SUN BELT:

Georgia Southern
Louisiana
Arkansas State
Appalachian State

(07-12-2015 01:22 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 01:14 PM)SApuro Wrote:  CUSA

Rice (academics)
USM (heritage)
UTEP (basketball)
UTSA (homer/highest ceiling)

LOL! Are you on crack?

Haha maybe.

C-USA

FB:
Marshall
Rice
USM
LA Tech

BB:
ODU
UAB
UTEP
Western Kentucky

The ACC

North Carolina
Dook
UVa
FSU

(07-12-2015 01:58 PM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I would have to say that historically the 4 top brands of the BIG are as follows:

tOSU
Penn State
Michigan
Nebraska

I think Michigan State and Wisconsin are top 6 and may intermingle with the top 4 during current times.

No question Wisc and MSU have been rising while 3 of the traditional Big 4 have been struggling. Wisc with 3 straight Rose Bowls and a bastketball team in national championship game. MSU with 2 straight BCS level bowl wins and Basketball also keeps doing great under Izzo.

Neb, PSU and Mich better get their act together or else they are about to lose their Big 4 status. It would be especially interesting if MSU takes over Mich's spot in the Big 4.

(07-12-2015 02:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Big 12
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St.

SEC
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia

PAC
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Washington

I'm sorry, but you can't be serious. At least try and pretend you aren't being a huge homer. No one outside of Lubbock thinks this.

(07-12-2015 08:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 02:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Big 12
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St.

I'm sorry, but you can't be serious. At least try and pretend you aren't being a huge homer. No one outside of Lubbock thinks this.

While I personally wouldn't put them in the top four, of the 10 current Big 12 teams, these are the four that were not staring down homelessness. It may have been for reasons other than their inherent true value, but it's enough to make the answer understandable. Besides if Tech isn't fourth, what are they? Fifth? Is one spot so far off.

(07-12-2015 09:51 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 02:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Big 12
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St.

I'm sorry, but you can't be serious. At least try and pretend you aren't being a huge homer. No one outside of Lubbock thinks this.

While I personally wouldn't put them in the top four, of the 10 current Big 12 teams, these are the four that were not staring down homelessness. It may have been for reasons other than their inherent true value, but it's enough to make the answer understandable. Besides if Tech isn't fourth, what are they? Fifth? Is one spot so far off.

Are they though? Look at it like you are an executive in charge of a network and look at tech completely independently. No politics, no neighbours. I see them as sixth at best and certainly up for debate amongst the others. Tech will always be valuable as part of a package but less so themselves.

No other conference is lining up to shake up the big 12 in order to get tech.

If we assume Kansas is the one in their place, who is head and shoulders above them, value wise, as next in line? I can;t think of anyone. You can make a case for West Virginia, but that's about it. Baylor is too "new money" to be there, and I don't think TCU is above them if only because they are new to the power conference game, since the SWC. That's all I meant, was that it's not crazy talk.

(07-12-2015 10:35 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 09:51 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 02:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Big 12
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St.

I'm sorry, but you can't be serious. At least try and pretend you aren't being a huge homer. No one outside of Lubbock thinks this.

While I personally wouldn't put them in the top four, of the 10 current Big 12 teams, these are the four that were not staring down homelessness. It may have been for reasons other than their inherent true value, but it's enough to make the answer understandable. Besides if Tech isn't fourth, what are they? Fifth? Is one spot so far off.

Are they though? Look at it like you are an executive in charge of a network and look at tech completely independently. No politics, no neighbours. I see them as sixth at best and certainly up for debate amongst the others. Tech will always be valuable as part of a package but less so themselves.

No other conference is lining up to shake up the big 12 in order to get tech.

Why would a UC fan care? I hear Tommy is still wearing Tech Polo's as the HC of UC and I hope it was fake.

Texas Tech is the 3rd largest University in Texas and we have options.

TV loves Texas Tech

ACC

FSU
NC
Virginia
Louisville

(07-12-2015 11:21 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Why would a UC fan care? I hear Tommy is still wearing Tech Polo's as the HC of UC and I hope it was fake.

Finally, something we can agree on.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-your-c...1421081367
1 Ohio St. $93,036,878 $1,127,580,000
2 Michigan $112,291,813 $999,130,000
3 Texas $128,729,268 $972,110,000
4 Notre Dame $102,494,243 $936,380,000
5 Florida $99,454,773 $815,420,000
6 Oklahoma $103,038,214 $776,540,000
7 Alabama $120,142,639 $760,550,000
8 Georgia $85,937,753 $710,900,000
9 LSU $109,173,162 $659,180,000
10 Nebraska $74,862,938 $536,000,000
11 Penn St. $83,288,926 $520,680,000
12 Iowa $82,757,412 $491,310,000
13 Tennessee $72,562,247 $437,120,000
14 S. Carolina $78,397,150 $421,980,000
15 Washington $79,164,236 $418,560,000
16 Wisconsin $73,741,391 $415,910,000
17 Texas A&M $67,787,674 $382,140,000
18 Oregon $66,135,372 $358,700,000
19 Auburn $81,073,053 $340,350,000
20 Arkansas $70,990,766 $327,750,000
21 Florida St. $68,140,713 $325,740,000
22 Oklahoma St. $69,506,204 $319,530,000
23 Virginia Tech $52,645,611 $308,510,000
24 S. California $64,695,909 $303,570,000
25 Texas Tech $52,932,440 $289,840,000
26 Kansas St. $56,023,039 $286,090,000
27 Arizona St. $58,666,602 $277,360,000
28 Michigan St. $57,905,137 $260,790,000
29 Clemson $54,435,929 $255,050,000
30 California Berkeley $55,574,271 $252,140,000
31 Stanford $59,798,385 $232,450,000
32 Mississippi $54,381,922 $226,860,000
33 UCLA $51,032,078 $225,570,000
34 Oregon St. $50,723,390 $220,270,000
35 Kentucky $52,725,047 $217,450,000
36 Colorado $51,464,641 $208,310,000
37 Miami (Florida) $48,781,279 $204,080,000
38 Minnesota $58,266,807 $202,370,000
39 Utah $48,228,450 $198,940,000
40 North Carolina St. $44,208,653 $182,580,000
41 Iowa St. $48,627,966 $182,300,000
42 Georgia Tech $44,299,485 $180,520,000
43 Arizona $45,734,290 $163,650,000
44 Virginia $43,483,651 $159,340,000
45 Northwestern $45,925,707 $156,490,000
46 Indiana $43,922,378 $149,400,000
47 Purdue $40,277,844 $140,080,000
48 Syracuse $39,447,454 $137,570,000
49 Washington St. $41,657,755 $135,300,000
50 North Carolina $41,071,964 $133,980,000
51 Missouri $40,587,884 $115,110,000
52 BYU $30,528,434 $113,160,000
53 TCU $44,706,086 $111,110,000
54 Mississippi St. $33,645,812 $108,640,000
55 Illinois $34,492,754 $105,130,000
56 Maryland $35,562,964 $105,110,000
57 Kansas $32,846,803 $103,890,000
58 S. Florida $32,106,967 $100,210,000
59 Central Florida $35,002,794 $99,570,000
60 Connecticut $32,120,641 $94,990,000
61 Baylor $40,400,043 $94,060,000
62 Boston College $32,597,163 $90,920,000
63 West Virginia $33,528,297 $87,020,000
64 Pittsburgh $33,284,256 $86,860,000
65 Louisville $34,246,959 $84,230,000
66 Boise St. $25,604,718 $77,990,000
67 Rutgers $32,367,001 $62,720,000
68 Vanderbilt $29,968,979 $59,060,000
69 San Jose St. $19,116,252 $58,040,000
70 Central Michigan $31,173,086 $57,220,000
71 Duke $26,271,327 $47,210,000
72 Wake Forest $26,155,513 $46,920,000
73 Wyoming $17,432,835 $43,490,000
74 Army $15,849,969 $43,250,000
75 Cincinnati $20,491,314 $36,280,000
76 Colorado St. $17,404,608 $33,160,000
77 Fresno St. $16,098,899 $31,990,000
78 Temple $17,070,944 $29,340,000
79 Houston $17,024,009 $29,050,000
80 Southern Methodist $16,974,374 $28,740,000

Of the conferences I follow, I'd say...

A10
VCU
Dayton
UMass
St. Joes

Big East
Georgetown
Villanova
Xavier
SJU/Marquette (one coming back up, one dropping)

MVC
WSU
SIU
MoSU
UNI

MWC
Air Force
Boise State
SDSU
CSU/UNLV/UNM

MAC
NIU
Toledo
Ohio
UMOH

AAC
UConn
Cincy
Memphis
ECU

B1G
OSU
Meesh
PSU
UNL

PAC
USC
Oregon
UCLA
UW

ACC
UNC
Duke
FSU
UVA

(07-12-2015 11:21 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 10:35 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 09:51 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 08:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 02:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Big 12
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St.

I'm sorry, but you can't be serious. At least try and pretend you aren't being a huge homer. No one outside of Lubbock thinks this.

While I personally wouldn't put them in the top four, of the 10 current Big 12 teams, these are the four that were not staring down homelessness. It may have been for reasons other than their inherent true value, but it's enough to make the answer understandable. Besides if Tech isn't fourth, what are they? Fifth? Is one spot so far off.

Are they though? Look at it like you are an executive in charge of a network and look at tech completely independently. No politics, no neighbours. I see them as sixth at best and certainly up for debate amongst the others. Tech will always be valuable as part of a package but less so themselves.

No other conference is lining up to shake up the big 12 in order to get tech.

Why would a UC fan care? I hear Tommy is still wearing Tech Polo's as the HC of UC and I hope it was fake.

Texas Tech is the 3rd largest University in Texas and we have options.

TV loves Texas Tech

What school I am a fan of will never be relevant to the points I make. I wouldn't be making that point anyway considering your clear obsession with your former coach, JML.

I was expressing an opinion. I do believe that's what this message board is about.

For the Pac-12

California
Stanford
UCLA
USC

CUSA

Rice
Southern Miss
UTEP
Marshall

(07-13-2015 08:53 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  ACC

FSU
NC
Virginia
Louisville

I love UofL, but no way a team last in, and only added due to a defection (as opposed to a targeted addition) can really be in the top four in terms of value to the conference. Yes number 1 or 2 in revenue, but that is not really shared value so to speak.

(07-13-2015 09:40 AM)Okielite Wrote:  http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-your-c...1421081367
1 Ohio St. $93,036,878 $1,127,580,000
2 Michigan $112,291,813 $999,130,000
3 Texas $128,729,268 $972,110,000
4 Notre Dame $102,494,243 $936,380,000
5 Florida $99,454,773 $815,420,000
6 Oklahoma $103,038,214 $776,540,000
7 Alabama $120,142,639 $760,550,000
8 Georgia $85,937,753 $710,900,000
9 LSU $109,173,162 $659,180,000
10 Nebraska $74,862,938 $536,000,000
11 Penn St. $83,288,926 $520,680,000
12 Iowa $82,757,412 $491,310,000
13 Tennessee $72,562,247 $437,120,000
14 S. Carolina $78,397,150 $421,980,000
15 Washington $79,164,236 $418,560,000
16 Wisconsin $73,741,391 $415,910,000
17 Texas A&M $67,787,674 $382,140,000
18 Oregon $66,135,372 $358,700,000
19 Auburn $81,073,053 $340,350,000
20 Arkansas $70,990,766 $327,750,000
21 Florida St. $68,140,713 $325,740,000
22 Oklahoma St. $69,506,204 $319,530,000
23 Virginia Tech $52,645,611 $308,510,000
24 S. California $64,695,909 $303,570,000
25 Texas Tech $52,932,440 $289,840,000
26 Kansas St. $56,023,039 $286,090,000
27 Arizona St. $58,666,602 $277,360,000
28 Michigan St. $57,905,137 $260,790,000
29 Clemson $54,435,929 $255,050,000
30 California Berkeley $55,574,271 $252,140,000
31 Stanford $59,798,385 $232,450,000
32 Mississippi $54,381,922 $226,860,000
33 UCLA $51,032,078 $225,570,000
34 Oregon St. $50,723,390 $220,270,000
35 Kentucky $52,725,047 $217,450,000
36 Colorado $51,464,641 $208,310,000
37 Miami (Florida) $48,781,279 $204,080,000
38 Minnesota $58,266,807 $202,370,000
39 Utah $48,228,450 $198,940,000
40 North Carolina St. $44,208,653 $182,580,000
41 Iowa St. $48,627,966 $182,300,000
42 Georgia Tech $44,299,485 $180,520,000
43 Arizona $45,734,290 $163,650,000
44 Virginia $43,483,651 $159,340,000
45 Northwestern $45,925,707 $156,490,000
46 Indiana $43,922,378 $149,400,000
47 Purdue $40,277,844 $140,080,000
48 Syracuse $39,447,454 $137,570,000
49 Washington St. $41,657,755 $135,300,000
50 North Carolina $41,071,964 $133,980,000
51 Missouri $40,587,884 $115,110,000
52 BYU $30,528,434 $113,160,000
53 TCU $44,706,086 $111,110,000
54 Mississippi St. $33,645,812 $108,640,000
55 Illinois $34,492,754 $105,130,000
56 Maryland $35,562,964 $105,110,000
57 Kansas $32,846,803 $103,890,000
58 S. Florida $32,106,967 $100,210,000
59 Central Florida $35,002,794 $99,570,000
60 Connecticut $32,120,641 $94,990,000
61 Baylor $40,400,043 $94,060,000
62 Boston College $32,597,163 $90,920,000
63 West Virginia $33,528,297 $87,020,000
64 Pittsburgh $33,284,256 $86,860,000
65 Louisville $34,246,959 $84,230,000
66 Boise St. $25,604,718 $77,990,000
67 Rutgers $32,367,001 $62,720,000
68 Vanderbilt $29,968,979 $59,060,000
69 San Jose St. $19,116,252 $58,040,000
70 Central Michigan $31,173,086 $57,220,000
71 Duke $26,271,327 $47,210,000
72 Wake Forest $26,155,513 $46,920,000
73 Wyoming $17,432,835 $43,490,000
74 Army $15,849,969 $43,250,000
75 Cincinnati $20,491,314 $36,280,000
76 Colorado St. $17,404,608 $33,160,000
77 Fresno St. $16,098,899 $31,990,000
78 Temple $17,070,944 $29,340,000
79 Houston $17,024,009 $29,050,000
80 Southern Methodist $16,974,374 $28,740,000

Killjoy!

Folks were pissing for distance!

(07-13-2015 11:04 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 09:40 AM)Okielite Wrote:  http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-your-c...1421081367

Killjoy!

Folks were pissing for distance!

I have a hard time taking at face value a list that ranks NC State, Kansas St, and Virginia Tech as the most valuable in their states over the main school (Tech I could almost see, but UVA just has so much money and is so sought after), or Washington as the most valuable team in the PAC 12, or Central Michigan as the most valuable team in the MAC, or USF as the most valuable team in the American. But using this, the ranks would be in order from most valuable (conferences in alphabetical order)...

ACC
Florida St, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Miami.

American
S. Florida, C. Florida, UConn, Cincinnati

Big 10
Ohio St, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn St

Big 12
Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and Texas Tech

Independents
Notre Dame, BYU, Navy

MAC
Central Michigan.

Mountain West
Boise St, San Jose St, Wyoming, Colorado St

Pac 12
Washington, Oregon, USC, Arizona St

SEC
Florida, Alabama, Georgia, LSU


Some of these results, I think most would agree, more or less invalidate the poll.