(06-07-2020 11:48 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (06-07-2020 09:56 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (06-07-2020 07:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: From 2019 (Nature):
Quote: The results paint a picture of definite disparity when it comes to race and police shootings. Although more white people are shot in total, people from minority ethnic groups are shot at higher rates by population. One paper published in August found that a black man is 2.5 times more likely than a white man to be killed by the police during his lifetime...
Did the suspect have a weapon? Were officers or another civilian being threatened? In a 2017 study3, for example, Nix determined that black people fatally shot by the police were twice as likely as white people to be unarmed. Those findings align with many studies published since 2015 suggesting that racial biases do influence police shootings...
A 2017 study of data collected from the Dallas Police Department in Texas indicated that although race was not a significant factor in decisions to pull the trigger, Dallas officers were more likely to draw their firearms on minority suspects.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02601-9
Just admit, the ringing cry of 'systemic issue' is simply bull****. I dont see the value of the continued fight in light of the objective numbers.
9 deaths. vs 19 deaths.
Lightning strikes. Dog attacks.
But please continue the good fight. Why am I not surprised.....
I know having a theological belief in something destroyed by objective numbers is tough.
Dog attacks.
What’s bull**** is the numbers you present.
Funny, the numbers *you* present dont in any way account for the somewhat cogent fact that police tend to patrol crime areas -- not River Oaks. That, in conjunction with the massively out of proportion statistics regarding black violent crime rates tells a rather interesting story when together. Funny, that thing that you plop onto the floor stunningly doesnt bother with that common sense issue.
Quote:More than 28 people in the country died at the hands of police in 2019. Those number are the number of UNARMED people SHOT by police in 2019,
No fing ****. Perhaps that is why the total numbers and the unarmed numbers were noted. Perhaps read a little more comprehensively *before* an AHA moment that has already been noted. maybe that is the reason the number 9, and the number 19 were specifically noted as unarmed.
Did you not bother to note that very specific issue in the context of the 10 or so posts about that? Seriously dude....
Quote:which should be shocking enough given that the people were unarmed and gunned down.
I guess that is enough for yo uto bance the cha cha cha of pervasive and systemic issue to death. No one is delimiting the valaue of any of those 28 lives -- but good fing god when you try and gin that 28 into a NATIONAL AND EARTH SHATTERING issue is just kind of beyond the pale of stupid.
Quote:Let’s look at total deaths in 2019.
Quote: Even after a 4% decline from 2018, the number of deaths due to police harm in 2019 – 1,099, according to Mapping Police Violence – was higher than in 2014.
In fact, people of color were more likely to be the victims of this harm in 2019 than they were in 2014. In 2019, 54% of those who died as a result of harm from police and whose race was identified were people of color – including Asian, Black, Hispanic, Native American and Pacific Islander individuals – compared to 50% in 2014.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/202...e-of-color
And what is the corresponding rates of violent crimes by the deceased? Funny, that isnt mentioned. Not do you mention that now you are talking about deaths in all forms -- including the shitbird gang bangers toting their 9's in plain sight. Hmmmm.. Funny, last I saw being armed and being stopped by the police is a real ******* problem. I guess you dont see it that way.
Quote:But again, you’re focusing on a single data point of policing to try and suggest that the are not systemic issues (and a data point that isn’t even k early compelling). What about frequency of being pulled over by race? What about drug arrests by race? Let’s look at the entire body of work and evaluate if we see disparities broken down along racial lines.
Why solely drug arrests? WHy not violent crime? I mean, the african american community is convicted of violent crime at rate that make any others look like a bunch of pikers. Ahh, lets gloss over that.
Quote:Quote: African Americans are arrested for violating marijuana possession laws at nearly four times the rates of whites, yet both ethnicities consume marijuana at roughly the same rates.
https://norml.org/marijuana/fact-sheets/...#gsc.tab=0
Funny, again, had you bothered to fing read, I had already noted that there is a disparity in enforcement in low level misdemeanors and the such.
But now you use an incidence of detentions for low level crimes as a proxy substitute for the 'systemic problem' worthy of being rioted upon. Good fing god that is massive stretch -- in more than one sense mind you. Interesting, when the canard of 'police hunting african americans for sport and ***** and grins at epidemic rates' falls apart like a crappy 30 dollar suit, the tact is now seemingly pick up and build the ramparts of 'HORRENDOUS DISCRIMINATION' about Firebase Roust Em on Pot Charges. (head slap emoji)
Your loyalty to your theology is commendable there, lad.
1/4 the number of dog attack deaths.