(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  My Mom is liberal, we talked about this last night. She is 100% opposed to men with dicks in womens bathrooms and locker rooms.
It isn't that hard to understand.

Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  My Mom is liberal, we talked about this last night. She is 100% opposed to men with dicks in womens bathrooms and locker rooms.
It isn't that hard to understand.

Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

I guess they will just have to go to Walmart then because there aren't any crazy people at Walmart.

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

I doubt it because I'm sure they gained a couple hundred thousand perverts that are just waiting to pray on a defenseless person.

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  My Mom is liberal, we talked about this last night. She is 100% opposed to men with dicks in womens bathrooms and locker rooms.
It isn't that hard to understand.

Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Wait - so you're OK with a business like Target being able to set their own bathroom rules, and not have the government tell them what they have to do???

Sounds like you're a supporter of NC House Bill 2. Congrats! You're starting to see the bigger picture.

(04-26-2016 09:25 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  My Mom is liberal, we talked about this last night. She is 100% opposed to men with dicks in womens bathrooms and locker rooms.
It isn't that hard to understand.

Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Wait - so you're OK with a business like Target being able to set their own bathroom rules, and not have the government tell them what they have to do???

Sounds like you're a supporter of NC House Bill 2. Congrats! You're starting to see the bigger picture.

You are misinterpreting the law. The N.C. law makes it illegal for a trangendered man to use the women's restroom. It isn't allowing businesses to make that decision.

(04-26-2016 09:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:25 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Wait - so you're OK with a business like Target being able to set their own bathroom rules, and not have the government tell them what they have to do???

Sounds like you're a supporter of NC House Bill 2. Congrats! You're starting to see the bigger picture.

You are misinterpreting the law. The N.C. law makes it illegal for a trangendered man to use the women's restroom. It isn't allowing businesses to make that decision.

how dare you brings facts into this...

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

(04-26-2016 09:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:25 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Wait - so you're OK with a business like Target being able to set their own bathroom rules, and not have the government tell them what they have to do???

Sounds like you're a supporter of NC House Bill 2. Congrats! You're starting to see the bigger picture.

You are misinterpreting the law. The N.C. law makes it illegal for a trangendered man to use the women's restroom. It isn't allowing businesses to make that decision.

Incorrect.

The law in NO WAY affects private businesses. A business can do whatever it wants in regards to bathrooms.

Schools? Public Libraries? Courthouses? Sure, it affects those places.

(04-26-2016 09:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

Saying "we will hire x and were proud" and "we are sending 40 yo men into changing areas with girls and we are proud" are wildly different things.

They can do as they wish and there was a smart way to do this. They did it the dumb way.

(04-26-2016 09:37 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 10:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd bet half of those boycotting didn't shop at Target in the first place, so nothing lost there....I'm sure Target isn't worried about it.

I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

Saying "we will hire x and were proud" and "we are sending 40 yo men into changing areas with girls and we are proud" are wildly different things.

They can do as they wish and there was a smart way to do this. They did it the dumb way.

lol, they didn't send anyone anywhere...they told their customers to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with.

(04-26-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:37 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  I guarantee Target cares. If only 1/3 follow through - that's a couple hundred thousand customers - they care. Problem is they've backed themselves into a corner and getting out isn't so easy.

A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

Saying "we will hire x and were proud" and "we are sending 40 yo men into changing areas with girls and we are proud" are wildly different things.

They can do as they wish and there was a smart way to do this. They did it the dumb way.

lol, they didn't send anyone anywhere...they told their customers to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with.

In the dumbest way possible...

(04-26-2016 09:28 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:25 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Wait - so you're OK with a business like Target being able to set their own bathroom rules, and not have the government tell them what they have to do???

Sounds like you're a supporter of NC House Bill 2. Congrats! You're starting to see the bigger picture.

You are misinterpreting the law. The N.C. law makes it illegal for a trangendered man to use the women's restroom. It isn't allowing businesses to make that decision.

how dare you brings facts into this...

"Businesses aren’t limited by the bill, and that private companies and private universities can adopt new or keep existing nondiscrimination policies. Private businesses can establish their own practices concerning LGBT employees and customers."

(04-26-2016 09:40 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:37 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  A lot of people don't realize how tight the margins are in retail. And you are right they needlessly backed themselves into a corner by making this a "thing to be proud of"

They could have simply instituted this policy and if questioned pointed at laws in some states that will force them to do this. That would have been the business smart way to go about this if you had to do it.

Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

Saying "we will hire x and were proud" and "we are sending 40 yo men into changing areas with girls and we are proud" are wildly different things.

They can do as they wish and there was a smart way to do this. They did it the dumb way.

lol, they didn't send anyone anywhere...they told their customers to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with.

In the dumbest way possible...

then don't shop there...

(04-26-2016 09:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:40 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:37 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

Saying "we will hire x and were proud" and "we are sending 40 yo men into changing areas with girls and we are proud" are wildly different things.

They can do as they wish and there was a smart way to do this. They did it the dumb way.

lol, they didn't send anyone anywhere...they told their customers to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with.

In the dumbest way possible...

then don't shop there...

hmmm something about a gay couple and a bakery comes to mine... thank you for the hypocrisy.

(04-26-2016 08:11 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:21 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  My Mom is liberal, we talked about this last night. She is 100% opposed to men with dicks in womens bathrooms and locker rooms.
It isn't that hard to understand.

Jethros mom is 100% opposed to black people sharing a bathroom with her. I would tell her to get over it.

Pre HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Post HB2 North Carolina: a person who is caught video taping/peeping in a bathroom is arrested.

Pre Target transgender policy: Most Targets had single stall all gender restrooms.
Post Target transgender policy: Most Target has single stall all gender restrooms.

LGBT weren't forced to use either men or women's rooms since an alternative already existed, so no need to make a special accommodation for them. All target has done is catch a case of the 'feels'. I hope they suffer greatly and are sued for hundreds of millions the first time a sex offender takes advantage of this and molests a woman or young girl.

Target doesn't feel the need to tell folks what bathrooms to use...if you don't like that policy...use your bathroom at home where you get to set the rules.

Target doesn't feel the need to protect the basic expectations of privacy and security of vulnerable young girls and women. So far over half of a million people have voiced their displeasure with that policy.

A solution in search of a problem. I suspect it this will never affect me or my wife and kids no matter how it goes.

But I do like Target getting called out for its foray into social engineering. I hope the boycott is successful so that perhaps their stockholders will tell them to shut up and sell things.

(04-26-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Target has always been an open and inclusive company...this is nothing new for them.

In everything written and everything said about this policy and Target in this thread, this has the most truth to it.....

Target will not change their mind, no matter if this gets 1.5m signatures.