(03-02-2017 09:06 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:34 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He met with the Russian ambassador twice during campaign? Why? I'm starting to see Russians in my sleep. They've infiltrated our system. There's too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...76f0bb2a2a

Because he was a FRICKIN' ARMED FORCES COMMITTEE SENATOR!!!

This is getting STUPIDLY ridiculous by the Democrats and the media

Oh my god... a SITTING us senator (who admittedly did support Trump) during the campaign meets with the Russian ambassador while doing.. you know... HIS FRICKIN' JOB!!!

Pretty sure Sessions has had an R next to his name for some time now, too. The lunatic left apparently is surprised he would support Trump.

(03-02-2017 02:49 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It was the lead on Huffington Post. Look it up like 10 generals said no actionable intelligence. The raid was Fubar. Incompetence at the top. Then they used the widow as a prop at the SOTU. It's not good guys. I feel horrible about it and for the family. If the situation were reversed we would have a Benghazi like trial and we would find that Trump was incompetent. It's terrible.

You know it was planned during zerO admin and only got greenlighted when it did due to the first moonless night, right?

I covered this the other day...maybe you missed it.

Aside from the fact that Trump is the CIC and it matters not at all what Obama did or did not plan any way, Trump merely okaying it would constitute gross negligence on his part.

How long has Trump told us that Obama does not know what he's doing...specifically with the war on terror? How he's feckless and incompetent, etc?

So Trump is going to blindly take a plan Obama drew up and say "run with it boys" with no further thought?

Trump was not even in the situation room during the raid. Instead, he was tweeting out, and correcting that tweet, about his next media appearance. That's really how you want a new president to handle his first significant military operation?

You guys falling in line and worshiping everything Trump does now is just pathetic. You told us for eight years how Obama needed to stop blaming Bush and take responsibility for things and yadda yadda yadda. And now? Puhleeze!

"They lost Ryan" ~ DJT. Now that's a real response from a man of integrity there AMIRITE?

(03-02-2017 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So Trump is going to blindly take a plan Obama drew up and say "run with it boys" with no further thought?

you think Obama drew up the plan?

(03-02-2017 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 02:49 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It was the lead on Huffington Post. Look it up like 10 generals said no actionable intelligence. The raid was Fubar. Incompetence at the top. Then they used the widow as a prop at the SOTU. It's not good guys. I feel horrible about it and for the family. If the situation were reversed we would have a Benghazi like trial and we would find that Trump was incompetent. It's terrible.

You know it was planned during zerO admin and only got greenlighted when it did due to the first moonless night, right?

I covered this the other day...maybe you missed it.

Aside from the fact that Trump is the CIC and it matters not at all what Obama did or did not plan any way, Trump merely okaying it would constitute gross negligence on his part.

How long has Trump told us that Obama does not know what he's doing...specifically with the war on terror? How he's feckless and incompetent, etc?

So Trump is going to blindly take a plan Obama drew up and say "run with it boys" with no further thought?

Trump was not even in the situation room during the raid. Instead, he was tweeting out, and correcting that tweet, about his next media appearance. That's really how you want a new president to handle his first significant military operation?

You guys falling in line and worshiping everything Trump does now is just pathetic. You told us for eight years how Obama needed to stop blaming Bush and take responsibility for things and yadda yadda yadda. And now? Puhleeze!

"They lost Ryan" ~ DJT. Now that's a real response from a man of integrity there AMIRITE?

cons in 2009-2016: it doesn't matter what Obama inherited, Bush isn't in office anymore.

cons in 2017: But Obama planned that raid!!!!

cons in 2009: Obama shouldn't get credit for ending the war in iraq, Bush planned the troop removal!!!

Cons in 2014-2017: Obama ended the war in iraq. that was all his fault. he is terrible for planning the removal of troops from iraq which created ISIS.

Cons in 2011: Obama didn't kill bin laden, that was the military. only the military should get credit for the outcome of a raid

cons in 2017: trump didn't kill a seal. that was Obama. Obama is responsible for the outcome of a raid

L O f***ing L.

You are going to need electroshock therapy before the midterms.

Remember when the Obama white house openly interfered with the election in Israel? I member. Where was the outrage by the left then? BUT THE SANCTITY OF THE ELECTORAL PROCESS IS AT STAKE!!!!!!

Would be cool if our democrat legislators would actually you know, legislate, rather than chase this magic dragon every day.

I member

(03-02-2017 03:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 02:49 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It was the lead on Huffington Post. Look it up like 10 generals said no actionable intelligence. The raid was Fubar. Incompetence at the top. Then they used the widow as a prop at the SOTU. It's not good guys. I feel horrible about it and for the family. If the situation were reversed we would have a Benghazi like trial and we would find that Trump was incompetent. It's terrible.

You know it was planned during zerO admin and only got greenlighted when it did due to the first moonless night, right?

I covered this the other day...maybe you missed it.

Aside from the fact that Trump is the CIC and it matters not at all what Obama did or did not plan any way, Trump merely okaying it would constitute gross negligence on his part.

How long has Trump told us that Obama does not know what he's doing...specifically with the war on terror? How he's feckless and incompetent, etc?

So Trump is going to blindly take a plan Obama drew up and say "run with it boys" with no further thought?

Trump was not even in the situation room during the raid. Instead, he was tweeting out, and correcting that tweet, about his next media appearance. That's really how you want a new president to handle his first significant military operation?

You guys falling in line and worshiping everything Trump does now is just pathetic. You told us for eight years how Obama needed to stop blaming Bush and take responsibility for things and yadda yadda yadda. And now? Puhleeze!

"They lost Ryan" ~ DJT. Now that's a real response from a man of integrity there AMIRITE?

cons in 2009-2016: it doesn't matter what Obama inherited, Bush isn't in office anymore.

again, stop with the lies.

(03-02-2017 03:13 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You are going to need electroshock therapy before the midterms.

Luckily we've got the man for the job.

(03-02-2017 03:06 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So Trump is going to blindly take a plan Obama drew up and say "run with it boys" with no further thought?

you think Obama drew up the plan?

Yes. from his blackberry... on the gulf course.... the great Obama..multi tasks...

God I miss his gloriousness.. so glad he runs a shadow government with that patriot Valerie Jarrett...

(03-02-2017 03:13 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Remember when the Obama white house openly interfered with the election in Israel? I member. Where was the outrage by the left then? BUT THE SANCTITY OF THE ELECTORAL PROCESS IS AT STAKE!!!!!!

Would be cool if our democrat legislators would actually you know, legislate, rather than chase this magic dragon every day.

is the magic dragon in Obama's pants?

MUH PUTIN

(03-02-2017 02:42 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 02:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 08:03 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That's why the House and Senate don't want to investigate it. There's nothing there????? Remember that beauty from the other day. The House Intel Chair? They know they collaborated with the Russians in the hacking. No other explanation.

What hacking?

Falling for a phishing scam because you hired some Middle Eastern flunkies to run your IT department.

Lol

The true stuff is much more astonishing

(03-02-2017 01:20 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday accused FBI Director James Comey of withholding crucial information about its probe into Russian interference in the election.

"I would say at this point we know less than a fraction of what the FBI knows,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) told reporters after a briefing with Comey.

“I appreciate we had a long briefing and testimony from the director today, but in order for us to do our investigation in a thorough and credible way, we're gonna need the FBI to fully cooperate, to be willing to tell us the length and breadth of any counterintelligence investigations they are conducting,” Schiff said. “At this point, the director was not willing to do that.”

The briefing came as Attorney General Jeff Sessions is facing calls to recuse himself from an investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia after it was revealed that Sessions met twice with the Russia ambassador last year, and didn’t tell senators about it during his confirmation hearing.

Schiff indicated that Comey and the Justice Department should be more cooperative and forthcoming at their next meeting “because we’re gonna need that information.”

“And we’re better off getting that through the voluntary cooperation of the FBI than having to contemplate whether we need to subpoena the FBI,” he said.

Mach, or any of your fellow lefty travelers, serious question:

Let's just go with the Rooskies were behind the release of the DNC emails after Podesta clicked on that hotlink, k? No evidence of that, but we'll go with it:

How many votes, or voters do you really think that may have influenced? Do you honestly think some large # of H> voters read that inside baseball drivel and said "Yup, that's it. Podesta thinks shes an aimless, crappy candidate, and CNN talking head was feeding H> the debate questions in advance. So now I'm switching to Trump." Really?

I'd put that number somewhere between larger than zero, and smaller than 4 figures. I'd further bet my lunch money that fewer than 20% of the entire electorate was even paying attention to, or had any idea about reading internal DNC emails.

This entire thing is such a nothing-burger it's amusing.

The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming!!! lol

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4000187673

(03-02-2017 03:13 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Remember when the Obama white house openly interfered with the election in Israel? I member. Where was the outrage by the left then? BUT THE SANCTITY OF THE ELECTORAL PROCESS IS AT STAKE!!!!!!

Would be cool if our democrat legislators would actually you know, legislate, rather than chase this magic dragon every day.

No. They didn't. One guy who used to work for Obama went to work for a guy in Israel. That was the extent of the interfering.

Try harder.

(03-02-2017 03:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  MUH PUTIN

So two wrongs make a right then. Got it. Thanks.

(03-02-2017 03:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:20 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday accused FBI Director James Comey of withholding crucial information about its probe into Russian interference in the election.

"I would say at this point we know less than a fraction of what the FBI knows,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) told reporters after a briefing with Comey.

“I appreciate we had a long briefing and testimony from the director today, but in order for us to do our investigation in a thorough and credible way, we're gonna need the FBI to fully cooperate, to be willing to tell us the length and breadth of any counterintelligence investigations they are conducting,” Schiff said. “At this point, the director was not willing to do that.”

The briefing came as Attorney General Jeff Sessions is facing calls to recuse himself from an investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia after it was revealed that Sessions met twice with the Russia ambassador last year, and didn’t tell senators about it during his confirmation hearing.

Schiff indicated that Comey and the Justice Department should be more cooperative and forthcoming at their next meeting “because we’re gonna need that information.”

“And we’re better off getting that through the voluntary cooperation of the FBI than having to contemplate whether we need to subpoena the FBI,” he said.

Mach, or any of your fellow lefty travelers, serious question:

Let's just go with the Ruskies were behind the release of the DNC emails after Podesta clicked on that hotlink, k? No evidence of that, but we'll go with it:

How many votes, or voters do you really think that may have influenced? Do you honestly think some large # of H> voters read that inside baseball drivel and said "Yup, that's it. Podesta thinks shes an aimless, crappy candidate, and CNN talking head was feeding H> the debate questions in advance. So now I'm switching to Trump." Really?

I'd put that number somewhere between larger than zero, and smaller than 4 figures. I'd further bet my lunch money that fewer than 20% of the entire electorate was even paying attention to, or had any idea about reading internal DNC emails.

This entire thing is such a nothing-burger it's amusing.

The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming!!! lol

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4000187673

I mean...everyone already knew HRC and her minions were complete unredeemable scuzbags

(03-02-2017 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:30 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  I highly doubt perjury would stick. He may resign but he shouldnt. It was a misstatement due to the context of the question.

The left is whipping itself into a frenzy over what is the equivalent of 911 truthers or Obama birthers.

They can't handle the reality of losing the election, and they're grasping at any possibility of catching anybody in the Trump administration on a technicality.

This is the popular meme among the right. By the way, it's complete nonsense. You guys and your new leader are the only ones still litigating the election.

Believe it or not, we're concerned that some in our government may actually be compromised by Russia.

Well in that case we're concerned that so many people are mentally deranged or too gullible to understand that the DNC is just playing a game and y'all are following along.

Careful.

And sorry, the DNC doesn't have a thing to do with this.

This guy has a LOT to do with it!

so are any cons going to address this?

(03-02-2017 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  MUH PUTIN

So two wrongs make a right then. Got it. Thanks.

She's a spy! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(03-02-2017 03:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 01:20 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday accused FBI Director James Comey of withholding crucial information about its probe into Russian interference in the election.

"I would say at this point we know less than a fraction of what the FBI knows,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) told reporters after a briefing with Comey.

“I appreciate we had a long briefing and testimony from the director today, but in order for us to do our investigation in a thorough and credible way, we're gonna need the FBI to fully cooperate, to be willing to tell us the length and breadth of any counterintelligence investigations they are conducting,” Schiff said. “At this point, the director was not willing to do that.”

The briefing came as Attorney General Jeff Sessions is facing calls to recuse himself from an investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia after it was revealed that Sessions met twice with the Russia ambassador last year, and didn’t tell senators about it during his confirmation hearing.

Schiff indicated that Comey and the Justice Department should be more cooperative and forthcoming at their next meeting “because we’re gonna need that information.”

“And we’re better off getting that through the voluntary cooperation of the FBI than having to contemplate whether we need to subpoena the FBI,” he said.

Mach, or any of your fellow lefty travelers, serious question:

Let's just go with the Ruskies were behind the release of the DNC emails after Podesta clicked on that hotlink, k? No evidence of that, but we'll go with it:

How many votes, or voters do you really think that may have influenced? Do you honestly think some large # of H> voters read that inside baseball drivel and said "Yup, that's it. Podesta thinks shes an aimless, crappy candidate, and CNN talking head was feeding H> the debate questions in advance. So now I'm switching to Trump." Really?

I'd put that number somewhere between larger than zero, and smaller than 4 figures. I'd further bet my lunch money that fewer than 20% of the entire electorate was even paying attention to, or had any idea about reading internal DNC emails.

This entire thing is such a nothing-burger it's amusing.

The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming!!! lol

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4000187673

They didn't necessarily have to shift to Trump. And if you don't think the Podesta stuff turned some Hillary voters into Johnson or Stein voters, you're delusional. Now, was it enough to swing the election alone? Who knows, but it certainly played a role. I put the role more in the camp of swaying those who felt like the DNC was in cahoots to smear Sanders more than painting H as not a good candidate.