But how are we going to feel if Penny doesn't succeed - remember Finch and how he was treated, despite some very good years. Another episode like that could ruin the Memphis BB program for years to come, especially after JP. And we would jeopardize losing Penny as an active supporter of the program thereafter (& I'm not talking about $$). Not worth it........it will never end well

(01-26-2016 11:11 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  But how are we going to feel if Penny doesn't succeed - remember Finch and how he was treated, despite some very good years. Another episode like that could ruin the Memphis BB program for years to come, especially after JP. And we would jeopardize losing Penny as an active supporter of the program thereafter (& I'm not talking about $$). Not worth it........it will never end well

That's my worry as well. A whole big can of worms will open up. You know how this city is about such things.

(01-26-2016 09:40 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  I saw Penny run several practices for Lester Jr. at the Methodist Hospital Gym in Midtown. I was really impressed. He drilled them in running plays. Real plays that had an option 1, 2 and 3. He definitely knew how to run a practice.

Exactly.

(01-26-2016 09:54 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 09:43 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  he'd be a great college head coach...at CBU or LOC

He coaches the #1 ranked HS team in Tennessee. That means he has probably (lol) the best team in Shelby County. That's better basketball than is played at CBU or LOC right there.

It's better than what's played at UofM right now.

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Are you drinking?? People know who Penny is.

(01-26-2016 11:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 09:54 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 09:43 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  he'd be a great college head coach...at CBU or LOC

He coaches the #1 ranked HS team in Tennessee. That means he has probably (lol) the best team in Shelby County. That's better basketball than is played at CBU or LOC right there.

It's better than what's played at UofM right now.

I don't know if Penny can run a DI program or not.

What I do know is that Penny has tremendous ties throughout the basketball world.

Whether that pays dividends at the DI level, I have no idea, but would guess that it can't hurt.

(01-26-2016 11:09 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:34 AM)HiTiger Wrote:  No thanks, we just got done trying to the inexperienced HC experiment and it set us back 7 years.

Sadly JP isn't going anywhere unless its by his own doing and by that time, should it ever happen, there could be better options.

He didn't set us back 7 years, that's ridiculous. We were nationally relevant except for the last 2 years. We weren't as relevant as we were w/ Cal (duh) & we didn't always meet expectations, but we were relevant. The setback started last year...

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

One of the single dumbest things I've ever read on this board.

yep

(01-26-2016 11:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Are you drinking?? People know who Penny is.

And Nike for sure does. He still has a shoe even

(01-26-2016 10:17 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Good point. Penny has been out of the NBA for almost a decade and out of the national spotlight for longer than that. Recruiting might be a chore.

Kids still know Penny because of the Air Pennys, sneakers are a big part of urban culture and the Air Pennys are some of the most popular of all time. Nike still makes them and Penny has been out of the league for years.

(01-26-2016 11:11 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  But how are we going to feel if Penny doesn't succeed - remember Finch and how he was treated, despite some very good years. Another episode like that could ruin the Memphis BB program for years to come, especially after JP. And we would jeopardize losing Penny as an active supporter of the program thereafter (& I'm not talking about $$). Not worth it........it will never end well

(01-26-2016 11:19 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 11:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 09:54 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 09:43 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  he'd be a great college head coach...at CBU or LOC

He coaches the #1 ranked HS team in Tennessee. That means he has probably (lol) the best team in Shelby County. That's better basketball than is played at CBU or LOC right there.

It's better than what's played at UofM right now.

I don't know if Penny can run a DI program or not.

What I do know is that Penny has tremendous ties throughout the basketball world.

Whether that pays dividends at the DI level, I have no idea, but would guess that it can't hurt.

Don't feel bad...no one knows. Even the ones acting like they do...

I just find it funny that we are so sure he will fail, yet some are totally sold on guys like Steve Forbes and Will Wade.

Don't get me wrong, those 2 would probably be fine...but they haven't proven much. More than Penny, sure...but it's not like we are talking Penny vs. Archie Miller...

(01-26-2016 10:56 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:42 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:40 AM)wylioats Wrote:  It still pains me to this day on how Larry Finch was treated and how his firing took place, would never want to take the chance on the same thing happening to Penny if things don't work out. Nope, keep playing golf Penny and supporting our University, you don't need this headache.

maybe he feels a burning desire to compete??

We have two examples to go on in the same circumstance.

Fred Hoiberg

Clyde Drexler


One worked and one didn't

Big risk, big reward. A program like Memphis will never get anywhere playing it safe.

(01-26-2016 11:26 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:56 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:42 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:40 AM)wylioats Wrote:  It still pains me to this day on how Larry Finch was treated and how his firing took place, would never want to take the chance on the same thing happening to Penny if things don't work out. Nope, keep playing golf Penny and supporting our University, you don't need this headache.

maybe he feels a burning desire to compete??

We have two examples to go on in the same circumstance.

Fred Hoiberg

Clyde Drexler


One worked and one didn't

Big risk, big reward. A program like Memphis will never get anywhere playing it safe.

yep. cal aint coming back

(01-26-2016 11:27 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 11:26 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:56 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:42 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:40 AM)wylioats Wrote:  It still pains me to this day on how Larry Finch was treated and how his firing took place, would never want to take the chance on the same thing happening to Penny if things don't work out. Nope, keep playing golf Penny and supporting our University, you don't need this headache.

maybe he feels a burning desire to compete??

We have two examples to go on in the same circumstance.

Fred Hoiberg

Clyde Drexler


One worked and one didn't

Big risk, big reward. A program like Memphis will never get anywhere playing it safe.

yep. cal aint coming back

And we don't have to money to pay off Opie Taylor and get a Pearl or a Miller

(01-26-2016 11:28 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 11:27 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 11:26 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:56 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:42 AM)btiger Wrote:  maybe he feels a burning desire to compete??

We have two examples to go on in the same circumstance.

Fred Hoiberg

Clyde Drexler


One worked and one didn't

Big risk, big reward. A program like Memphis will never get anywhere playing it safe.

yep. cal aint coming back

And we don't have to money to pay off Opie Taylor and get a Pearl or a Miller

Maybe Mr Robinson in Munford that won the Powerball is a big Tiger fan??

(01-26-2016 10:21 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:17 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Good point. Penny has been out of the NBA for almost a decade and out of the national spotlight for longer than that. Recruiting might be a chore.

but he has connections where all big-time recruits make their college choice.....shoe companies

so does 30 other big time basketball coaches.

Bobby Hurley is pretty much Fred Hoiberg as well - he spent a couple of years as an assistant to Danny, but it's not like he had outstanding experience either. Did well at Buffalo, not sure how he's faring at AZST right now.

And Chris Mullin at St. John's is a wait and see - he's taking his lumps in year one, but has a lot of youth - time will tell with that hire.

(01-26-2016 11:31 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:21 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:17 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Good point. Penny has been out of the NBA for almost a decade and out of the national spotlight for longer than that. Recruiting might be a chore.

but he has connections where all big-time recruits make their college choice.....shoe companies

so does 30 other big time basketball coaches.

Who we have almost 0 chance at hiring.

(01-26-2016 11:31 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:21 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:17 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Good point. Penny has been out of the NBA for almost a decade and out of the national spotlight for longer than that. Recruiting might be a chore.

but he has connections where all big-time recruits make their college choice.....shoe companies

so does 30 other big time basketball coaches.

How many of those other coaches have their own shoe?

(01-26-2016 11:31 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:21 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:17 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  you see him actually on the road doing the recruiting grind? Remember, the kids he will be recruiting outside of Memphis have no clue who he is.

Good point. Penny has been out of the NBA for almost a decade and out of the national spotlight for longer than that. Recruiting might be a chore.

but he has connections where all big-time recruits make their college choice.....shoe companies

so does 30 other big time basketball coaches.

and they aint coming here either