I hope Tubby turns it around.

Today wasn't a good day for him.

(04-05-2017 02:38 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree and understand your stance. But I also appreciate him giving all three a year to earn their spots and determine their own legacy.

Why cut bait at all? A good coach AND PEOPLE PERSON (Cal) would have sat everyone down and said this is the way it's going to be in a nice but firm way, taken them to dinner, got to know everyone personally and they would play/work their ass off for him.

Short version. Anyone who supervises high level people know what I mean.

(04-05-2017 08:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 02:38 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree and understand your stance. But I also appreciate him giving all three a year to earn their spots and determine their own legacy.

Why cut bait at all? A good coach AND PEOPLE PERSON (Cal) would have sat everyone down and said this is the way it's going to be in a nice but firm way, taken them to dinner, got to know everyone personally and they would play/work their ass off for him.

Short version. Anyone who supervises high level people know what I mean.

I do not disagree.

(04-05-2017 08:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:01 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 07:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree. I think he probably over-estimated what the players could do for this team, and underestimated the challenges from the whole dynamic.

Wish he would have done it then, but it is what it is.

I'm thinking he wasn't given that option when he was hired. Whoever wanted to keep that arrangement was probably just out voted -- but at least they're six figures better off financially, now.

Who FORCED Tubby to agree to become the HC at Memphis. Donna? His agent? Odd that a 60 year old man would be forced to accept a job when he already had one.

Of course, though, we have heard today that Keelon was on his way to Georgia Tech until Tubby persuaded him to stay. I guess that was after he was forced to take the job at Memphis.

Not the way it happened according to his family.

(04-05-2017 08:27 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:01 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 07:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree. I think he probably over-estimated what the players could do for this team, and underestimated the challenges from the whole dynamic.

Wish he would have done it then, but it is what it is.

I'm thinking he wasn't given that option when he was hired. Whoever wanted to keep that arrangement was probably just out voted -- but at least they're six figures better off financially, now.

Who FORCED Tubby to agree to become the HC at Memphis. Donna? His agent? Odd that a 60 year old man would be forced to accept a job when he already had one.

Of course, though, we have heard today that Keelon was on his way to Georgia Tech until Tubby persuaded him to stay. I guess that was after he was forced to take the job at Memphis.

Not the way it happened according to his family.

That is what was relayed today, you have different info?

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:27 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  He doesn't want any of Pastner's players and he doesn't want any players from Memphis. He is clearly going to do it his way and doesn't give a sh!t what the fanbase thinks or says. All I gotta say is he better replace Keelon with a damn good recruiter because we have no players, like literally

If that is the case, I'm fine with it.

Yup. Let the man run the show, as he was hired to do. Totally agree. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AT ALL MAJOR PROGRAMS.

(04-05-2017 02:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 02:13 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:27 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  He doesn't want any of Pastner's players and he doesn't want any players from Memphis. He is clearly going to do it his way and doesn't give a sh!t what the fanbase thinks or says. All I gotta say is he better replace Keelon with a damn good recruiter because we have no players, like literally

If that is the case, I'm fine with it.

For all of you saying you are fine with Tubby's "plan"-when we are 10-21 next year (unless we schedule ALL patsies OOC); we will see how you react next year when reality sets in and we are losing 2 of 3 games we play and there are 2-3K are at the games. I will also guess most of you that are fine with it are football first fans and see basketball as a secondary sport.

That's been every schedule for the last 5 yrs with a very few exceptions. I actually expect some OOC schedule improvement over the next couple of years. But hold tight to that 10-21 prediction so we can remind you of your prophetic wisdom.

(04-05-2017 08:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 02:38 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree and understand your stance. But I also appreciate him giving all three a year to earn their spots and determine their own legacy.

Why cut bait at all? A good coach AND PEOPLE PERSON (Cal) would have sat everyone down and said this is the way it's going to be in a nice but firm way, taken them to dinner, got to know everyone personally and they would play/work their ass off for him.

Short version. Anyone who supervises high level people know what I mean.

Sit 'em down, stroke 'em, be nice but firm, dinner, etc. Lordy. Really? That's funny. Unrealistic, but funny.

(04-05-2017 08:29 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:27 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  He doesn't want any of Pastner's players and he doesn't want any players from Memphis. He is clearly going to do it his way and doesn't give a sh!t what the fanbase thinks or says. All I gotta say is he better replace Keelon with a damn good recruiter because we have no players, like literally

If that is the case, I'm fine with it.

Yup. Let the man run the show, as he was hired to do. Totally agree. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AT ALL MAJOR PROGRAMS.

This!

(04-05-2017 08:39 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:29 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:27 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  He doesn't want any of Pastner's players and he doesn't want any players from Memphis. He is clearly going to do it his way and doesn't give a sh!t what the fanbase thinks or says. All I gotta say is he better replace Keelon with a damn good recruiter because we have no players, like literally

If that is the case, I'm fine with it.

Yup. Let the man run the show, as he was hired to do. Totally agree. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AT ALL MAJOR PROGRAMS.

This!

Enjoy watching the worst team in decades hit the floor next year and get it's brains beat out by every decent team it plays.

(04-05-2017 08:37 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 02:38 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:32 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  That's all fine and good but why wait a year to do this?

Shoulda cut bait from the start

I agree and understand your stance. But I also appreciate him giving all three a year to earn their spots and determine their own legacy.

Why cut bait at all? A good coach AND PEOPLE PERSON (Cal) would have sat everyone down and said this is the way it's going to be in a nice but firm way, taken them to dinner, got to know everyone personally and they would play/work their ass off for him.

Short version. Anyone who supervises high level people know what I mean.

Sit 'em down, stroke 'em, be nice but firm, dinner, etc. Lordy. Really? That's funny. Unrealistic, but funny.

Foolproof recipe. Works every time. As long as they have multi-year contracts with no buyouts, and no other job prospects.

(04-05-2017 08:39 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:29 PM)Hoots Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:27 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  He doesn't want any of Pastner's players and he doesn't want any players from Memphis. He is clearly going to do it his way and doesn't give a sh!t what the fanbase thinks or says. All I gotta say is he better replace Keelon with a damn good recruiter because we have no players, like literally

If that is the case, I'm fine with it.

Yup. Let the man run the show, as he was hired to do. Totally agree. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AT ALL MAJOR PROGRAMS.

This!

But what everyone from GP, Geoff, and the media, to Cal and Tubby himself, have acknowledged that this job is different. You've got to get out and promote the program. You have to build relationships with local hs and AAU coaches. It has become pretty obvious through his actions and other accounts from those in the know that he hasn't done either.

If you want a blueprint for how this should be done just look at Mike Norvell and his staff.