Picked this up from Big East NCAABBS/Board. The Big East, evidently, would continue to play the MAC in the Motor City Bowl, making for two MAC bowls for the Big East.

With eight teams, probably 4/5 bowls is what Big East is looking for. With existing agreements with Gator, Charlotte, and Copper Bowl, it seems Big East is making plans to lose some existing bowl agreements....my guess is the Gator and maybe the Arizona Bowl too.

The Motor City Bowl is a Big 10 bowl, not Big East. UConn played in the MCB last year because the Big 10 couldn't fill their spot.

And look for the Gator to drop the Big East this year.

Yeah, I think that is a given.

The Big East does have an agreement with the Motor City Bowl to provide a team if the Big Ten can't fill the slot if they have more bowl eligible teams than they have bowls.

Last year they had five teams and four bowls, and UConn went to the MCB.

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Doesn't the MAC champion go to the MCB? If so the Big East sending their #4 or #5 does not bother me. The MAC has some good teams with Miami, BGSU, and Toledo. One of those 3 would almost always play there, and draw a good crowd.

Herd Swimming Wrote:The Big East does have an agreement with the Motor City Bowl to provide a team if the Big Ten can't fill the slot if they have more bowl eligible teams than they have bowls.

Last year they had five teams and four bowls, and UConn went to the MCB.

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The Big East was added last season to the MCB contract. It stated that if the Big Ten did not have a bowl elgible team then a Big East school would be selected. I can't remember how long that contract was supposed to be for though.

The Big Ten is the main opponent and in most years will be able to supply a team for the MCB. In fact, I have been told that the MCB is considering uping its payout to try to get a higher Big Ten team in the game.

The MAC Champion is not necessarily contracted to the MCB. The MCB is supposed to have first choice of a MAC team, but they obviously would want Toledo or Bowling Green over someone else because of attendance being better if those two are in the game. Of course if they can get Michigan State in the game it probably doesn't matter which MAC team is in the game they will still have great attendance.


As for this bowl game in Toronto, this is the one I tried to tell some Marshall fans about that quickly said would never happen and the MAC would be back to 1 bid soon. This bowl game still has to be certified by the NCAA, but from what I have been told it is very, very likely to be certified.

Ooops! I thought the Motor City Bowl was a Big East Bowl. Sorry for the mistake. The NCAABBS/Big East board has had good discussion and referenced newspaper articles regarding the Gator Bowl. It appears Gator wants to take Notre Dame whenever the Gator Bowl wants to....so, in effect, the Gator Bowl becomes the Notre Dame Bowl even if the Big East retains the Gator. Myself, I am guessing the Big-12 will make a strong, strong push for the Gator Bowl. It wouln't surprise me to see Big-12 pull its #2 team out of the Cotton in order to secure the Gator.

Why? OU and Texas play each other there annually. A bowl trip there is not met with enthusiasm. For example, Texas should have played in the Cotton given the Big-12 pecking order but the Longhorns were so tired of the Cotton and the Cotton was concerned about fan attendance, that by mutual agreement, Okla State played Ole Miss by mutual agreement. A second reason is that the old Big-8 played in the Orange BOwl...and there always has been a feeling to return to Florida.

Just what the MAC needs; another mid-winter, frozen football bowl smack dab in the middle of hockey season in the Great White North.

Good luck with those winter football games in Canada, MACsters.

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i dont see the big 12 leaving the cotton bowl. as far as enthusiasm, the aggies were super excited to play there this year. also, since the longhorns are almost always second, they like having the "home"game. plus doesnt the cotton bowl pay out a lot more money? i think that would be the bottom line.

HerdChemist89 Wrote:Just what the MAC needs; another mid-winter, frozen football bowl smack dab in the middle of hockey season in the Great White North.

Good luck with those winter football games in Canada, MACsters.

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I knew you would have something negative to say.

NEWSFLASH - The MAC is not in the South, we are in the Northern MidWest. Toronto and Detroit are in our geographic region. Will some MAC teams travel well to Toronto......YES. Would some C-USA teams travel well to Toronto.........Probably Not! Why? Because Toronto is not in C-USA's geographic region. I don't expect C-USA fans to care about a bowl game in Toronto, just like MAC fans could care less about a bowl game in Charlotte like some C-USA fans have talked about. Just because Southern schools don't care about a bowl game in Toronto, doesn't mean that it doesn't fit the MAC or Big East. If you guys really don't care about the MAC, then do us a favor and spot talking about us. You don't keep talking about something if you don't care.


Anyway, the bowl game in Toronto is going to be played in the Skydome which is a pretty nice facility and is temperature controlled. Many West Division MAC schools can drive to Windsor (through Detroit), soak up some time at the casino in Windsor, and then take the train up to Toronto. There are also a lot of things to do in Toronto.

You "Southerners" crack me up about the thought of playing a bowl game in a colder environment. You act as if a little cold weather is going to kill you or something.

As for hockey season, not sure if the NHL will even be around yet this year, but if it is it isn't the only sport in Canada. And Canada does play football too.

Is the Toronto Bowl a done deal, or is it still on the drawing board?

72Tiger Wrote:Is the Toronto Bowl a done deal, or is it still on the drawing board?

They applied for certification and should hear back from the NCAA on April 28th.

I'll never know why people keep posting threads just to get the MAC oxygen thieves over here.

ccs178 Wrote:I'll never know why people keep posting threads just to get the MAC oxygen thieves over here.

Maybe because it is college football news and some people are interested in more than just football news that solely pertains to their conference.

ccs178 Wrote:I'll never know why people keep posting threads just to get the MAC oxygen thieves over here.

Seems to me that rocketfootball made some very good points. I think he was classy about the way he posted it also. The Marshall fans here are over the top negative about the MAC. Yes, it has its share of crappy low level teams, but it also has its share of competitive D1A teams (Toledo, Miami, and BGSU). The bottom teams drag down the MAC, but you take Toledo, Miami, and BGSU, and they can compete with any non-BCS league, and even give the BCS leagues a run for their money. Miami of 2 years ago would have probably finished 3rd at worst in any BCS league.

I, too, want to congratulate the MAC on its third bowl. It appears to me that the MAC has three very, very solid and good bowls, Motor City VS Big-10, Mobile VS CUSA, and now Toronto Bowl vs Big East. All solid financially and with two BCS opponents. That looks pretty good to me.

FWIW, Bowling Green played @Oklahoma last season and gave the Sooners a very strong game; stronger than many Big-12 opponents. Good luck and best wishes to MAC!

Tallgrass Wrote:I, too, want to congratulate the MAC on its third bowl. It appears to me that the MAC has three very, very solid and good bowls, Motor City VS Big-10, Mobile VS CUSA, and now Toronto Bowl vs Big East. All solid financially and with two BCS opponents. That looks pretty good to me.

FWIW, Bowling Green played @Oklahoma last season and gave the Sooners a very strong game; stronger than many Big-12 opponents. Good luck and best wishes to MAC!

That's great, but why don't you do it on the MAC board? Doesn't it make more sense to congratulate the MAC and discuss MAC bowls on a MAC board?

ccs,

I agree it maybe shouldn't have come up on here. But the fact that you ripping on rocketfootball was wrong, IMO (the MAC statement). He was classy and not here just to rip on C-USA schools.

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Tallgrass Wrote:I, too, want to congratulate the MAC on its third bowl.  It appears to me that the MAC has three very, very solid and good bowls, Motor City VS Big-10, Mobile VS CUSA, and now Toronto Bowl vs Big East.  All solid financially and with two BCS opponents.  That looks pretty good to me.

FWIW, Bowling Green played @Oklahoma last season and gave the Sooners a very strong game; stronger than many Big-12 opponents.  Good luck and best wishes to MAC!

That's great, but why don't you do it on the MAC board? Doesn't it make more sense to congratulate the MAC and discuss MAC bowls on a MAC board?

You seem very annoyed when anything comes up on here that isn't 100% C-USA. Do you understand the reason that all I-A conferences are represented on NCAAbbs.com and linked to each other so that posters can interact? I mean if you don't like it then start your own message board somewhere and make it where you have to register to post and that you have to actually request approval from you and give evidence that you are in fact a C-USA fan and will only talk about C-USA stuff.