Mario Cristobal

Joe Philbin. Then he won't have to sell his $2.5M home in Miami.

(10-25-2015 08:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 07:21 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 06:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 06:12 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 05:50 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Miami needs a high intensity coach who can sell the place and get everyone fired up. The guy they should hire (but won't) is Ed Orgeron.

Ed had a crack at the big job and failed miserably.

I'd be shocked if he was on a list, long or short.

That's exactly what you would have said about Pete Carroll before USC hired him.

Pete ran a major college football program into the ground as HC before taking over USC?

Carroll was fired from two NFL head coaching jobs before being hired at USC.

So that isn't the same thing...

(10-25-2015 08:41 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:36 PM)stever20 Wrote:  wow just saw this:
Adam Rittenberg
ESPN Staff Writer
The Miami job elicits more polarizing views than almost any in Power 5. Coaches from Power 5 programs I talked with are split: some say it's still a great job, others have concerns about admin support and infrastructure. Two agents told me tonight that all things considered, UCF might be a better job than Miami.

Yes that's a wow and true

Maybe Miami and UCF can work out a swap. Recently resigned O'Leary for recently relieved Golden?

(10-25-2015 09:10 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Mario Cristobal

+1

That would be a fantastic hire.

I hope Miami football forever falls into the sea. They should hire the plethora of delusional ex-players who obviously know better. Their lack of appreciation was telling. Golden saved the program from dark depths after the investigation aftermath.

I would not touch that job.....done

(10-25-2015 05:39 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Good by Miami. Now go out and hire a stud that can lock down that south Floridan talent and bring back Miami to the glory it belongs at.

This would be a great chance for Tom Herman.

UM will never be what the were.

(10-25-2015 10:10 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I hope Miami football forever falls into the sea. They should hire the plethora of delusional ex-players who obviously know better. Their lack of appreciation was telling. Golden saved the program from dark depths after the investigation aftermath.

Golden hit his ceiling. If you were a Miami supporter, you wouldn't be satisfied with 6-6/7-5 and being curbstomped by Clemson.

(10-25-2015 05:39 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Good by Miami. Now go out and hire a stud that can lock down that south Floridan talent and bring back Miami to the glory it belongs at.

This would be a great chance for Tom Herman.

A guy with TX roots as a coach can magically walk into SoFlo and work his magic? What's his incentive for such a poorly supported gig? Career suicide?

(10-25-2015 05:50 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Schiano?

Schiano did really mine the hell out of SoFlo as Rutgers coach. Why couldn't he keep some at home?

(10-25-2015 08:41 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:36 PM)stever20 Wrote:  wow just saw this:
Adam Rittenberg
ESPN Staff Writer
The Miami job elicits more polarizing views than almost any in Power 5. Coaches from Power 5 programs I talked with are split: some say it's still a great job, others have concerns about admin support and infrastructure. Two agents told me tonight that all things considered, UCF might be a better job than Miami.

Yes that's a wow and true

Word. Someone on the CBS board had this fantasy about Herman going to Tha U and bringing them back to prominence. I guess...if not for the fact that this isn't an NCAA '14 dynasty and he might be out of a job if the school admin's indifference lurks.

(10-25-2015 11:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 10:10 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I hope Miami football forever falls into the sea. They should hire the plethora of delusional ex-players who obviously know better. Their lack of appreciation was telling. Golden saved the program from dark depths after the investigation aftermath.

Golden hit his ceiling. If you were a Miami supporter, you wouldn't be satisfied with 6-6/7-5 and being curbstomped by Clemson.

That may be the case with Golden, but Canesfan has to deal with the shitt sammich being dealt when they are losing the facilities arms race and get with present day reality.

(10-25-2015 08:46 PM)bluesox Wrote:  Mike Leach

His bunch gave Portland State a great game. The Pirate Coach and his brigade have set sail!

The Rock Dwayne Johnson, he'll layith the smack down with the people's elbow if you smell what the Rock is cookin.

It may not be a bad idea to have him on the promotional staff. Something to draw recruits in though on the other hand, getting high level recruits isn't the issue.

Miami days have come and gone. When Miami was dominate they were the only Div 1-A school in South Florida and only had to compete with Florida and Florida State who were hundreds of miles to the north. Now the have UCF, South Florida, FIU, and Florida Atlantic to take up recruits and water down the recruits Miami can take. Miami also use to play close to campus now they play really far away. Miami is also a small private school with no true alumni support or student body to get them through the tough times just a bunch of bandwagon fans that show up for Florida or FSU or when Miami is a national contender. They started winning by cheating and will probably never be able to do what they did in past ever again they should just be happy to be in the ACC to at least stay some what relevant. No coaches wants to go somewhere you are expected to win the national championship every year with no stadium, alumni, and no fans it's kind of laughable.

(10-25-2015 05:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Lets take Cincinnati, Memphis and Houston coaches off the market. If the Big 12 expands with those schools? Those coaches would get a pay raise.

Don't think the Big 12 is expanding, but top programs get coaches from other teams in power 5 conferences. Miami and USC definitely could pull some of those coaches (although I think Tuberville's plan is for his last job to be UC).

P5 vs. G5 is only a general easy marker of program strength. We actually have far more a continuum than any straight line though.

Edit 2: All that said about Miami, adminstation support is a big deal and if Miami's coach doesnt have it, that hurts a lot

Edit: As for Miami, they will very unlikely ever be close to what they were in the past, but they should be far more than they are. They still have natural advantages over every single team in their division and they have never played in the ACCCG and only would have made it once if not for a bowl ban.

(10-25-2015 05:56 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 05:50 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Miami needs a high intensity coach who can sell the place and get everyone fired up. The guy they should hire (but won't) is Ed Orgeron.

Miami has never had a long term coach there and as a matter of fact their major run in the 80's-00's was a patchwork of different coaches.

They need one guy, presumably someone with lots of connections to South Florida, that can carry the way for decades. But there's also the reality to to face that the secret is out about Florida talent and that there are more teams out there than their was for most of their historic run. They just are what they are.

Wasn't Randy Shannon supposed to be that guy. I think the issue that no one, especially the NFL alumni want to face is that 'Da U' football have served its purpose. The program helped to get the University into the ACC. The things that were immaterial during the Hurricane's championship run, now are liabilities to the image the admin is trying to create. The admin is tightening up academic standards and actively trying to shed that earlier identity. Those aren't moves indicative of a potential return to greatness.

Miami has recruiting advantages over the ACC but that's just about where it ends.

(10-25-2015 11:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 10:10 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I hope Miami football forever falls into the sea. They should hire the plethora of delusional ex-players who obviously know better. Their lack of appreciation was telling. Golden saved the program from dark depths after the investigation aftermath.

Golden hit his ceiling. If you were a Miami supporter, you wouldn't be satisfied with 6-6/7-5 and being curbstomped by Clemson.

I know that. It is the barking of clueless ex-players that celebrated his firing like the death of King Louis XVI that has annoyed me. Golden propped up the program and stayed despite knowing the coming storm. Sapp and his ilk need to remove themselves from their daydreams and realize the state of their precious "U."

(10-26-2015 08:34 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Wasn't Randy Shannon supposed to be that guy. I think the issue that no one, especially the NFL alumni want to face is that 'Da U' football have served its purpose. The program helped to get the University into the ACC. The things that were immaterial during the Hurricane's championship run, now are liabilities to the image the admin is trying to create. The admin is tightening up academic standards and actively trying to shed that earlier identity. Those aren't moves indicative of a potential return to greatness.

And with the way the realignment carousel goes around, Miami could find themselves on the wrong side of the ViP rope if the ACC does a WAC-16 and they happen to be down. What if the charter members of the ACC (plus Georgia Tech, minus South Carolina and Maryland) kicked everyone else out, kept a couple and created a MWC-esque conference?

Duke-Clemson-GT-NC State-UNC-UVa-VT-Wake (FSU?)

(10-26-2015 07:55 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Miami days have come and gone. When Miami was dominate they were the only Div 1-A school in South Florida and only had to compete with Florida and Florida State who were hundreds of miles to the north. Now the have UCF, South Florida, FIU, and Florida Atlantic to take up recruits and water down the recruits Miami can take. Miami also use to play close to campus now they play really far away. Miami is also a small private school with no true alumni support or student body to get them through the tough times just a bunch of bandwagon fans that show up for Florida or FSU or when Miami is a national contender. They started winning by cheating and will probably never be able to do what they did in past ever again they should just be happy to be in the ACC to at least stay some what relevant. No coaches wants to go somewhere you are expected to win the national championship every year with no stadium, alumni, and no fans it's kind of laughable.

Miami has natural built in advantages that UCF,USF & their south Florida twins don't have & that's power conference affiliation along with the perks that come along with it. The U has recruited top 25 classes the last 3-4 years, so either every recruiting service is wrong or coaching is the problem. Miami's selling point has always been it's ability to produce high caliber NFL players & they will be relevent as long as that is the case