(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:07 PM)Dragonlair2.0 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 05:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  predominately black areas in NC and GA have had 2 hour lines

It's not because blacks tend to live in more densely populated areas tho?

Eastern NC is rural and has a very large AA population.

AA turnout down significantly in day 1 compared to day 1 of last year

It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

If the hurricane does anything it will likely depress overall turnout from affected areas as people in affected areas may have other priorities i.e. clean up, salvage, insurance hassles, etc.

(10-21-2016 07:38 PM)dfarr Wrote:  Ive never had to wait longer than 20 seconds to vote, and that includes when I lived in Birmingham.

Early voting is dumb.

Early voting rewards the lazy, IMO.

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

To be fair I think I know what he's talking about, but asked just to be sure.

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

It isn't for everyone. It is for the disabled. Notice above I said I did curbside for my wife.

(10-21-2016 08:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

It isn't for everyone. It is for the disabled. Notice above I said I did curbside for my wife.

See I thought you were standing on the curbside with a candidate placard, and that's what you meant by curbside. I didn't realize it was for voting.

(10-21-2016 08:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

It isn't for everyone. It is for the disabled. Notice above I said I did curbside for my wife.

Sorry for misunderstanding...For those with mobility issues it makes sense.
I thought maybe it was a new trend.

So the 2 hour lines are a conspiracy by the GOP?

(10-21-2016 08:30 PM)muffinman Wrote:  So the 2 hour lines are a conspiracy by the GOP?

Shh...don't give the libs any ideas.

(10-21-2016 08:20 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

To be fair I think I know what he's talking about, but asked just to be sure.

It is simple. Disabled people can pull up to a designated spot at the polling place. A poll worker gets their information, gets them to sign the document certifying that they are voting early and then brings them a ballot. They vote, the worker comes back over and picks up the ballot, puts it through the voting machine and comes back and lets them know the ballot was accepted. There were two workers working the curbside today and they were in constant motion. It makes for a long tiring day for them, but they are doing an excellent service for people that would otherwise have a very difficult time voting.

(10-21-2016 08:32 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:30 PM)muffinman Wrote:  So the 2 hour lines are a conspiracy by the GOP?

Shh...don't give the libs any ideas.

What do you mean? I spent 2-3 hours in 1980 waiting to vote for Reagan. I was in a State House District in Houston that was 93% Republican and obviously wasn't given enough voting precincts or voting machines. It was wrapped around the school and nobody left.

(10-21-2016 08:30 PM)muffinman Wrote:  So the 2 hour lines are a conspiracy by the GOP?

Not all the time.

(10-21-2016 08:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:20 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 04:39 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Here is a thread for observations and discussion of going to the polls for early voting.

Early in person voting started in NC Thursday and there have been long lines in many areas. The metro areas are in the news but rural areas are seeing large numbers as well. I did curbside today for my wife and our rural county BofE office was jumping. There was a line to get in the door and we were about 3 or 4 cars deep for curbside.

A couple of observations. Judicial races are called Nonpartisan yet ballot for the NC Court of Appeals designate the party affiliation of the candidates. No such designation is shown for State Supreme Court or District court races. In the 8 District Court Judgeship races I voted in only one had opposition. There was also no opposition for District attorney. Most disturbing for me was that write ins are not allowed in most races. I had planned on writing in Gerry Mander for my state senate and house races but marking instructions specify that you can only write in for races where a blank bubble in space is provided. President, Commissioner of Labor and Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor were the only races that allowed write ins.

Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

To be fair I think I know what he's talking about, but asked just to be sure.

It is simple. Disabled people can pull up to a designated spot at the polling place. A poll worker gets their information, gets them to sign the document certifying that they are voting early and then brings them a ballot. They vote, the worker comes back over and picks up the ballot, puts it through the voting machine and comes back and lets them know the ballot was accepted. There were two workers working the curbside today and they were in constant motion. It makes for a long tiring day for them, but they are doing an excellent service for people that would otherwise have a very difficult time voting.

Don't know if you saw the other post I made, but what you're describing here is not what I thought you meant.

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:07 PM)Dragonlair2.0 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 05:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  predominately black areas in NC and GA have had 2 hour lines

It's not because blacks tend to live in more densely populated areas tho?

Eastern NC is rural and has a very large AA population.

AA turnout down significantly in day 1 compared to day 1 of last year

It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

Stats I posted are from "but muh nate"

(10-21-2016 08:51 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:20 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:19 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:14 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Curbside? I don't think I've ever heard that term.

Curbside? I understand maybe offering curbside to those who are disabled but for others?
How lazy are we? We can not even get out of our cars to vote now?
Do you get fries with that?

To be fair I think I know what he's talking about, but asked just to be sure.

It is simple. Disabled people can pull up to a designated spot at the polling place. A poll worker gets their information, gets them to sign the document certifying that they are voting early and then brings them a ballot. They vote, the worker comes back over and picks up the ballot, puts it through the voting machine and comes back and lets them know the ballot was accepted. There were two workers working the curbside today and they were in constant motion. It makes for a long tiring day for them, but they are doing an excellent service for people that would otherwise have a very difficult time voting.

Don't know if you saw the other post I made, but what you're describing here is not what I thought you meant.

I saw it after I posted. There were a ton of people standing out front trying to sway us, tackiest t-shirts and caps I've seen since the last big election.

(10-21-2016 08:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:07 PM)Dragonlair2.0 Wrote:  It's not because blacks tend to live in more densely populated areas tho?

Eastern NC is rural and has a very large AA population.

AA turnout down significantly in day 1 compared to day 1 of last year

It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

Stats I posted are from "but muh nate"

Oh Silver loves to crunch those numbers. Here is an interesting one from Dr. Bitzer. Absentee (mail in) show that up to this point that Rs (while higher than Ds) are down to just 59% of what they were in 2012. Ds and Is are both over 100%. I'm not sure what to make of it, perhaps a lack of Republican enthusiasm? A negative Trump affect? Nothing?

(10-21-2016 09:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Eastern NC is rural and has a very large AA population.

AA turnout down significantly in day 1 compared to day 1 of last year

It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

Stats I posted are from "but muh nate"

Oh Silver loves to crunch those numbers. Here is an interesting one from Dr. Bitzer. Absentee (mail in) show that up to this point that Rs (while higher than Ds) are down to just 59% of what they were in 2012. Ds and Is are both over 100%. I'm not sure what to make of it, perhaps a lack of Republican enthusiasm? A negative Trump affect? Nothing?

My opinion is a lot of former R"a are now registered I's. Being a republican is not exactly a popular thing right now, anti democrat, yes, but not a card carrying GOP member. Also if you are a registered I in NC you get to pick your primary which I think is a nice little perk

(10-21-2016 09:24 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:56 PM)solohawks Wrote:  AA turnout down significantly in day 1 compared to day 1 of last year

It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

Stats I posted are from "but muh nate"

Oh Silver loves to crunch those numbers. Here is an interesting one from Dr. Bitzer. Absentee (mail in) show that up to this point that Rs (while higher than Ds) are down to just 59% of what they were in 2012. Ds and Is are both over 100%. I'm not sure what to make of it, perhaps a lack of Republican enthusiasm? A negative Trump affect? Nothing?

My opinion is a lot of former R"a are now registered I's. Being a republican is not exactly a popular thing right now, anti democrat, yes, but not a card carrying GOP member. Also if you are a registered I in NC you get to pick your primary which I think is a nice little perk

Bitzer has some stats on that. If I'm not mistaken the I breakdown was about evenly split between those that strongly tended to vote D or R. I'm not sure about people changing R to I though, maybe so. As far as the being popular though I can confidently say in rural NC Republican is the thing to be. Us Democrats, especially us white males, are looked at as at best an odd curiosity, at worst evil idiots.

(10-21-2016 10:03 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:24 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 09:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:07 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  It will be interesting to follow early voting trends. Are you getting your info from Dr. Bitzer? I wonder what affect Hurricane Matthew will have on it.

Stats I posted are from "but muh nate"

Oh Silver loves to crunch those numbers. Here is an interesting one from Dr. Bitzer. Absentee (mail in) show that up to this point that Rs (while higher than Ds) are down to just 59% of what they were in 2012. Ds and Is are both over 100%. I'm not sure what to make of it, perhaps a lack of Republican enthusiasm? A negative Trump affect? Nothing?

My opinion is a lot of former R"a are now registered I's. Being a republican is not exactly a popular thing right now, anti democrat, yes, but not a card carrying GOP member. Also if you are a registered I in NC you get to pick your primary which I think is a nice little perk

Bitzer has some stats on that. If I'm not mistaken the I breakdown was about evenly split between those that strongly tended to vote D or R. I'm not sure about people changing R to I though, maybe so. As far as the being popular though I can confidently say in rural NC Republican is the thing to be. Us Democrats, especially us white males, are looked at as at best an odd curiosity, at worst evil idiots.

I highly doubt those stats. What is the basis for them? All the Trumpeters are independents. Who are the independents are for Hillary? I don't know anyone for her that is an independent, only democrats. Trump and Johnson have the independents.

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