(10-19-2016 08:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Do people really believe this ****? Are they that stupid?
Well they are voting for her... so that should answer your question
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Too stupid to breed.
The truth is that both plans blow up the debt. Supposedly, Trump's plan is worse at doing that. Given his growth projections, he probably also blows a hole in the debt worse than Clinton would.
But that's not what she said, she said that she won't add a cent.
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Sure and GWB said he'd never get into nation building either. Her "lie" is the way she structured her plan with what i'm guessing would be irrational growth projections. You can say Trump also lied about his plan. He said he'd grow us out of the deficit problems. But at 5 -6% growth over 10 years (or say even 4% annually)? NFW will the economy do that for 10 years.
(10-19-2016 09:51 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: I see you already got your talking points from NBC
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MSM is all in the tank. All of them had the exact same immediate talking points post debate. Hillary was flustered the whole night, voters don't live in a bubble.
She did seem irritated the whole night.
She has trouble with controlling her subtle expressions when she is not talking. She tends to look haughty.
Her smirks really do not leave a good impression. She's not as over the top with her reactions, but she is every bit as out of control as Trump.
True, but Trump has had some pretty nasty looks himself. Another wash and at this point in the game a net win for Hillary because Trump is the guy that has to make up the ground.
Trump did very well. Hillary was okay. Even if he loses I'm just glad someone like Trump came around to stir the masses. I liken him to William Jennings Bryan in that regard -- a person who reinvigorated a neglected segment of the population. If he loses he ought consider founding his own political party.
(10-19-2016 11:36 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote: You can hear the mic pick up another voice during debate.
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Check out this video!
I don't hear anything but I'd have to say that if she was receiving instructions from another voice, then it's incredibly difficult to rapidly receive names and facts from one source while immediately responding to a debate question. And I'd be even more impressed with her for pulling it off smoothly than upset if it was actually true. It would mean she was actually dealing with three voices/trains of thought at the same time - the debate itself, her coach in the earpiece and Trump's interruptions ('Wrong', 'Such a Nasty Woman', etc.).
And that kind of shoots down the theory she's sick and her mental capacities aren't sharp. Her mentioning the Orlando shooter was born in Queens was a good line on her behalf.
(10-19-2016 11:34 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: Trump did very well. Hillary was okay. Even if he loses I'm just glad someone like Trump came around to stir the masses. I liken him to William Jennings Bryan in that regard -- a person who reinvigorated a neglected segment of the population. If he loses he ought consider founding his own political party.
I have a soft spot for him. I ran for class president 3 times and student council president once in high school. I was defeated all 4 times. The political reincarnation of him.
Donald Trump’s rocky performance on the final debate stage did little to allay his party’s concerns that the GOP is headed for an electoral catastrophe up and down the ticket.
In interviews with over a dozen senior Republican strategists, not one said Trump did anything to change the trajectory of a contest that is growing further out of reach. And many said they were deeply distressed by Trump’s refusal to accept the results of the Nov. 8 election, an eyebrow-raising moment already dominating headlines.
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With Trump’s prospects for securing 270 electoral votes growing dimmer by the day, many Republicans have turned their focus to the gritty, unpleasant task of protecting the party’s congressional majorities. Trump, they said, did little to buttress the GOP ticket — and may have worsened its position by repeating his claim that the election is rigged, something congressional Republicans are sure to be pressed on in the days to come.
Immediately after Trump’s remark, several party higher-ups, including South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham and Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, took to Twitter to distance themselves from it.
“The biggest loser tonight was not Trump, the presidential race is over,” said Robert Blizzard, a GOP pollster who is working on a number of congressional races. “Instead, down-ticket Republicans lost tonight — they needed some help and got absolutely none.”
(10-19-2016 10:42 PM)muffinman Wrote: Has the government actually provided proof that the Russians hacked the DNC? Like tangible proof?
No, 17 intelligence agencies just concluded the hacking was from Russia because conspiracy. They make baseless conjecture because, again, conspiracy. We liberals pay scientists, academics, economists and all them pointy headed smart guys think we come descended from monkeys to say what we want because we want to take your guns.
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(10-19-2016 10:46 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: Wow. Donna Brazille.
Caught red-handed feeding questions to HRC before a prior debate and blames the Russians for hacking.
Except it's the intelligence agencies blaming the Russians. 17 of them.
(10-19-2016 10:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: I think educated people see how dangerous this guy really is. So they are no longer pulling punches.
Dangerous?
Far as I know no one has died on Trump's watch.
HRC can't make that claim.
Boom! Close this damn thread, oh and somebody get Mach some water for that burn, he will need it!
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Yeah, nobody died under Trump's watch because thankfully he's never been in such a position of responsibility. God help us if he ever is.
Also there were dozens of consulate attacks under George W. Bush, but Dems never went so low as to politicize them. And the GOP House cut consulate security for her State Department.
(10-19-2016 08:45 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: Well they are voting for her... so that should answer your question
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Too stupid to breed.
The truth is that both plans blow up the debt. Supposedly, Trump's plan is worse at doing that. Given his growth projections, he probably also blows a hole in the debt worse than Clinton would.
But that's not what she said, she said that she won't add a cent.
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Sure and GWB said he'd never get into nation building either. Her "lie" is the way she structured her plan with what i'm guessing would be irrational growth projections. You can say Trump also lied about his plan. He said he'd grow us out of the deficit problems. But at 5 -6% growth over 10 years (or say even 4% annually)? NFW will the economy do that for 10 years.
Hold on... looking to see if GWB is on the ballot this year...
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