He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

(02-06-2017 03:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

Why does that matter whose fault it is? An attack is an attack. To make this a bragging right is really quite sick. Do you not think a terrorist can get in from another country?

Typical Trump voter where reason defies logic.

(02-06-2017 03:24 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 03:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

Why does that matter whose fault it is? An attack is an attack. To make this a bragging right is really quite sick. Do you not think a terrorist can get in from another country?

I'm speaking of terrorist attack and those that commit it. Unbelievable horrible and measures can be taken to help reduce the risk. Not on President Trump if something happens again if your not willing to allow him to enact the measures he deams best to secure the Nation.

I don't think any attack should be blamed on the president. No matter who is in the White House. Unless there is direct evidence they did something to cause it. Like override policy or went against known info at that time.

Immigration will not stop for the USA. That is a fact and when you have people coming into the country there is always the possibility someone that wants to do harm will get past all the check points in place to stop them. No matter who's in the White House.

In most cases the FBI or one of the counter terrorist agency are the ones that have the chance to stop the act before it happens. Which I believe they do just about every week of the year.

But no one can stop all people that want to harm others

The left has made their bed, and they will lie in it if a bad hombre sneaks in and commits an attack while they have Trump's EO tied up in court.

(02-06-2017 03:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

Preemptive excuses?

Now I've seen it all.

Responsibility.

I was going to expound but really, the word carries its own weight.

President Trump understands that.

You guys act as if his EO is 100% fool proof. You honestly think that it is going to stop every terrorist threat? Lets say that the his EO is restarted and a year or so from now we have a terrorist attack in the U.S. What are you going say then? You going blame the left for that? You going give Trump a pass because he tried to set up measures to protect out country but some still got in?

(02-06-2017 03:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 03:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

Preemptive excuses?

Now I've seen it all.

That's exactly what it is.

(02-06-2017 03:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 03:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  He is doing everything he can. Any terrorist attack on US soil will be done by someone who was here before President Trump or was able to get in against President Trump's best efforts. That is not something any prior President can claim.

Preemptive excuses?

Now I've seen it all.

I totally understand. Back at ya.

That's exactly what it is. Nothing is going to be his fault. When he screws up this stupid wall, it will be Mexico's fault. When he screws up national security, it will be Obama's fault. When he screws up healthcare – don't even get me started. When he screws up the economy, that too will be someone else's fault.

Nothing is ever the fault of Teflon Donald.

You know you're in trouble and you have his advisers blatantly lying left and right and then becoming indignant when people pull out photos proving that they are lying. They've already made up all kinds of silly things like massacres that never actually happened and the size of the inauguration crowd.

And yet nobody cares. They didn't want Hillary because she's a liar (and she is) but when this dude lies, it's because he's tough and sometimes you have to lie so as not to show your hand or something goofy like that.

Whatever!

Eventually, the smart people will figure this out. Others will tie themselves into knots to deny common sense to justify their earlier poor decisions. However, it is been my experience that in most instances, con men eventually are exposed.

I'm not a liberal either so if you want to blast Those Damn Liberals, have at it. I'm not even a Democrat. However, I am a rational thinking American and I can see what's happening here. People had to choose between two hideous choices and they chose the one I thought was the least hideous. Now, there are some people that want to try to elevate him and the answer is no. He is still the same awful choice he has been for the past few years and I'm not going to pretend otherwise regardless of his or my political leanings.

(02-06-2017 04:33 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's exactly what it is. Nothing is going to be his fault. When he screws up this stupid wall, it will be Mexico's fault. When he screws up national security, it will be Obama's fault. When he screws up healthcare – don't even get me started. When he screws up the economy, that too will be someone else's fault.

Nothing is ever the fault of Teflon Donald.

You know you're in trouble and you have his advisers blatantly lying left and right and then becoming indignant when people pull out photos proving that they are lying. They've already made up all kinds of silly things like massacres that never actually happened and the size of the inauguration crowd.

And yet nobody cares. They didn't want Hillary because she's a liar (and she is) but when this dude lies, it's because he's tough and sometimes you have to lie so as not to show your hand or something goofy like that.

Whatever!

Eventually, the smart people will figure this out. Others will tie themselves into knots to deny common sense to justify their earlier poor decisions. However, it is been my experience that in most instances, con men eventually are exposed.

I'm not a liberal either so if you want to blast Those Damn Liberals, have at it. I'm not even a Democrat. However, I am a rational thinking American and I can see what's happening here. People had to choose between two hideous choices and they chose the one I thought was the least hideous. Now, there are some people that want to try to elevate him and the answer is no. He is still the same awful choice he has been for the past few years and I'm not going to pretend otherwise regardless of his or my political leanings.

Responsibility sucks doesn't it? At the very least, it ain't easy!

How bout we stick to blaming Islamic terrorists for their acts.*

*Or the liberals elusive white male supremacist bigot conservative Christian racist misogynistic Nazi anti everything Trump voter if he ever shows up.

We are more likely killed by the KKK, white supremacists groups, New Black Panthers, Neo-Nazis, drug dealers or street gangs like Chicago than from a terror attack.

(02-06-2017 04:33 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's exactly what it is. Nothing is going to be his fault. When he screws up this stupid wall, it will be Mexico's fault. When he screws up national security, it will be Obama's fault. When he screws up healthcare – don't even get me started. When he screws up the economy, that too will be someone else's fault.

Nothing is ever the fault of Teflon Donald.

You know you're in trouble and you have his advisers blatantly lying left and right and then becoming indignant when people pull out photos proving that they are lying. They've already made up all kinds of silly things like massacres that never actually happened and the size of the inauguration crowd.

And yet nobody cares. They didn't want Hillary because she's a liar (and she is) but when this dude lies, it's because he's tough and sometimes you have to lie so as not to show your hand or something goofy like that.

Whatever!

Eventually, the smart people will figure this out. Others will tie themselves into knots to deny common sense to justify their earlier poor decisions. However, it is been my experience that in most instances, con men eventually are exposed.

I'm not a liberal either so if you want to blast Those Damn Liberals, have at it. I'm not even a Democrat. However, I am a rational thinking American and I can see what's happening here. People had to choose between two hideous choices and they chose the one I thought was the least hideous. Now, there are some people that want to try to elevate him and the answer is no. He is still the same awful choice he has been for the past few years and I'm not going to pretend otherwise regardless of his or my political leanings.

Feel better? lol

Don't necessarily disagree with all your musings above, but one thing should be made clear.

It came down to two pretty awful choices, but that didn't just "happen". On the dim side, yea, it was preordained, or rigged, one may call it. The entire DNC hierarchy was in on it, the debate "moderators" were in on it, self-proclaimed Hacks, the print press was getting stories pre-screened and approved and layer after layer after layer.

The R side, had the largest, most qualified, most varied in experience field of choices to ever run for either major political party. By far. Not even close. And guess what?

President Trump beat 'em all. He didn't elect himself, the voters in 30 of the 50 States elected him. The largest Republican electoral margin of victory in nearly 30 years.

So unless your contention is that voters in 30 States and some ridiculous majority of Counties are all largely irrational, I think you may be missing much the same things the blithering morons that ran that awful campaign did.

It's not so much excusing him or what he may or may not do, it's refusing to continue to excuse what these people in DC have been doing now for a generation or more.

He's been in office 18 days, you giving up already?!? lol.

(02-06-2017 04:33 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's exactly what it is. Nothing is going to be his fault. When he screws up this stupid wall, it will be Mexico's fault. When he screws up national security, it will be Obama's fault. When he screws up healthcare – don't even get me started. When he screws up the economy, that too will be someone else's fault.

Nothing is ever the fault of Teflon Donald.

You know you're in trouble and you have his advisers blatantly lying left and right and then becoming indignant when people pull out photos proving that they are lying. They've already made up all kinds of silly things like massacres that never actually happened and the size of the inauguration crowd.

And yet nobody cares. They didn't want Hillary because she's a liar (and she is) but when this dude lies, it's because he's tough and sometimes you have to lie so as not to show your hand or something goofy like that.

Whatever!

Eventually, the smart people will figure this out. Others will tie themselves into knots to deny common sense to justify their earlier poor decisions. However, it is been my experience that in most instances, con men eventually are exposed.

I'm not a liberal either so if you want to blast Those Damn Liberals, have at it. I'm not even a Democrat. However, I am a rational thinking American and I can see what's happening here. People had to choose between two hideous choices and they chose the one I thought was the least hideous. Now, there are some people that want to try to elevate him and the answer is no. He is still the same awful choice he has been for the past few years and I'm not going to pretend otherwise regardless of his or my political leanings.

Awesome post and cool handle.

(02-06-2017 05:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  We are more likely killed by the KKK, white supremacists groups, New Black Panthers, Neo-Nazis, drug dealers or street gangs like Chicago than from a terror attack.

Do you sleep with your eyes open?!?

Please tell us of an incident or two from ANY of those groups other than the drug dealers and gang bangers in recent history.

You don't have to go back far at all to find massacres by Islamic terrorists.

(02-06-2017 05:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  We are more likely killed by the KKK, white supremacists groups, New Black Panthers, Neo-Nazis, drug dealers or street gangs like Chicago than from a terror attack.

Though we straighten you out on this bs once already.

Drug and gang killings happen. Those are crimes. You continue trying to inflate terrorists attacks by throwing in crimes. Not appropriate. Why don't you throw in accidents, heart attacks and old age why you're at it



For January, 2017

Attacks 195
Killed 1386
Injured 1644
Suicide Blasts 39
Countries 30

I'll let you supply the numbers of terrorist attacks committed by your KKK, white supremacists groups, New Black Panthers, and Neo-Nazis.

I'll give you a little help starting out:

Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the KKK has in the last 70 years (26 since 1945).

Bet I win.

(02-06-2017 03:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The left has made their bed, and they will lie in it if a bad hombre sneaks in and commits an attack while they have Trump's EO tied up in court.

probably the best time for one to sneak in, tbh.

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