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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
The key is P5 bubble team losses. The more of these losses, particularly early in their tourney, the better. G5 bubble losses are much less significant...
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-07-2016 11:23 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote: They have a good shot at making it in but they're not a lock.
They are in......lol
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 12:01 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: (03-07-2016 11:23 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote: They have a good shot at making it in but they're not a lock.
They are in......lol
Ok. Can you tell me the other 67 teams that are in so I can get a jump start on filling out my bracket?
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-07-2016 09:41 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: They beat us in Bartow Arena. Raise your hand if you witnessed that in person.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 12:07 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote: (03-08-2016 12:01 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: (03-07-2016 11:23 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote: They have a good shot at making it in but they're not a lock.
They are in......lol
Ok. Can you tell me the other 67 teams that are in so I can get a jump start on filling out my bracket?
Yeah, me too. This is the only guy in the world who thinks Monmouth is a lock. If anything, they are a very strange case. 2-2 against the top 50. 2-2 against 51-100. 16-3 against 200+. The wins against Georgetown, ucla, usc and Notre dame will help. I'll be very interested to see how the committee handles this team.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
They've also won more road games than any other team. Road wins is something the committee usually rewards.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-07-2016 09:41 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: They beat us in Bartow Arena. Raise your hand if you witnessed that in person.
regrettably, my hand arisith herein
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
Apparently Monmouth doesn't believe it's below them or a slight against them to go on the road and play buy games against the big boy teams.... And it appears it will benefit them mightily this year. I don't think they are a lock, but they are a solid bubble team.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 11:28 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: If going on the road and playing fewer home games assured a NCAA bid every year that would offset the costs of the loss of income from season tickets, I am sure it is something UAB would consider. However it doesn't assure it and I suspect we would need to go deep in the tournament every year to offset season ticket income loss.
It's got nothing to do with perception and everything to do with economics.
I should have stated that I don't think we should go to the extreme that Monmouth did this year. However, going on the road for a couple of buy games next year would be a very good idea, IMO. You don't have much to lose from our perspective by doing that.
And you may not think it has anything to do with perception, but a lot of people on this board do. They take it as an affront that UAB would accept anything less than a home and home series with any team in the country.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 11:30 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote: (03-08-2016 11:28 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: If going on the road and playing fewer home games assured a NCAA bid every year that would offset the costs of the loss of income from season tickets, I am sure it is something UAB would consider. However it doesn't assure it and I suspect we would need to go deep in the tournament every year to offset season ticket income loss.
It's got nothing to do with perception and everything to do with economics.
I should have stated that I don't think we should go to the extreme that Monmouth did this year. However, going on the road for a couple of buy games next year would be a very good idea, IMO. You don't have much to lose from our perspective by doing that.
And you may not think it has anything to do with perception, but a lot of people on this board do. They take it as an affront that UAB would accept anything less than a home and home series with any team in the country.
And they have done it in the past for some teams. Duke, Wichita State, etc.
However, currently, we have home and home commitments with some teams, plus we have commitments to play in tournaments plus we have commitments to play so many home games.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
Admittedly, I'm not a season ticket holder. Even if I was, I'd be perfectly fine with the team playing one less home game against Hiwassee, USC upstate, etc., for a quality road buy game.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
So I'm being tongue and cheek about the "lock" thing. But what can't be denied is that Monmouth has not only done what the selection committee said mid majors needed to do for an at-large, they exceeded it. So I fully expect Monmouth to be in the Dance because it would be hard for the committee to justify their exclusion from it.
Just my opinion.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 12:04 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: I just think Haase is playing the odds. The point is to get quality RPI wins. The odds of winning a game in a buy game against a bigger school such as Duke, or Wisconsin or Kansas is not as good as playing them on a neutral court or playing what is perceived to be a good RPI mid major such as Georgia State or Stephen F. Austin or Chattanooga in a home and home.
Obviously it didn't work out this year, but the odds were better that it would.
It's the conference that needs fixing, not our schedule. We would have had a decent RPI with our schedule if the conference didn't suck. Plus, we could get better games in Bartow if teams realized that a loss to us there wouldn't damage their RPI as much as it does with CUSA the way it is.
I agree if cusa was better UAB would have an rpi in the 40s.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
They do ask mid majors to not lose to 200 plus teams as well. They have done so 3 times. Their big ooc wins look good if you see the names, but they are rpi 37, 46, 99, and 103 on paper. It's going to be close, and they definitely don't need bubble teams from the major conferences to win a game. We will see. I am by no means saying they are out, I'm just saying I can see both sides of the argument with them.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-08-2016 02:33 PM)Ramsay7884 Wrote: (03-08-2016 12:04 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: I just think Haase is playing the odds. The point is to get quality RPI wins. The odds of winning a game in a buy game against a bigger school such as Duke, or Wisconsin or Kansas is not as good as playing them on a neutral court or playing what is perceived to be a good RPI mid major such as Georgia State or Stephen F. Austin or Chattanooga in a home and home.
Obviously it didn't work out this year, but the odds were better that it would.
It's the conference that needs fixing, not our schedule. We would have had a decent RPI with our schedule if the conference didn't suck. Plus, we could get better games in Bartow if teams realized that a loss to us there wouldn't damage their RPI as much as it does with CUSA the way it is.
I agree if cusa was better UAB would have an rpi in the 40s.
If we didn't have one of the worst ooc schedules in basketball our rpi would be in the 40s too.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
Soooooo.....about that lock thing.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-07-2016 08:20 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: Like many other mid majors, no quality team wanted to play them on their homecourt. So Monmouth's coach said instead of playing a bunch of bad RPI teams, they opted to play on the road against good teams. The result:
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/s...e/Monmouth
Win or lose tonight, Monmouth will be in the Field of 68.
Whoops!
Both the ESPN and CBS talking heads thought this was a confusing no-selection. Bad news for those in sucky conferences *cough*CUSA*cough*.
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RE: OT: Monmouth played only one game @ home during their nonconference schedule.
(03-13-2016 08:01 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote: (03-07-2016 08:20 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: Like many other mid majors, no quality team wanted to play them on their homecourt. So Monmouth's coach said instead of playing a bunch of bad RPI teams, they opted to play on the road against good teams. The result:
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/s...e/Monmouth
Win or lose tonight, Monmouth will be in the Field of 68.
Whoops!
Both the ESPN and CBS talking heads thought this was a confusing no-selection. Bad news for those in sucky conferences *cough*CUSA*cough*.
The Selection Committee absolutely bent Monmouth over this evening and didn't even have the courtesy to use KY Jelly.
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