(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 03:57 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  This is piss poor.

And completely true. Or do have another, better name for someone who slept her way to the top?

Intrigued by how you think this is "true" as opposed to "suspected" or "alleged."

Is there any question that she carried on an affair with Willie Brown? I thought that was a given. My understanding is that Brown himself has admitted it. And he was certainly a kingmaker, probably the most powerful man in California state politics at the time. And her political career certainly advanced while she and he were together. If that's not sleeping her way to the top, I'm not sure what is.
I actually thought more people would be upset by "Stacey the Hutt" than by "Kamala the Slut."

Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 03:57 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  This is piss poor.

And completely true. Or do have another, better name for someone who slept her way to the top?

Intrigued by how you think this is "true" as opposed to "suspected" or "alleged."

Is there any question that she carried on an affair with Willie Brown? I thought that was a given. My understanding is that Brown himself has admitted it. And he was certainly a kingmaker, probably the most powerful man in California state politics at the time. And her political career certainly advanced while she and he were together. If that's not sleeping her way to the top, I'm not sure what is.

I actually thought more people would be upset by "Stacey the Hutt" than by "Kamala the Slut."

Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.

Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

Most pols in California will very much agree that there was a very causal relationship between the opening of doors and legs in this instance.

And her body sharing came hand in hand (or leg in leg) with Willie's direct help.

First, Willie, while he was the speaker of the California State Assembly and during their romance, appointed her to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and also to the Medical Assistance Commission. As a *deputy* district attorney. Not a chief assistant, not a chief of a division, nor as a section head. But as someone on the 2nd or 3rd lowest rung of the totem pole.

And it is undisputed that Willie had a heavy hand in her run and win against the incumbent SF DA. I dont think that that really stacks up as 'might have helped.'

If it is, then you should also be onboard with the related discounting statement that "Trump's father might have helped with the present Trump fortune".

Same issue, same level of patronage. Very different underlying reasons (one would hope).

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  And completely true. Or do have another, better name for someone who slept her way to the top?

Intrigued by how you think this is "true" as opposed to "suspected" or "alleged."

Is there any question that she carried on an affair with Willie Brown? I thought that was a given. My understanding is that Brown himself has admitted it. And he was certainly a kingmaker, probably the most powerful man in California state politics at the time. And her political career certainly advanced while she and he were together. If that's not sleeping her way to the top, I'm not sure what is.
I actually thought more people would be upset by "Stacey the Hutt" than by "Kamala the Slut."

Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

ETA - just to clarify that thought, I'd say Trump has built his entire career on his image. So yes in my eyes, I would argue that his succession of wives could be classified as sleeping his way to the top.

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Intrigued by how you think this is "true" as opposed to "suspected" or "alleged."

Is there any question that she carried on an affair with Willie Brown? I thought that was a given. My understanding is that Brown himself has admitted it. And he was certainly a kingmaker, probably the most powerful man in California state politics at the time. And her political career certainly advanced while she and he were together. If that's not sleeping her way to the top, I'm not sure what is.
I actually thought more people would be upset by "Stacey the Hutt" than by "Kamala the Slut."

Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

ETA - just to clarify that thought, I'd say Trump has built his entire career on his image. So yes in my eyes, I would argue that his succession of wives could be classified as sleeping his way to the top.

You really had to stretch for that. It exemplifies how those who want to vilify Trump will find ways and reasons. Won't be long now when he orders vanilla ice cream and the left finds that to be racist.

Yes, I am sure Marla and Ivana put in good words for him with people who count, and that is why he was able to increase his inheritance 10,000%. No other explanation. [/sarcasm]

Personally, I think if he had stuck with Ivana the whole time his image would be a lot better. I guess you are easily impressed.

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 04:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Is there any question that she carried on an affair with Willie Brown? I thought that was a given. My understanding is that Brown himself has admitted it. And he was certainly a kingmaker, probably the most powerful man in California state politics at the time. And her political career certainly advanced while she and he were together. If that's not sleeping her way to the top, I'm not sure what is.
I actually thought more people would be upset by "Stacey the Hutt" than by "Kamala the Slut."

Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up? Also, are Angry Young People better than AOMs? For example, Antifa?

And what do you guys have against age, anyway? Every other culture has honored its elders. Your front runner is is in his 70's, and your runner up is in her seventies. Aren't they angry too?
Warren sure comes across that way.

Or do you just like the stereotype?

Greenland

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

ETA - just to clarify that thought, I'd say Trump has built his entire career on his image. So yes in my eyes, I would argue that his succession of wives could be classified as sleeping his way to the top.

If that were the case, quid-pro-quo sexual harassment charges wouldn't exist.

The value comes from the one holding higher position.

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Sleeping her way to the top says she didn't get there on her own merits.
Her relationship may have helped at some point, but she has moved up since that original appointment without Brown's help...

She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s.

How many bottom of the rung members of a District Attorney office?
How many of those did he appoint to two statewide commissions?

The answer is exactly one.

That is simply a fact of the public record.

What an amazing coincidence it just happened to be the person he was doing the horizontal tango with.

The facts are clear on that. How do *you* explain them? Some odd cosmic alliance? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Perhaps the age old reason put forward.

I mean you jump out of your suspenders to impute or imply ignorance on the behalf of Trump voters at the drop of a hat, but by god, you come forth as a person scorned about another implication ---- even when that stark and clear implication is fairly black and white and backed by actual facts. Funny guy....

Quote:Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

He *was* doing *all* of the junior level deputy District Attorneys that he appointed to *any* statewide commission --- let alone *two* commissions.

Yep, just a happy (hehe) coincidence that the major 'junior lawyer' beneficiary of his largesse was to the one he was in the sack with. Pure coincidence I am sure.

Yes he appointed or had appointed many people. None with this much of a leap between experience and commission resting place. Odd you go amazingly out of your way to scrabble a thin veneer over that point. Or, maybe not.

Quote:Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Yes 93, I am damn fing ignorant as I dont know all the details on his and here relationship. But I am very interested in your call to ignore the fairly straightforward implication of the public record.

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  She made several moves with Brown's help. And whatever merits she may have, they're not apparent to me. I'd probably rate her the least appealing candidate in the entire democrat field, although Bernie and Fauxcohontas and Spartacus would give her a run for the money.

All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

(08-22-2019 08:22 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

ETA - just to clarify that thought, I'd say Trump has built his entire career on his image. So yes in my eyes, I would argue that his succession of wives could be classified as sleeping his way to the top.

Yes, I am sure Marla and Ivana put in good words for him with people who count, and that is why he was able to increase his inheritance 10,000%.

According to the NYT, that would put his net worth at somewhere around $40B!!!

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

Nice set of snark-lined ad hom non-replies on every point. Nothing substantive though. Care to try again?

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  All three of those scare me more. Harris seems more of an empty suit, that will do as told. If elected, it effectively would mean President Pelosi-Schumer.

Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.

(08-22-2019 05:57 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Just curious, do any of you think Trump slept his way up to the top? I'd argue that casting aside one trophy wife in favor of a younger model could be classified as such.

No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

I was taking this Angry Old Men thing as a joke. But now you have slandered me.

What is your evidence that successful powerful women make me angry?

I promoted women to be top manager in two of my offices. When I left my last job in which I worked for somebody else, I recommended a woman to replace me.

You are just angrily flailing about with stereotypes.

I no longer thing think this is funny.

I'll concede the old part, and I am a man.

A man who believes in hiring and promoting on merit, not identity.

Still, better angry than stupid.

I know you have to work, but I will demand a response.

(08-22-2019 11:09 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Could be. And I frankly don’t like the idea of President Pelosi-Schumer either. But Harris strikes me as too much of a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant witch (feel free to substitute a consonant) to let that happen. Then again, we had a self-absorbed, egotistical, arrogant a-hole in the White House, and his inability to work with others led to very little of his socialist agenda getting passed, so maybe we could get lucky again.


No. Sleeping your way to the top means exchanging sexual favors for advancement. There is every indication that Harris did precisely that. I’m don’t understand what or how a trophy wife can advance you unless her father or mother own the company, and that was clearly not the case.

Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

I was taking this Angry Old Men thing as a joke. But now you have slandered me.

What is your evidence that successful powerful women make me angry?

Your extrapolation of Kamala Harris' dating history with Willie Brown to referring to her as a "slut".

FYI, I was also taking this Angry Old Man thing as a joke (I may be closer to your age than Lad's).

(08-22-2019 12:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:09 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  Neither you nor Tanq nor I has clear insight into the nature of the relationship between Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

Willie Brown helped to advance the careers of plenty of NoCal politicians in the 1990s. Presumably not all of these politicians were sleeping with him.

Calling her a "slut" is low-rent and very Angry Old Man.

Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

I was taking this Angry Old Men thing as a joke. But now you have slandered me.

What is your evidence that successful powerful women make me angry?

Your extrapolation of Kamala Harris' dating history with Willie Brown to referring to her as a "slut".

FYI, I was also taking this Angry Old Man thing as a joke (I may be closer to your age than Lad's).

That was another poster, not me.

But I guess we all look alike to you.

I really don't care if she screwed everybody in California. Or nobody. Either way, I think she would make a horrible President.

I just think he record in office and her promises while campaigning are well short of awe-inspiring. I see no reason to defend her just because she is a black female Democrat. I don't defend Trump because he is a while male RINO. If anything, I defend hi spite of him being a white male RINO.

I believe a person's job prospects should not be influenced by skin color and sex. Unfortunately, that means I do not support Affirmative Action or minority set asides. Policies based on race = racist. Stupid old racist me, angrily insisting people be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Clearly the essence of white supremacy.

My age is 74. I bet you are closer to Lad.

(08-22-2019 12:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:09 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 08:34 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Presumably he was getting something in return from those politicians whose careers he was advancing. I am guessing he asked the men and ugly women for different quid pro quos.

You guys are beginning to make Angry Old Man a badge of honor.

Yes. You should own it.

Quote:Nobody ever bothered to tell me what I am angry about. You want to step up?

Apparently successful, powerful women?

Quote:And what do you guys have against age, anyway?

Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

I was taking this Angry Old Men thing as a joke. But now you have slandered me.

What is your evidence that successful powerful women make me angry?

Your extrapolation of Kamala Harris' dating history with Willie Brown to referring to her as a "slut".

FYI, I was also taking this Angry Old Man thing as a joke (I may be closer to your age than Lad's).

That was another poster, not me.

But I guess we all look alike to you.

I really don't care if she screwed everybody in California. Or nobody. Either way, I think she would make a horrible President.

I just think he record in office and her promises while campaigning are well short of awe-inspiring. I see no reason to defend her just because she is a black female Democrat. I don't defend Trump because he is a while male RINO. If anything, I defend hi spite of him being a white male RINO.

I believe a person's job prospects should not be influenced by skin color and sex. Unfortunately, that means I do not support Affirmative Action or minority set asides. Policies based on race = racist. Stupid old racist me, angrily insisting people be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Clearly the essence of white supremacy.

My age is 74. I bet you are closer to Lad.

My apologies... it was Owl#s.

It doesn’t seem that the right wingers that have responded have a problem with the use of the term as applied by Owls#s.

(08-22-2019 12:42 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:31 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 12:00 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:09 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 09:54 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  Yes. You should own it.


Apparently successful, powerful women?


Nothing. I certainly don't consider myself "young".

I was taking this Angry Old Men thing as a joke. But now you have slandered me.

What is your evidence that successful powerful women make me angry?

Your extrapolation of Kamala Harris' dating history with Willie Brown to referring to her as a "slut".

FYI, I was also taking this Angry Old Man thing as a joke (I may be closer to your age than Lad's).

That was another poster, not me.

But I guess we all look alike to you.

I really don't care if she screwed everybody in California. Or nobody. Either way, I think she would make a horrible President.

I just think he record in office and her promises while campaigning are well short of awe-inspiring. I see no reason to defend her just because she is a black female Democrat. I don't defend Trump because he is a while male RINO. If anything, I defend hi spite of him being a white male RINO.

I believe a person's job prospects should not be influenced by skin color and sex. Unfortunately, that means I do not support Affirmative Action or minority set asides. Policies based on race = racist. Stupid old racist me, angrily insisting people be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Clearly the essence of white supremacy.

My age is 74. I bet you are closer to Lad.

My apologies... it was Owl#s.

It doesn’t seem that the right wingers that have responded have a problem with the use of the term as applied by Owls#s.

Considering all the issue coming back from you is the board equivalent of 'ignore that man behind the curtain' in light of the facts of the matter ---

What is *your* opinion of the Speaker of the Assembly appointing a person who is amazingly junior in a professional capacity to two statewide commissions, all occurring while the two were doing the horizontal tango? Funny, I havent heard a word from you specifically on that subject. That is *except* for a feeble attempt at 'please ignore the actual facts the table', that is.

I find it rather fing unseeming to be honest. At both ends of the equation. At the very least. It smacks of a guy so enraptured by current tail that he has no qualms about the rather massive advancement provided. And it smacks of a person who is more than willing to accept the 'tail for commission seat' so provided. Not the first time I have seen it, probably wont be the last. How does it play to you?

'Slut' may be somewhat overboard, but 'tail for political gain' seems about spot on in this to me. Does that sound accurate to you? How would *you* characterize that apparent quid pro quo?