(02-29-2016 04:51 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Since GreenWave16 and some other Tulane fans rerouted your entire thread into a "We are too smart to accept you dumb people"; let's take a look at some cold, hard facts. Tulane's so smart they walked away from the SEC in 1962. US News & World ranks all universities in AAC and CUSA. AAC has 11 members who are ranked as National Universities and CUSA has 12. CUSA's highest ranked is Rice at No. 18 while AAC has Tulane at 41. The average ranking for AAC is 128. For CUSA it's 180. There are about 280 national universities in all with Memphis, Middle Tennessee and 5 other CUSA schools tied for No. 200. So, here is my question: How do folks at Memphis, ECU (No.194), Houston (No. 187), UCF (No. 168), USF (no. 156) and Cincy (No. 140) stomach your Bloviated and Irrelevant Bologna?

You do realize that US News rankings are moronic at worst and tragically misguided at best. They did a test of the peer review system and asked questions that couldnt be answered... Like "Where would you rank Georgia Techs Petroleum Engineering department". It universilly ranked very high, because G tech is a good engineering school. Problem is, they dont have a petroleum engineer department.

So why do the AAC look down on CUSA ....

Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607

AAC .533

MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Now take that super high average ranking and figure out that nobody here gives a **** about CUSA.

(02-29-2016 09:55 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 04:51 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Since GreenWave16 and some other Tulane fans rerouted your entire thread into a "We are too smart to accept you dumb people"; let's take a look at some cold, hard facts. Tulane's so smart they walked away from the SEC in 1962. US News & World ranks all universities in AAC and CUSA. AAC has 11 members who are ranked as National Universities and CUSA has 12. CUSA's highest ranked is Rice at No. 18 while AAC has Tulane at 41. The average ranking for AAC is 128. For CUSA it's 180. There are about 280 national universities in all with Memphis, Middle Tennessee and 5 other CUSA schools tied for No. 200. So, here is my question: How do folks at Memphis, ECU (No.194), Houston (No. 187), UCF (No. 168), USF (no. 156) and Cincy (No. 140) stomach your Bloviated and Irrelevant Bologna?

You do realize that US News rankings are moronic at worst and tragically misguided at best. They did a test of the peer review system and asked questions that couldnt be answered... Like "Where would you rank Georgia Techs Petroleum Engineering department". It universilly ranked very high, because G tech is a good engineering school. Problem is, they dont have a petroleum engineer department.

So why do the AAC look down on CUSA ....

Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607

AAC .533

MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Now take that super high average ranking and figure out that nobody here gives a **** about CUSA.

Don't even try to tell him about research, as in UC and USF in the top 50 with Temple and UCONN in the top 100, or endowments, or athletic budgets, or attendance, or freaking any measurement that will point out that no current CUSA school belongs even near this conference.

(02-29-2016 04:51 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Since GreenWave16 and some other Tulane fans rerouted your entire thread into a "We are too smart to accept you dumb people"; let's take a look at some cold, hard facts. Tulane's so smart they walked away from the SEC in 1962. US News & World ranks all universities in AAC and CUSA. AAC has 11 members who are ranked as National Universities and CUSA has 12. CUSA's highest ranked is Rice at No. 18 while AAC has Tulane at 41. The average ranking for AAC is 128. For CUSA it's 180. There are about 280 national universities in all with Memphis, Middle Tennessee and 5 other CUSA schools tied for No. 200. So, here is my question: How do folks at Memphis, ECU (No.194), Houston (No. 187), UCF (No. 168), USF (no. 156) and Cincy (No. 140) stomach your Bloviated and Irrelevant Bologna?

CUSA only has 4 ranked universities. Rice, UAB, UNC-C, and LaTech. That little "RNP" next to a schools name stands for "rank not published". It means a rank was calculated for the school, but it wasn't published. Only the top 200 are published. The "RNP" doesn't mean "tied for #201". A school with RNP could have a calculated rank of 201 or could be #275. No way to tell.

So, the reality is the AAC has 11 national universities, all are ranked in the top 200 except for Memphis.

CUSA has 12 national universities, with only 4 ranked in the top 200. Two CUSA schools are classified as regional schools (Marshall and WKU).

The only regional school in the AAC is Navy. It should be noted that all of the academies are classified as regional (which is strange, because the academies have one of the most rigorous curriculums in the nation and are among the toughest schools to get into---so, Im guessing its because they are so specialized that they don't really compare well with other universities).

As for how we stomach GW16---lol....liberal use of the ignore button.

(02-22-2016 09:44 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  pls add southern miss

Can we trade Tulsa back to C-USA?

(02-29-2016 04:51 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Since GreenWave16 and some other Tulane fans rerouted your entire thread into a "We are too smart to accept you dumb people"; let's take a look at some cold, hard facts. Tulane's so smart they walked away from the SEC in 1962. US News & World ranks all universities in AAC and CUSA. AAC has 11 members who are ranked as National Universities and CUSA has 12. CUSA's highest ranked is Rice at No. 18 while AAC has Tulane at 41. The average ranking for AAC is 128. For CUSA it's 180. There are about 280 national universities in all with Memphis, Middle Tennessee and 5 other CUSA schools tied for No. 200. So, here is my question: How do folks at Memphis, ECU (No.194), Houston (No. 187), UCF (No. 168), USF (no. 156) and Cincy (No. 140) stomach your Bloviated and Irrelevant Bologna?

Got to admit, that's a great line. :)

Congrats!

I've put the data up before. AAC gets more in aggregate federal research dollars than big 12. Big 12 slightly ahead on a per capita basis. AAC is without question a power league institutionally....which is the harder part of the battle.

(03-01-2016 04:09 PM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  I've put the data up before. AAC gets more in aggregate federal research dollars than big 12. Big 12 slightly ahead on a per capita basis. AAC is without question a power league institutionally....which is the harder part of the battle.

You have no idea how annoyed I get about US News rankings. They have USF at something stupid like 152 and yet every research ranking has us top 50. Patents... top 10.

They mark us down for stupid crap like not having enough people living on campus... and thats mainly because we have MASSIVE amounts of apartments within 2 miles of the university, so there isnt a need for more on campus housing.

THey also like to hammer us for student to teacher ratio... yep, cause we have 50K kids on the campus and when it comes to Freshman english 1 and other classes like that, we pack in a couple hundred into a mini theater. Its easier to have small class size when youve only got 20K students.... really has nothing to do with the quality of education.

Then the worst part is the peer rankings. Funny how Big 10 professors always rate other Big 10 schools as being better... so does the ACC, Pac 12... etc.

This is why I dont even use US News anymore. USF is a freaking research powerhouse and thats why we bring in hundreds of millions in research. If we werent top notch, does anybody really think that all these funding sources would be sending cash our way?
Our school has a budget of $1.5 billion and an estimated $11 billion impact on the tampa bay area.... and supposedly were not close to top 100. There are SOO many on that list that dont even touch what we do.


The ranking system is a joke. We know what we have in Tampa.

(ends rant)

http://www.ods.usf.edu/plans/strategic/

Kind of interesting article by SBNation: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nferencesm


That would be a shake up to say the least.

(03-02-2016 10:09 AM)App10 Wrote:  Kind of interesting article by SBNation: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nferencesm


That would be a shake up to say the least.

Link doesn't work.

Wonder if this is what he is referring to

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...onferences

(03-02-2016 10:27 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Wonder if this is what he is referring to

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...onferences

Basically, this article appears to be a I need to write a fairy tale article to keep my job.

(03-02-2016 10:27 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Wonder if this is what he is referring to

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...onferences

Yeah that was the link. I'm sure that scenario would leave a bunch of you pretty pissed but I wouldn't mind it haha. And yes, I do know it's strictly hypothetical but it's a good message board topic IMO.

(03-02-2016 10:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 10:27 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Wonder if this is what he is referring to

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...onferences

Basically, I need to rite a fairy tale article to keep my job.

Write* and I wouldn't say it's complete fairy tale/fiction but at this point yes it is. More than likely in the future it would make more sense for G5 conferences to regionalize. A lot to be seen though.

Lol...typical, we get stuck in the worst of these fantasy conferences. Reads like a DavidSt post.

(03-02-2016 10:40 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 10:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 10:27 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Wonder if this is what he is referring to

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...onferences

Basically, I need to rite a fairy tale article to keep my job.

Write* and I wouldn't say it's complete fairy tale/fiction but at this point yes it is. More than likely in the future it would make more sense for G5 conferences to regionalize. A lot to be seen though.

lol he's a UofL fan. they don't really put that much into academics. The ACC took UofL...while holding their noses.

(03-02-2016 11:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Lol...typical, we get stuck in the worst of these fantasy conferences. Reads like a DavidSt post.

For real. Houston to Sun Belt?????????

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(02-29-2016 09:55 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 04:51 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Since GreenWave16 and some other Tulane fans rerouted your entire thread into a "We are too smart to accept you dumb people"; let's take a look at some cold, hard facts. Tulane's so smart they walked away from the SEC in 1962. US News & World ranks all universities in AAC and CUSA. AAC has 11 members who are ranked as National Universities and CUSA has 12. CUSA's highest ranked is Rice at No. 18 while AAC has Tulane at 41. The average ranking for AAC is 128. For CUSA it's 180. There are about 280 national universities in all with Memphis, Middle Tennessee and 5 other CUSA schools tied for No. 200. So, here is my question: How do folks at Memphis, ECU (No.194), Houston (No. 187), UCF (No. 168), USF (no. 156) and Cincy (No. 140) stomach your Bloviated and Irrelevant Bologna?

You do realize that US News rankings are moronic at worst and tragically misguided at best. They did a test of the peer review system and asked questions that couldnt be answered... Like "Where would you rank Georgia Techs Petroleum Engineering department". It universilly ranked very high, because G tech is a good engineering school. Problem is, they dont have a petroleum engineer department.

So why do the AAC look down on CUSA ....

Here are the final 2015 power ratings by conference:

SEC .680
Pac-12 .653
B1G .651
Big XII .609
ACC .607

AAC .533

MAC .468
MWC .461
C-USA .418
Sun Belt .416

Now take that super high average ranking and figure out that nobody here gives a **** about CUSA.

Lol