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RE: Realignment Isn't Done
How soon you forget Louisiana Tech is consistently 4 TDs better than @ Lafayette
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(01-26-2016 12:16 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 09:08 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  What would help the Belt stay together and raise it's perception?

If it is to be believed that higher perception raises the interest of the average viewer - then said raise of perception should help the ratings shouldn't it?

I believe ESPN holds the keys to helping themselves and the Belt in the process. The Sun Belt is their product.

IF ESPN makes our new TV deal more valuable than the CUSA deal then we are more likely to stay put aren't we? And if that results in Sun Belt teams turning down CUSA, wouldn't that raise some eyebrows and even the perception of our conference?

Of course nobody seems to get officially invited without the new conference knowing in advance that they will say yes, so.... ??

Still, ESPN holds the keys to the opinion of the average Joe come consideration of our new pay out. They should consider that low balling our conference devalues their investment. They should consider the advantage of having a higher ranked/prestigious/perceived G5 and the impact that will/could have on viewers and ratings of the games that they hold the rights to.

I think Disney has deeper pockets than Fox. Will they invest in their own/our future? We will see.
Our TV deal is already potentially better than some G5 leagues simply because it is with ESPN. A deal with ESPN is far more valuable than other networks so they do not have to pay as much to secure content. That is okay because we get more in return. I know that I have started watching more and more of our games (FB, BB, volleyball) on my phone with the ESPN app or on the ECE channels. The weeknight games are great for the league as well (sucks for the home team of course) as they draw lots of eyeballs.

The table is set. All we have to do is start scheduling more favorably.

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We might as well merge conferences because apparently we are already merging message boards.

Or what if all the CUSA posters come over here, and we all go over to the CUSA board. Since those both seem to already be happening, why not go the whole way.
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(01-26-2016 06:18 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  How soon you forget Louisiana Tech is consistently 4 TDs better than @ Lafayette

And you Gave NWST a $10k firework show for their victory on your home field...I'm sure they appreciated that.
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(01-26-2016 08:16 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 06:18 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  How soon you forget Louisiana Tech is consistently 4 TDs better than @ Lafayette

And you Gave NWST a $10k firework show for their victory on your home field...I'm sure they appreciated that.

And made a total azz of themselves on that televised USM game. And were a big reason that the ratings tanked, hotel $ was down, etc., for the no bowl. Too bad the @ruston fan base doesn't support their team. All they seem good for is to come trolling onto our boards....because you know, they have all that separation. Lol at the pitiful little hillbillies.
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(01-26-2016 08:37 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  This staff rivals all G5 FBS programs and id argue this has the looks of a P5 coaching staff. Call me crazy!

Just hoping to inject some humor into this thread. Found this gem on the JMU board (talking about their new coaching staff). 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao
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(01-26-2016 03:19 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 01:16 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

Actually, the 17 games we played against P5 schools is not the issue. The other G5 conferences played a higher number of games against P5 schools:

AAC 10-15 vs. P5 schools
MAC 4-21 vs. P5 schools
MWC 3-21 vs. P5 schools
CUSA 2-21 vs. P5 schools

Our 17 games were really not that much compared to the others. We just need wins. We will again play 17 games against P5 schools and we need to come out with at least a few wins. We can't go 0-17 again

Our biggest problem is which P5's we play. Just due to geography we're playing mostly SEC and southern ACC schools. The MAC plays mostly Big 10 which we all know aren't very good once you get past the top 4 schools. The MWC plays the Big 12 which has a bunch of dogs, and the PAC 12 which also has a good number of below average teams.

No, that is not the reason the SBC is 0-17. It was just bad football. It is not "due to geography." The SEC offers more money games. SBC schools will go wherever the money is at. The Pac-12 schools only offered four money games to G5 schools this season. Three of the four went to Sun Belt schools. Most of the Pac-12 plays home-and-home games with MWC schools. The Pac-12 schools play a nine game conference schedule. The SEC plays an eight game conference schedule. The SEC has 14 more OOC games to offer or potentially 14 more money games.

I can look at the Sagarin ratings by conference for 2015 and it looks like this:

1. SEC West
2. PAC-12 North
3. BIG 12
4. PAC-12 South
5. Big Ten-East
6. ACC-Coastal
7. ACC-Atlantic
8. Big Ten-West
9. SEC-East

The Big 12 and PAC-12 look pretty good. I just don't see a bunch of dogs and below average teams. The SEC West was the best division in college football and Alabama was the best team. But top to bottom the PAC-12 and the Big 12 were the best in college football.
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(01-25-2016 02:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 02:00 PM)panama Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 12:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 12:20 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 12:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Haha.

4 out of the last 5 Sun Belt championship titles says that stAte is already the "head honcho in the SBC going forward."

Except two of the competing teams that challenge your thrown pot have only been in the league for 2 years...so 1 out of 2 years AState has won when it mattered 04-cheers

Yes, but we did beat half of CUSA for our other two titles. Using Panama's logic, that has to count like triple.
I apologize for using my vast influence to put CUSA ahead of the SBC for the past 15 years.

It's not about the last 15 years, it's about right now. Do you really think that FIU, FAU, and North Texas, who barely did anything during their time in the SBC are superior to the rest of us now because their market got them an invite from another conference?

The same theory exists for Charlotte, UTSA, and Old Dominion.

I would like to kick someones backside for pulling those 6.
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(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact
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(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

Dude, REALLY??? You are in a conference with 14 teams and we have the fewest number of schools in D-I and you are flaming us because we don't have a Top 25 every year? REALLY???

In a top-heavy, over-bloated conference full of pansies, you'd better DAMN well have a team in the Top 25 EVERY... EVERY frigging year or you're BEYOND pathetic! Do you understand math? If so, you'd know your conference represents WELL over 10% of FBS teams. If you fail to have a Top 25 EVERY year you'd best just fold that joke of a conference of yours and try again.

Keep your BS to your own COOSA board because the crap don't wash here. C-USA is the most pathetic conference in America RPI-wise. Google it. And yet, you beat your chest because your last-ranked conference has a Top 25 who'd (in my opinion) get WAXED by GaSo any day of the week?

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(01-26-2016 11:32 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Currently, 65 members in the "P5". Who do you think they'd rather be in a conference with -- Boise State or San Diego State? Boise State or Colorado State? 65-0 for SDSU and maybe 64-1 for CSU (the team in Boulder might vote to keep them out).

I think you get it.

Maybe we're both looking at it all wrong, though.
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(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

Wait a minute, so you're saying WKU got ranked on the coattails of CUSA's historical reputation or not? I'm confused.

I do know that App State got multiple votes in the final AP poll in spite of not having a P5 win, having a Sun Belt loss, and their best win being a Sun Belt team. Whether it's perception or reality, I don't worry about not being able to get a ranking we might deserve because of our conference.

Also, anyone who actually pay attention to the non-major conference enough to know that GS and App State winning in the Sun Belt watched the two teams go 5-0 in G5 non-conference competition and 3-0 against top MAC teams.
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(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

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(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

I can't wait to see WKU schedule App for a home and home. I'll be smiling form ear to ear when we wipe the floor with you wannabes.
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RE: Realignment Isn't Done
(01-27-2016 10:06 AM)rknj8993 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

I can't wait to see WKU schedule App for a home and home. I'll be smiling form ear to ear when we wipe the floor with you wannabes.

Same for them scheduling Georgia Southern.
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The post Brandon Doughety WKU will be interesting. That guy was a P5 QB carrying the team on his back. I'm thinking there will be a dropoff next year.
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RE: Realignment Isn't Done
(01-27-2016 10:35 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 10:06 AM)rknj8993 Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

I can't wait to see WKU schedule App for a home and home. I'll be smiling form ear to ear when we wipe the floor with you wannabes.

Same for them scheduling Georgia Southern.

This is when Southern and App fans should be going on social media and performing a Trump on those WKU fools. Those jokers won't schedule games vs either of us.
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RE: Realignment Isn't Done
(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:04 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to stop playing 17 P5 games a season, that number should be closer to 13 or 14 and that's only if we have 2-3 of them at a home site.

We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

Hahahaha Top 20? You guys did not beat a single P5 team last year, instead beating 11 G5 opponents. You werre ranked because Pollsters who don't follow CUSA, felt the need to throw a bone to a G5 school other than Houston, and you got that bone.

Meanwhile, as you rest on the laurels of the great runs made by Houston, Central Florida, Tulsa, and Tulane while they were in CUSA...it might be worth pointing out that none of those teams play in CUSA anymore. Which is basically the entire reason we're pointing out all of this.

As for TV contract, it's all about ratings and content. Like it or not, CUSA, the MAC, and the SBC, all finished with very similar ratings this year. ESPN is giving the MAC roughly 800K per team next year. It stands to reason that the Sun Belt, with basically the same ratings, can pull off something much closer to either of you, in a time when ESPN is trying more than ever to fill content.
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(01-27-2016 04:52 AM)airtroop Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

Dude, REALLY??? You are in a conference with 14 teams and we have the fewest number of schools in D-I and you are flaming us because we don't have a Top 25 every year? REALLY???

In a top-heavy, over-bloated conference full of pansies, you'd better DAMN well have a team in the Top 25 EVERY... EVERY frigging year or you're BEYOND pathetic! Do you understand math? If so, you'd know your conference represents WELL over 10% of FBS teams. If you fail to have a Top 25 EVERY year you'd best just fold that joke of a conference of yours and try again.

Keep your BS to your own COOSA board because the crap don't wash here. C-USA is the most pathetic conference in America RPI-wise. Google it. And yet, you beat your chest because your last-ranked conference has a Top 25 who'd (in my opinion) get WAXED by GaSo any day of the week?

03-lmfao


Not only all that, but WKU has some ugly uniforms. They look like XFL rejects. And that mascot thing looks like somebody's bad idea of a dick joke.

Beavis: "Hey, let's see if we can make a mascot that looks like a ***** and get away with it."

Butthead: "WKU likes it. They'll bite. Heh-heh."
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