(10-24-2016 04:15 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 02:22 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Just went to early vote. Lines were longer than I've ever seen. No idea if that means anything, but higher turnout usually is a good sign for Dems

Maybe they're afraid of some devastating news coming out to cause them not to vote for her and just wanted to get it done so they couldn't take it back.

Or maybe they were so disgusted with Trump that they could not wait to vote for Hillary.

(10-24-2016 07:29 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 11:14 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Even Trump's campaign acknowledges that he is behind in the polls.

The Unicorns and Gummy Bears work for Hillary. so how you're crediting Trump with this nonsense is just that....nonsense.

Trump's campaign acknowledged that he was behind the other day.

You can spin that fact all that you want.

(10-24-2016 09:26 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Where do you get the idea Hillary has no impulse control? As a Bernie bro I have a lot of problems with her re honesty and taking dirty money, but if anything she's overly cautious.

Her blowups with staff are legendary. Repeated stories over the years.

Someone posted the story of what happened after the Matt Lauer interview on here.

(10-24-2016 02:22 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Just went to early vote. Lines were longer than I've ever seen. No idea if that means anything, but higher turnout usually is a good sign for Dems

1980 it wasn't.

(10-25-2016 09:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 02:22 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Just went to early vote. Lines were longer than I've ever seen. No idea if that means anything, but higher turnout usually is a good sign for Dems

1980 it wasn't.

Depends on who is showing up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turn..._elections

Obama did benefit from ralatively high turnout in 2008. Then again, so did GWB in 2004. Last time turnout hit 60%, Nixon won in in a landslide. Turnout has dipped under 50% just once in the last 90 years and that was when Slick Willie won his 2nd term.

In other words, it says nothing and the assertion that it usually helps democrats is false.

I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

Have They opened the Tunnels underneath El Paso yet ? The ones below the voting booths.

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

Millennials and blacks seem to generally hate them both. She simply isn't going to turn out nearly as many as Obama. I think the unaffiliated surge we are seeing are the Trumpeters. They love Trump, but hate the GOP and the DNC. A lot of people are going to be very surprised. The question is whether or not there are enough unmarried, college educated white women for her to overcome the depressed turnout for her other constituencies. She might outperform Obama there in margin with a similar turnout. It comes down to Pennsylvania.

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

My Daughter, 27 and Her fiance, 26 both say They won't be voting either. They are both Liberal and supported Bernie. SMH ! They don't like either choice and say Gary is an idiot. They said most of Their friends think the same way.

(10-25-2016 10:13 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

Millennials and blacks seem to generally hate them both. She simply isn't going to turn out nearly as many as Obama. I think the unaffiliated surge we are seeing are the Trumpeters. They love Trump, but hate the GOP and the DNC. A lot of people are going to be very surprised. The question is whether or not there are enough unmarried, college educated white women for her to overcome the depressed turnout for her other constituencies. She might outperform Obama there in margin with a similar turnout. It comes down to Pennsylvania.

Yeah I just don't see it. I believe people in their minds would vote for Hillary but will they actually do it? Millennials are generally lazy when it comes to this stuff, unless their motivated ala Obama in 08/12

(10-25-2016 10:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

My Daughter, 27 and Her fiance, 26 both say They won't be voting either. They are both Liberal and supported Bernie. SMH ! They don't like either choice and say Gary is an idiot. They said most of Their friends think the same way.

Yep this election will be about motivation to get to the polls.

(10-25-2016 10:35 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

My Daughter, 27 and Her fiance, 26 both say They won't be voting either. They are both Liberal and supported Bernie. SMH ! They don't like either choice and say Gary is an idiot. They said most of Their friends think the same way.

Yep this election will be about motivation to get to the polls.

exactly, which is why the NC early numbers are so interesting. Dem and GOP vote is down, African American vote is down, Unaffiliated vote is skyrocketing.

(10-25-2016 10:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:35 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I have a hard time believing that millennials will actually show up to the polls. I wonder this because I am one and a lot people say they won't even vote.

My Daughter, 27 and Her fiance, 26 both say They won't be voting either. They are both Liberal and supported Bernie. SMH ! They don't like either choice and say Gary is an idiot. They said most of Their friends think the same way.

Yep this election will be about motivation to get to the polls.

exactly, which is why the NC early numbers are so interesting. Dem and GOP vote is down, African American vote is down, Unaffiliated vote is skyrocketing.

Unaffiliated/independent favors Trump. We'll see.

Bwahahahah!

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/donal...-in-texas/

(11-01-2016 05:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Bwahahahah!

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/donal...-in-texas/

Last chance on the bet, Tom.

Goodness, Trump is also actually leading among women and only 7 points behind with Hispanics. That's just insane.

BUT MUH NATE!

I've been in AZ for 13+ years now and this is the first time I have had to deal with a fair amount of presidential campaign ads. I see no way Hillary wins here but that it is close really surprises me. Random thoughts on a thread about Texas but I just had to sit through a Hillary ad during the World Series, hasn't really happened in the past.

(11-01-2016 09:06 PM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  I've been in AZ for 13+ years now and this is the first time I have had to deal with a fair amount of presidential campaign ads. I see no way Hillary wins here but that it is close really surprises me. Random thoughts on a thread about Texas but I just had to sit through a Hillary ad during the World Series, hasn't really happened in the past.

Im at a hotel in South Carolina and saw a Hilary ad during the game too. Must have been a national buy because I see no reason to advertise in SC