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the caa up to 8th and jmu at 87 with only a handful of ooc games left, only one spot behind the a10.

cusa and sb at 18th and 19th

mason 197
VCU 143
ODU 215


haters will find something to hate......

I do wish Yaeger had been more aggressive years ago. Imagine if we had kept Richmond, Mason, ODU, VCU and poached GW and Davidson? that would be one hell of a hoops conference with great geographical rivalries.

Go Dukes

I'm surprised that with the recent week that the CAA moved up from 11th to 8th. That's a pretty impressive ranking given last year's finish at 20.

If you get a chance, watch this week's Brady presser. I'm amazed at his recall of particular plays and what guys should have done or did do, both offensively and defensively. He really sees the court well after years of studying the game. I also think that Mike Deane has helped him on the defensive side of the ball. Deane's hiring has coincided with much better defensive play.

I am surprised this is not getting more attention. CAA is 8th - wow! Doesn't sound like a 16-seed kind of year, but then again, it may be a log-jam atop the standings heading into the tourney in March with as even as the conference is this year. If two teams can own the conference, who knows - maybe an unlikely two bid year? It's not likely, but not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

As great as RPI is, the SOS is still a major concern at 19th. Ugh. As close as we are in RPI with teams from the A10, the SOS really sets the conferences apart by a wide margin. It's cool to be in the same neighborhood as the AAC. Unfortunately, we don't have a nationally ranked team like they do (SMU). Conference play should be fun and exciting this year - I hope the fans and students come out and support this team for crucial conference games.

(12-22-2015 03:58 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I'm surprised that with the recent week that the CAA moved up from 11th to 8th. That's a pretty impressive ranking given last year's finish at 20.

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2015/conferencerpi lists the CAA as 20th out of 32 conferences last season, but the CAA was behind New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), the only independent, so it was actually the 19th best conference.

(12-23-2015 04:46 PM)Yesolitis Wrote:  I am surprised this is not getting more attention. CAA is 8th - wow! Doesn't sound like a 16-seed kind of year, but then again, it may be a log-jam atop the standings heading into the tourney in March with as even as the conference is this year. If two teams can own the conference, who knows - maybe an unlikely two bid year? It's not likely, but not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

If you go by the current RPI, five teams (Hofstra, JMU, W&M, C of C, and NU) would certainly be better than a 16 seed, two teams (Elon and UNCW) might get a 16 seed and might get better, and three teams (UD, TU, and DU) would get a 16 seed and probably have to start in the First Four.

(11-18-2015 03:44 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  What's interesting is most of the SOS comes from games against other CAA teams, not from OOC.

Top 4 CAA Teams and their top 2 RPI scheduled games from OOC:
#1 Hofstra - #62 LaSalle, #85 FAU
#2 Northeastern - #78 Miami(OH), #85 FAU
#4 UNCW - #111 Radford, #186 ETSU
#22 JMU - #38 St. Mary's, #86 WVU

We need to root for Hofstra, NE, UNCW to win all their OOC games ... don't see this lasting for long though, the whole thing is Bizarro-land.

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JMU played Mount St Marys RPI# 314 - St Mary's is on the West Coast

CAA is having its strongest year since Kenpom started his ratings in 2002 currently ranked 9th.

5 teams currently in Top 100 (including JMU) help the cause. Also no teams in the 300s or mid to low 200s. Not going to have any at large teams barring some monster conference run but its going to be a hell of a conference tournament/season.

(12-25-2015 01:42 PM)62Indian Wrote:  

(11-18-2015 03:44 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  What's interesting is most of the SOS comes from games against other CAA teams, not from OOC.

Top 4 CAA Teams and their top 2 RPI scheduled games from OOC:
#1 Hofstra - #62 LaSalle, #85 FAU
#2 Northeastern - #78 Miami(OH), #85 FAU
#4 UNCW - #111 Radford, #186 ETSU
#22 JMU - #38 St. Mary's, #86 WVU

We need to root for Hofstra, NE, UNCW to win all their OOC games ... don't see this lasting for long though, the whole thing is Bizarro-land.

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JMU played Mount St Marys RPI# 314 - St Mary's is on the West Coast

Yes, Mount St. Mary's is in Maryland and is different from St. Mary's. The RPI from Warren Nolan has JMU's best opponents so far being West Viriginia (49th) and Oral Roberts (68th).

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_210_Men.html

According to this site- COC is the highest rated team in the CAA in terms of RPI at this point. They are 48 so the game on NYE is a big game for a few reasons. UT Martin is listed here as a doubly bad loss (post 250 RPI) while Richmond is listed as a quality win.

CAA is def better this year than recent years, but even if the season were to end today under any measure we'd be a one team conference no matter who won the tournament. Sags have one top 100 team.

CofC RPI 48 or W&M 52 would not get an at-large. This is only a part of the equation - everything else is less favorable. The top teams are a better then recent top CAA teams, and the bottom level teams are much better than the past bottom level teams of the past. We could get a 13 seed if the season were to end today.

But this is nothing like the GMU, VCU, ODU good years.

(12-26-2015 11:38 AM)Dukester Wrote:  CAA is def better this year than recent years, but even if the season were to end today under any measure we'd be a one team conference no matter who won the tournament. Sags have one top 100 team.

CofC RPI 48 or W&M 52 would not get an at-large. This is only a part of the equation - everything else is less favorable. The top teams are a better then recent top CAA teams, and the bottom level teams are much better than the past bottom level teams of the past. We could get a 13 seed if the season were to end today.

But this is nothing like the GMU, VCU, ODU good years.

Though the chances are very slim, should we continue our winning ways and make noise in the CAA Tourney, I say the committee would find it difficult to leave us out. This statement in no way reflects that I think we'll stay on this run. I simply believe the NCAA respects JMU enough that 25 wins takes us dancing.

(12-26-2015 11:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 11:38 AM)Dukester Wrote:  CAA is def better this year than recent years, but even if the season were to end today under any measure we'd be a one team conference no matter who won the tournament. Sags have one top 100 team.

CofC RPI 48 or W&M 52 would not get an at-large. This is only a part of the equation - everything else is less favorable. The top teams are a better then recent top CAA teams, and the bottom level teams are much better than the past bottom level teams of the past. We could get a 13 seed if the season were to end today.

But this is nothing like the GMU, VCU, ODU good years.

Though the chances are very slim, should we continue our winning ways and make noise in the CAA Tourney, I say the committee would find it difficult to leave us out. This statement in no way reflects that I think we'll stay on this run. I simply believe the NCAA respects JMU enough that 25 wins takes us dancing.

The NCAA respects JMU basketball? We have averaged making the tourney once a decade over 30 years playing in a a one bid league a large majority of those years. We have fired our last three basketball coaches.

The last NIT invitation was 22 years ago...

For those that drink purple Kool-Aid, I salute you.

I can't speak for other folks but I'm not suggesting that JMU has a chance at an at large bid. All we know is that the conference was very respectable in the OOC this year. If the right teams keep winning and only lose among each other you can see a path where the CAA could be in at least the at large discussion.

Based on the OOC you would tend to think that other teams are better positioned for an at large than the Dukes would be if they finish at the top of the conference.

Either way a good RPI (whether it results in one bid or two) helps seeding and chances to win a game or two in the NCAA tourney.

Let's see how JMU plays in conference and if they keep the train moving. I tend to think that they will prove themselves to be among the class of a what is a strong mid major conference this year. If their record is 14-4 or 15-3 I'd be curious what their RPI would be going into the conference Tournament.

(12-26-2015 03:22 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  If their record is 14-4 or 15-3 I'd be curious what their RPI would be going into the conference Tournament.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/James%20Madison.html

This site has their RPI at 39 and 48 for each of those scenarios.

JMU's chances of an at large bid with a strong conference record would all be dependent on what other schools are vying for the at large spots. The committee has shown in the past that they are fine putting a team that finished in 5th to 8th place in a power 5 conference in over a strong mid major team. With JMU having a weak basketball program for over 20 years, I don't see them giving us the benefit of the doubt.

(12-26-2015 05:10 PM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  JMU's chances of an at large bid with a strong conference record would all be dependent on what other schools are vying for the at large spots. The committee has shown in the past that they are fine putting a team that finished in 5th to 8th place in a power 5 conference in over a strong mid major team. With JMU having a weak basketball program for over 20 years, I don't see them giving us the benefit of the doubt.

This. Also, MB flat out said that there's no way our conference gets a second bid.

If Northeastern goes 16-2 in the CAA with a win at Miami they will get in if Miami remains in the top 15. There are a few scenarios in the CAA where a 16-2 record could gain an at large. With the balance in the league this year though, a 14-4 is the best I see. The CAA is a good basketball league this year, the results and numbers prove it. I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out. I have watched us play Richmond and ECU and enjoyed both. The Charleston game will be a tough game. A 1 o'clock tip is perfect for New Years Eve. Go Dukes.

(12-26-2015 03:48 PM)penninajx Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 03:22 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  If their record is 14-4 or 15-3 I'd be curious what their RPI would be going into the conference Tournament.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/James%20Madison.html

This site has their RPI at 39 and 48 for each of those scenarios.

That RPI forecast site does not count the D-3 win (so team is 9-3). Go 16-2 and RPI is 32; 15-3 it's 40 (showing for 25-5 and 24-6, respectively). If your RPI is 32, you're in the mix for an at-large; 40 not so much in the CAA (although you're in the conversation). Hofstra was 33 or so one year with impressive wins and didn't get selected.

(12-26-2015 11:38 AM)Dukester Wrote:  CAA is def better this year than recent years, but even if the season were to end today under any measure we'd be a one team conference no matter who won the tournament. Sags have one top 100 team.

CofC RPI 48 or W&M 52 would not get an at-large. This is only a part of the equation - everything else is less favorable. The top teams are a better then recent top CAA teams, and the bottom level teams are much better than the past bottom level teams of the past. We could get a 13 seed if the season were to end today.

But this is nothing like the GMU, VCU, ODU good years.

CAA is currently no. 8 conference...don't recall it being that high even in year with 3 NCAA bids. It certainly wasn't better than that in rating total conference RPI. After last year's showing that's real progress, tremendous in fact.