(03-07-2016 08:27 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

I remember exactly where I was, who I was watching with, and the objects I broke when Rice hit that shot

I was at the game. We missed critical foul shots; never should have come to that circus layup to beat us.

(03-07-2016 09:12 PM)HMK Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:27 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

I remember exactly where I was, who I was watching with, and the objects I broke when Rice hit that shot

I was at the game. We missed critical foul shots; never should have come to that circus layup to beat us.

I remember thinking it was impossible for us to blow the lead we had. After watching Lefty lose close games so many different ways against Dean Smith, I shouldn't have been surprised. I think some coaches radiate confidence late game and some don't.

Don't recall it being a close in layup; seemed like 10-15 feet away, but underhanded or off-balance and off the glass. It was a shot that just happened to go in.

Bobby Lutz is known down in North Carolina as "Cheating Bobby Lutz." Lutz was pretty successful at Pfeiffer College by providing cars to recruits from a dealership in Charlotte owned by his father. If memory serves me correctly, one his players from Pfeiffer (last name Harvey?) actually had a cup of coffee in the NBA. Lutz was later hired by UNC Charlotte (now just Charlotte) and his strong recruiting continued with the aid of nice "leased" cars. However, his lack of coaching ability finally caught up with him at that level. Lutz now works under one of the biggest scumbags in college basketball. He is the LAST person JMU should consider if Brady is not retained.

(03-08-2016 03:55 AM)johnjmu98 Wrote:  Bobby Lutz is known down in North Carolina as "Cheating Bobby Lutz." Lutz was pretty successful at Pfeiffer College by providing cars to recruits from a dealership in Charlotte owned by his father. If memory serves me correctly, one his players from Pfeiffer (last name Harvey?) actually had a cup of coffee in the NBA. Lutz was later hired by UNC Charlotte (now just Charlotte) and his strong recruiting continued with the aid of nice "leased" cars. However, his lack of coaching ability finally caught up with him at that level. Lutz now works under one of the biggest scumbags in college basketball. He is the LAST person JMU should consider if Brady is not retained.

I didn't know that- might be why he came up short the last few jobs that he has interviewed for. Who do you like as a prospective replacement?

(03-08-2016 07:09 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 03:55 AM)johnjmu98 Wrote:  Bobby Lutz is known down in North Carolina as "Cheating Bobby Lutz." Lutz was pretty successful at Pfeiffer College by providing cars to recruits from a dealership in Charlotte owned by his father. If memory serves me correctly, one his players from Pfeiffer (last name Harvey?) actually had a cup of coffee in the NBA. Lutz was later hired by UNC Charlotte (now just Charlotte) and his strong recruiting continued with the aid of nice "leased" cars. However, his lack of coaching ability finally caught up with him at that level. Lutz now works under one of the biggest scumbags in college basketball. He is the LAST person JMU should consider if Brady is not retained.

I didn't know that- might be why he came up short the last few jobs that he has interviewed for. Who do you like as a prospective replacement?

Just take a look at his last five seasons with Charlotte. This is after he finally got out from under the influence of Jeff Mullins and it clearly became his program. It's the same up and down roller-coaster ride we have been on during Brady's tenure. Granted, Charlotte had moved from CUSA to the Atlantic 10 which is a tougher conference for MBB, but he couldn't maintain a consistent winning team after the move and one thing we need, once our program sets sail, for it to stay upright. Inconsistency kills fan support.

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(03-07-2016 10:40 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:12 PM)HMK Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:27 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

I remember exactly where I was, who I was watching with, and the objects I broke when Rice hit that shot

I was at the game. We missed critical foul shots; never should have come to that circus layup to beat us.

I remember thinking it was impossible for us to blow the lead we had. After watching Lefty lose close games so many different ways against Dean Smith, I shouldn't have been surprised. I think some coaches radiate confidence late game and some don't.

Don't recall it being a close in layup; seemed like 10-15 feet away, but underhanded or off-balance and off the glass. It was a shot that just happened to go in.

It was a drive-the-lane, change-directions-in-mid-air, underhand circus shot off the glass. It never should have gone in, and you are right we never should have blow that lead.

All in all, it was a teaser of what was to come in the 90's: lots of good games and wins, but more heartbreak than we deserved.

Just for curiosity's sake, I googled up and coming men's basketball coaches. Bleacher Report came out with one fairly recently and it included Kevin Keatts of UNCW. Most of the guys listed, if not nearly all, were in their late 30's to early 50's and had records pretty comparable to Matt Brady. They had up and down seasons, sometimes culminating in berths to the CIT, CBI, NIT and occasionally the NCAA. Names like Scott Cherry of HP, Will Brown of Albany, Zach Spiker of Army, Jerod Haase of UAB, Andrew Toole of Robert Morris, Steve Masiello of Manhattan, etc. These guys, or at least most of them, hardly tower over Matt Brady in terms of accomplishment and they haven't always coached in leagues as good as the CAA. As the old saying goes, "be careful what you wish for!" Like others have said, Brady will rebound and will likely end up in the NCAA tournament for another school.

We should hire the Iona coach if someone else doesn't hire him first. Successful everywhere he has been and coached at the same LI HS as Bob McKillop.

I think the Iona coach makes at or above what JMU pays- they are a pretty legit mid-major. He's from Long Island too- could be in the mix at Rutgers possibly. I don't really like any of the guys that Dukes 84 had mentioned on the up and coming coaches list- they all have inconsistencies (Robert Morris guy for example had his whole team transfer last year and has been abysmal this year) and some have some real baggage. UAB and even the Manhattan coach if he thought to try to move up again despite what happened the last time would move for a major job not to JMU. That said, I prefer the strong assistant from a strong program looking for his first head coaching job- Williford or Caputo with ties to the area in terms of recruiting. Would have to investigate the Lehigh coach a little more but adjacent geographic footprint to JMU and would expect that he may have some interest in moving from the Patriot league.

I think the coach probably won't be a name to casual fans but neither was the football coach, softball coach, etc. That's ok as long as they have a good pedigree, good work ethic, can relate to players, have recruiting ties, have energy to invigorate the fan base and community, etc.

Nobody is saying Brady doesn't have a decent resume from a distance we're just saying that it's time to try a new voice and leader.

(03-08-2016 04:16 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  UAB and even the Manhattan coach if he thought to try to move up again despite what happened the last time would move for a major job not to JMU.

Of note here, especially if we're going to rag on UNCW for hiring Keatts, we should probably stay away from Masiello at Manhattan. He doesn't exactly have a perfect resume either, coming from the Pitino tree. I know I personally would have rather not have a coach that lies about graduating from college, even if Lousiville was ok with hiring him.

(03-08-2016 04:23 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:16 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  UAB and even the Manhattan coach if he thought to try to move up again despite what happened the last time would move for a major job not to JMU.

Of note here, especially if we're going to rag on UNCW for hiring Keatts, we should probably stay away from Masiello at Manhattan. He doesn't exactly have a perfect resume either, coming from the Pitino tree. I know I personally would have rather not have a coach that lies about graduating from college, even if Lousiville was ok with hiring him.

While I think the JMU job is more attractive and has more potential than we are giving it credit for I don't see Massiello even being interested- wasn't he ticketed for Central or South Florida before he had to go back to Manhattan? He would be gunning for a bigger conference gig if he left and he has a pretty fortunate situation at Manhattan. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays there for a few more years.

(03-08-2016 04:36 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:23 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:16 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  UAB and even the Manhattan coach if he thought to try to move up again despite what happened the last time would move for a major job not to JMU.

Of note here, especially if we're going to rag on UNCW for hiring Keatts, we should probably stay away from Masiello at Manhattan. He doesn't exactly have a perfect resume either, coming from the Pitino tree. I know I personally would have rather not have a coach that lies about graduating from college, even if Lousiville was ok with hiring him.

While I think the JMU job is more attractive and has more potential than we are giving it credit for I don't see Massiello even being interested- wasn't he ticketed for Central or South Florida before he had to go back to Manhattan? He would be gunning for a bigger conference gig if he left and he has a pretty fortunate situation at Manhattan. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays there for a few more years.

Manhattan is a better job..................

I vote for no coaches with "baggage" so little HC experience. JMU needs a new identity.

Tom Ostrom - Assist. coach at Dayton and a top recruiter

Matt McKillop - Assist. coach at Davidson. His father is Bob McKillop, HC at Davidson for 26 years. Time to do his own thing.

Darren Savino - Assist. Caoch at Cinci. From NJ with strong ties to the new york recruiting market. I believe he filled in a Asst. head coach when Coach Cronnen was recovering from health issues.

(03-08-2016 04:16 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I think the Iona coach makes at or above what JMU pays- they are a pretty legit mid-major. He's from Long Island too- could be in the mix at Rutgers possibly. I don't really like any of the guys that Dukes 84 had mentioned on the up and coming coaches list- they all have inconsistencies (Robert Morris guy for example had his whole team transfer last year and has been abysmal this year) and some have some real baggage. UAB and even the Manhattan coach if he thought to try to move up again despite what happened the last time would move for a major job not to JMU. That said, I prefer the strong assistant from a strong program looking for his first head coaching job- Williford or Caputo with ties to the area in terms of recruiting. Would have to investigate the Lehigh coach a little more but adjacent geographic footprint to JMU and would expect that he may have some interest in moving from the Patriot league.

I think the coach probably won't be a name to casual fans but neither was the football coach, softball coach, etc. That's ok as long as they have a good pedigree, good work ethic, can relate to players, have recruiting ties, have energy to invigorate the fan base and community, etc.

Nobody is saying Brady doesn't have a decent resume from a distance we're just saying that it's time to try a new voice and leader.

No to any assistants. The risk is far too great.

I'm afraid history is repeating itself ala the Lefty decision.

I totally agree, no assistants...Gotta have a proven coach....I like Zack Spiker of Army

We have a good head coach this is so stupid. Shouldn't even be a discussion but our AD and Admin are very sorry...

(03-08-2016 07:33 PM)lexduke398 Wrote:  We have a good head coach this is so stupid. Shouldn't even be a discussion but our AD and Admin are very sorry...

Such a good coach that less and less fans are willing to come see. Such a good coach that can't even get to the semis in 7 out of 8 years.

Three more years of greatness and attendance could be down to 2,500

Let's hire a coach that doesn't wait eight years to emphasize defense and rebounding.

(03-08-2016 06:27 PM)nyduke Wrote:  I totally agree, no assistants...Gotta have a proven coach....I like Zack Spiker of Army

Who just choked against the 8th seed in his conference tournament.

jmuduke25

Look up the history of army basketball . Since coach K they have absolutely stunk. Spiker has done more there than any other coach they ve had. 19 wins this year is an amazing job. Losing in a conference tournament can happen to anyone. His overall body of work is solid. Once again, if JMU is not going to step up they might as well keep Brady. Spiker will eventually get a bigger job and i bet hes successful there.