. They were paying that fool $120k for doing nothing, but he thought he should be an assistant...

Tell me all about the kids Keelon brought to Memphis (other than his kids). What a loser...

I'm glad Tubby put him in the corner.

Did you not even listen to the interview??? He said a school offered him 300k for the boys and he said no. How much are we paying Pooh and Saul??? They have contributed 0 players Keelon assured you 5 players ranked higher than anyone this staff had ever signed how do you just throw that away??? There is no proof that they can recruit players good enough to play here.

He literally said he was ready this year to bring players in to play for Memphis the same Memphis kids that they are now not going to get. You think Alex Lomax is coming here now??? We'll be lucky to get one Memphis kid for the rest of Tubby's tenure. Then he'll feed you with the Memphis kids don't wanna stay home BS anymore like he said earlier in the year, which any true Memphis fan knows is a LIE.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT PENNY SAID .

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:45 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:43 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:38 AM)mborotiger Wrote:  Yeah he should have showed some morals and kept his $60,000 high school job instead of accepting his dream job...

How about earning that dream job? How about not leveraging your kids? Others have got that dream job on their own merits.

You can say what you want about Saul. I don't think it was a good hire. But we are talking about Keelon, a guy that admitted his kids would be a Memphis if they met his demands. I just find that f'd up..

Ever stop and think that maybe Dedric and KJ love and support their father and didn't like how he was treated by the administration at Memphis? Had he been treated right, maybe they would have wanted to stay.

Man.. they treated him with a 20k raise...

So the "pimp"- your word for another human who helped Memphis btw- wouldn't take more money to stay and keep his kids here. Which somehow makes him a pimp? Right.

In your delusion, Memphis was the only school willing to give a qualified coach a job to get his sons here. It's a legal way to get several top 50 players in school and we were the only school to offer it...riiight

Define "qualified coach" for us.

(04-11-2017 04:06 PM)rssumme Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:45 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:43 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  How about earning that dream job? How about not leveraging your kids? Others have got that dream job on their own merits.

You can say what you want about Saul. I don't think it was a good hire. But we are talking about Keelon, a guy that admitted his kids would be a Memphis if they met his demands. I just find that f'd up..

Ever stop and think that maybe Dedric and KJ love and support their father and didn't like how he was treated by the administration at Memphis? Had he been treated right, maybe they would have wanted to stay.

Man.. they treated him with a 20k raise...

So the "pimp"- your word for another human who helped Memphis btw- wouldn't take more money to stay and keep his kids here. Which somehow makes him a pimp? Right.

In your delusion, Memphis was the only school willing to give a qualified coach a job to get his sons here. It's a legal way to get several top 50 players in school and we were the only school to offer it...riiight

Define "qualified coach" for us.

Not Saul Smith.

Next.

(04-11-2017 04:08 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 04:06 PM)rssumme Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:45 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  Ever stop and think that maybe Dedric and KJ love and support their father and didn't like how he was treated by the administration at Memphis? Had he been treated right, maybe they would have wanted to stay.

Man.. they treated him with a 20k raise...

So the "pimp"- your word for another human who helped Memphis btw- wouldn't take more money to stay and keep his kids here. Which somehow makes him a pimp? Right.

In your delusion, Memphis was the only school willing to give a qualified coach a job to get his sons here. It's a legal way to get several top 50 players in school and we were the only school to offer it...riiight

Define "qualified coach" for us.

Not Saul Smith.

Next.

That's fair. And accurate. And unfortunate.

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:49 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:49 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:47 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:43 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  But we are talking about Keelon, a guy that admitted his kids would be a Memphis if they met his demands. I just find that f'd up..

That's your problem, baby. You hate the game.

These are all adults in a multi-billion dollar business.

That's just the way the game is played.

Danny Manning's dad and Mario Chalmers' dad and DaJuan Wagner's dad and the Porter kid going to Mizzou because Cuonzo hired his dad, and more.

And if you aren't hiring a parent, you're getting them a better job, some swag, helping out with the bills, etc.

I get the game. His demands were too much for the current coach. He played the game by giving him a 20k raise... he just wanted more

That's the game, baby.

And the dipshit gave up $120k for his pride... he might not be too good st the game himself

How you can say Tubby is faultless in this is beyond me...

Secondly if Lawson was mistreated during the year I am sure some of it was his own doing...If Lawson is being honest saying he wanted to leave when he got demoted you can be sure he wasn't the most pleasant person to work with and you can bet his sons knew it.

So yeah Tubby started the fire but Lawson is far from an angel in this as well.

Bottom line this is Tubbys ship and he had a chance not to allow this to happen and he chose to start a fire to try and build a legacy for his son...He should have waited and Chandler was on campus before promoting Saul .