(02-09-2016 07:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 06:29 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." -Vladimir Lenin

Obama was born in Kenya.
The Clinton's have had nearly 40 people killed.

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(02-09-2016 07:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 06:29 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." -Vladimir Lenin

Obama was born in Kenya.
The Clinton's have had nearly 40 people killed.

Are you calling Obamas grandmother in Kenya a liar? Cause she's the one that said Obama was born "right down the road."

Quote:Under normal circumstances, Mills would have had her clearance terminated when she left the department. But in January 2014, according to the State Department letter, Clinton designated Mills “to assist in her research.” Mills was the one who reviewed Clinton’s emails before select documents were handed over to the State Department, and others were deleted.

Dan Maguire, a former strategic planner with Africom who has 46 years combined service, told Fox News his current and former colleagues are deeply concerned a double standard is at play.

"Had this happened to someone serving in the government, their clearance would have already been pulled, and certainly they would be under investigation. And depending on the level of disclosure, it's entirely possible they would be under pretrial confinement for that matter," Maguire explained. "There is a feeling the administration may want to sweep this under the rug.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt3

(02-29-2016 10:36 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

Quote:Under normal circumstances, Mills would have had her clearance terminated when she left the department. But in January 2014, according to the State Department letter, Clinton designated Mills “to assist in her research.” Mills was the one who reviewed Clinton’s emails before select documents were handed over to the State Department, and others were deleted.

Dan Maguire, a former strategic planner with Africom who has 46 years combined service, told Fox News his current and former colleagues are deeply concerned a double standard is at play.

"Had this happened to someone serving in the government, their clearance would have already been pulled, and certainly they would be under investigation. And depending on the level of disclosure, it's entirely possible they would be under pretrial confinement for that matter," Maguire explained. "There is a feeling the administration may want to sweep this under the rug.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt3

It's not a "feeling" - it is exactly what is occurring. It is blatantly obvious that those in high government places are not/will not be subject to the same laws that lower level people are.

There was a time when the media to a degree acted as the eyes of the people and would expose abuses by those in high places when they found them. Today - if the lawbreaker has a "D" next to their name, the "mainstream media" all but colludes to bury and hide any wrongdoing, because, well you know - they're all on the same team..........

(02-29-2016 10:47 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:36 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

Quote:Under normal circumstances, Mills would have had her clearance terminated when she left the department. But in January 2014, according to the State Department letter, Clinton designated Mills “to assist in her research.” Mills was the one who reviewed Clinton’s emails before select documents were handed over to the State Department, and others were deleted.

Dan Maguire, a former strategic planner with Africom who has 46 years combined service, told Fox News his current and former colleagues are deeply concerned a double standard is at play.

"Had this happened to someone serving in the government, their clearance would have already been pulled, and certainly they would be under investigation. And depending on the level of disclosure, it's entirely possible they would be under pretrial confinement for that matter," Maguire explained. "There is a feeling the administration may want to sweep this under the rug.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/...tcmp=hpbt3

It's not a "feeling" - it is exactly what is occurring. It is blatantly obvious that those in high government places are not/will not be subject to the same laws that lower level people are.

There was a time when the media to a degree acted as the eyes of the people and would expose abuses by those in high places when they found them. Today - if the lawbreaker has a "D" next to their name, the "mainstream media" all but colludes to bury and hide any wrongdoing, because, well you know - they're all on the same team..........

The problem for the intelligence agencies is that it will make it more difficult to go after those who mishandle data in the future.

I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

(02-29-2016 12:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

I can go along with this - I just can't fathom that the Clinton's had NO knowledge of any of this - particularly given that it concerned her emails and her server...

I just can't square with her getting off scott free. Would Mill's have been involved in this at all if she weren't trying to cover Hillary's a$$??

(02-29-2016 04:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 12:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

I can go along with this - I just can't fathom that the Clinton's had NO knowledge of any of this - particularly given that it concerned her emails and her server...

I just can't square with her getting off scott free. Would Mill's have been involved in this at all if she weren't trying to cover Hillary's a$$??

Note what I said. I'm fine with Mills taking the rap if she pays dearly. Problem is, if they try to make her pay dearly, she's going to sing to save her own ass. And that's when it gets problematic for Hillary.

Lerner, Mills, you name it. That's where it gets screwed up IMO. You pick somebody down the line to take the fall, then don't do anything to the person down the line. It's how bureaucracies work. You take the fall and we'll cover your ass. Circle the wagons time.

(02-29-2016 04:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 04:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 12:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

I can go along with this - I just can't fathom that the Clinton's had NO knowledge of any of this - particularly given that it concerned her emails and her server...

I just can't square with her getting off scott free. Would Mill's have been involved in this at all if she weren't trying to cover Hillary's a$$??

Note what I said. I'm fine with Mills taking the rap if she pays dearly. Problem is, if they try to make her pay dearly, she's going to sing to save her own ass. And that's when it gets problematic for Hillary.

Lerner, Mills, you name it. That's where it gets screwed up IMO. You pick somebody down the line to take the fall, then don't do anything to the person down the line. It's how bureaucracies work. You take the fall and we'll cover your ass. Circle the wagons time.

interesting.....so her worth is more than mine......

you nailed it.....

(02-29-2016 12:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

She was Hill's Chief of Staff and Hill's #1 obstructionist. I don't think there is a single person who is more anti-FOIA than Mills. And from what I hear, Mills did the email server scrub before handing it over to DoS. She stinks of rat sh!t more than anyone else with all of this.

(02-29-2016 06:02 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 12:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:09 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  I've said it before. Mills is the mastermind of this whole ordeal. She, more than Clinton herself, should be locked up. If Clinton gets out of this without a scratch and Mills gets thrown into Leavenworth for 10+ years, I'd be satisfied.

If that's the way the facts shake out, I'm 100% okay with this. What I've said repeatedly about the IRS scandal, about Benghazi, and about this is that I want whoever is responsible to get hammered. I don't know who screwed up, but I know somebody did, and whoever did needs to fry for it (using the verb figuratively, not literally). This circle the wagons mentality has to cease.

If Mills does 20 hard time (not Club Fed) and Hillary skates out, and that's what the facts support (and they may, although I tend to doubt it), then I'm fine with that. Unlike the stupid republicans, I'm not nearly as interested in hanging Hillary's scalp on the wall as I am making sure that whoever actually did screw up pays for it big-time.

Hell, I've already voted for Hillary once this primary season.

She was Hill's Chief of Staff and Hill's #1 obstructionist. I don't think there is a single person who is more anti-FOIA than Mills. And from what I hear, Mills did the email server scrub before handing it over to DoS. She stinks of rat sh!t more than anyone else with all of this.

just remember one thingy.......

both knew....if they both didn't, then one's clitoris swelled more than the other.....

just think about it pragmatic terms.....

disclaimer: to be clear.....I agree

More right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back into play.........

(03-08-2016 11:27 AM)Crebman Wrote:  More right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back into play.........

That's patently unfair as Mach has given up posting for Lent.

(03-08-2016 11:29 AM)Crebman Wrote:  Still in the right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back to the top!!

drip, drip, drip.

She is on record over and over again making claims with regard to her email that are being unraveled as total lies. I just hope the FBI and JoD have the balls to go through with prosecution.

(03-08-2016 11:30 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 11:27 AM)Crebman Wrote:  More right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back into play.........

That's patently unfair as Mach has given up posting for Lent.

....he could cheat just a little!!

(03-08-2016 11:32 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 11:29 AM)Crebman Wrote:  Still in the right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back to the top!!

drip, drip, drip.

She is on record over and over again making claims with regard to her email that are being unraveled as total lies. I just hope the FBI and JoD have the balls to go through with prosecution.

My guess is the FBI does - not sure about DOJ. Don't forget, both are part of the Executive Branch and we know what that means..........

(03-08-2016 11:33 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 11:30 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 11:27 AM)Crebman Wrote:  More right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back into play.........

That's patently unfair as Mach has given up posting for Lent.

....he could cheat just a little!!

its ok. Easter will be here soon enough,and this scandal aint disappearing.

in fact, it will go from


to

(03-08-2016 11:27 AM)Crebman Wrote:  More right wing echo chamber??

http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...t-blew-up/

Couldn't resist bringing this back into play.........

This is the part Mach and Tom just simply refuse to understand.

Quote:The Post’s latest revelations, however, are particularly damning. It found that three-quarters of the classified emails she sent were written by Clinton herself.

Saying she didn’t know the information was classified because it wasn’t marked makes no sense, since she was the one who would have been responsible for marking it in the first place.

And, since she claims that she was “well aware of the classification requirements,” she can’t now claim that she was ignorant of the nature of the information she was sending.

They'll continue to deny though. Until the bitter end.

Wow...an unnamed editorial from Investors Business Daily, who normally publishes right-wing nonsense from the likes of whack jobs Brent Bozell and Thomas Sowell. Color me unimpressed.

Especially with the foolishness you quoted. When she talks about stuff not being classified, she's referring to stuff she received, not what she sent. As the Secretary of State and generator of her e-mails, according to our resident internet security clearance expert Owl Numbers, she would get to determine if her e-mail should be classified. She made the determination that it wasn't. So yes, when agencies now say it is, she then says it's due to "department squabbles".

I get it, you think she should have known so you don't trust her. So you won't be voting for her. Congratulations.

So yes, I understand everything just fine.