(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)84Breeze Wrote:  Would we consider Blaine Taylor? I know he had some issues but I really liked him as a television analyst and he has had success in the past. Just a thought. I am on the fence about Brady but whatever happens it needs to happen quickly. Extend or fire but just do it!

Eh...honestly, Blaine seems to be doing well on TV. Harrisonburg offers a lot of temptation, and coaching is high stress. It might be best for his health to stay on the sidelines.

As far Monmouth goes they actually have better facilities than ours and much better than every other team in their league.

Just google image it and you will see what I mean.

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

You're right, even made UNC's media guide. I listened to that game on the radio and shat a brick when that went in.

Nov. 24, 1989: King Rice’s bank shot at the
buzzer beats James Madison, 80-79, in the first
round of the Maui Invitational. Carolina rallies
from a 79-70 deficit with less than a minute to
play.

(03-07-2016 10:22 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  As far Monmouth goes they actually have better facilities than ours and much better than every other team in their league.

Just google image it and you will see what I mean.

I don't have to google Monmouth, I've been there. It's one step removed from a community college and yet another example of how our proud university is being eclipsed by lesser schools with better vision and leadership.

(03-07-2016 10:31 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:22 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  As far Monmouth goes they actually have better facilities than ours and much better than every other team in their league.

Just google image it and you will see what I mean.

I don't have to google Monmouth, I've been there. It's one step removed from a community college and yet another example of how our proud university is being eclipsed by lesser schools with better vision and leadership.

College basketball has become a big business. An even bigger business the last few years than it had been in years prior. When I look at facilities like those at Monmouth, like those at Towson, I draw a parallel to the technological revolution that is playing out in emerging markets. In the US we spent years building out cable, a fiber optic network, etc., only for those means of transferring data to be eclipsed by mobile broadband and satellite. In EMs, they never had that infrastructure in place, so they are going right to the new technology. All over Africa and in parts of Asia the first phone in peoples' hands is a smart/cell phone. Their first computer will likely be a tablet.

Monmouth, Towson and countless others are emerging in many ways as well. As poor as JMU's basketball facilities are, they are light-years better than those that were at these two universities initially. They are going right to cutting edge.

(03-07-2016 10:07 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)84Breeze Wrote:  Would we consider Blaine Taylor? I know he had some issues but I really liked him as a television analyst and he has had success in the past. Just a thought. I am on the fence about Brady but whatever happens it needs to happen quickly. Extend or fire but just do it!

Eh...honestly, Blaine seems to be doing well on TV. Harrisonburg offers a lot of temptation, and coaching is high stress. It might be best for his health to stay on the sidelines.

Blaine is a wonderful status quo CAA for the forseeable future candidate. He would have JMU competing in the CAA year in and year out. To fire Brady now = wanting to compete nationally, and likely in a new conference. That is absolutely the message JMU administration is sending by letting Brady walk.

(03-07-2016 10:31 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:22 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  As far Monmouth goes they actually have better facilities than ours and much better than every other team in their league.

Just google image it and you will see what I mean.

I don't have to google Monmouth, I've been there. It's one step removed from a community college and yet another example of how our proud university is being eclipsed by lesser schools with better vision and leadership.

Didn't know much about Monmouth so I looked into them. Imagine my horror to discover their US News "selectivity" level is the same as ours as is their endowment.

(03-07-2016 09:53 AM)JMUETC Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:56 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote:  I'd be shocked if the university upstaged the CAA Championship game by announcing today. Mid week would be much better timing.

does the announcement of the firing and the announcement of hiring Carr come on the same day or is there a bit of a delay. I can't remember how it works.

Great question. Id think it would come on the same day.

I also think JMU has been working actively with Carr for many months, predating Withers and his interest in the ECU job. I think the work has been holistic and contemplated the entire athletic landscape and its coaches.

I thought Jeff Bourne did a masterful job messaging the Withers/Houston transition and he came off as extremely confident. I think we will see the same type of confidence in this process because I believe it has been working for a number of months, just in case the squad floundered in March.

For active coaches/assistants, wouldn't many of them need to wait until after the NCAA tourney to interview and accept a new job?

Suspect we won't get an immediate hire, and potentially this could delay an announcement on Brady also.

With Drexel canning Bruiser now the pressure is on JMU and whether they want their underachieving coach to stick around, now that the worst one in the league no longer has a job.

Bobby Lutz turns 58 next month, but he would make an interesting candidate if MB is let go. In 12 seasons as the HC at Charlotte he made 8 post-season appearances (the NCAA tourney 5 times and the NIT 3 times). On the less impressive side of the ledger, he only advanced past the first round of the NCAAT twice, and never in the NIT, and posted 3 losing seasons out of his 12 as HC (although the year he was let go his team posted 19 wins).

Ironically, it was Lutz's success and the A-10 connection that kept Charlotte from wanting to join the CAA when UNCC was beginning FB.

(03-07-2016 12:35 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Bobby Lutz turns 58 next month, but he would make an interesting candidate if MB is let go. In 12 seasons as the HC at Charlotte he made 8 post-season appearances (the NCAA tourney 5 times and the NIT 3 times). On the less impressive side of the ledger, he only advanced past the first round of the NCAAT twice, and never in the NIT, and posted 3 losing seasons out of his 12 as HC (although the year he was let go his team posted 19 wins).

Ironically, it was Lutz's success and the A-10 connection that kept Charlotte from wanting to join the CAA when UNCC was beginning FB.

My biggest concern with Lutz is that he walked into a well run program put together by Jeff MUllins. Though he was there for a number of seasons and accomplished all you have listed, the program slowly faded until they let him go. Living right next to UNCC has kept me in-tune with their athletics.

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Going back to the initial post - some very interesting options. Bash Mason would seem to be a better fit at a metro-NY school like Wagner is, or even back at Drexel. I think Drexel takes a hard run at Dougie Overton.

I really like the three existing HC options. Very good results, and JMU should theoretically be a step up....although several of those schools are going to the NCAA's this year.....

Yeah existing I would favor the Lehigh coach or Lutz but I think I'd prefer the assistant from UVA or Miami over the existing route.

This is all great speculation about next HC's, but, I don't think JMU is getting rid of MB.

I think the flurry of tweets this morning only involved not playing in some kind of post season tournament not named NIT. That is it. Gray's reacted to it because he thought there would be at least one more game. JB said playing in these sub post season tourney's cost too much. JB probably didn't communicate that to MB clearly and that is why JB wanted to talk to him ASAP. That' it.

(03-07-2016 10:02 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 AM)2Buck Wrote:  We need to find a King Rice. What he did at Monmouth is nothing short of miraculous. Played under Dean Smith, assistant at P5 programs. We need to find a consultant that can uncover these prodigy coaches.

Been a long time but wasn't king rice the guy that hit a buzzer beater in Maui to beat JMU?

I remember exactly where I was, who I was watching with, and the objects I broke when Rice hit that shot