Since I am not educated on this topic, can someone/Paul inform me of the difference. Thanks.

Huh? What are you even talking about?

(07-11-2015 03:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Huh? What are you even talking about?

In the sodomite thread Paul brought up "fake Christians". Based on that I would like to know what the difference between "fake" and "real" Christians is.

(07-11-2015 03:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Huh? What are you even talking about?

In the sodomite thread Paul brought up "fake Christians". Based on that I would like to know what the difference between "fake" and "real" Christians is.

I'd think the answer would be rather obvious.

A "fake" is something that claims to be something it is not.

There are plenty of people who go to church on Sundays but don't live or act like a christian at ALL the other 6 days of the week.

In the context you mentioned that Paul brought it up I would imagine this is what he was talking about.

http://biblia.com/bible/esv/1%20Cor%206.9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9–11

Quote: Or do you not know that the unrighteous2 will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: xneither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,3 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And ysuch were some of you. But zyou were washed, ayou were sanctified, byou were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

(07-11-2015 03:23 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Huh? What are you even talking about?

In the sodomite thread Paul brought up "fake Christians". Based on that I would like to know what the difference between "fake" and "real" Christians is.

I'd think the answer would be rather obvious.

A "fake" is something that claims to be something it is not.

There are plenty of people who go to church on Sundays but don't live or act like a christian at ALL the other 6 days of the week.

Someone once said, "I met a man who said he's a Christian because he's in church every Sunday. Well ... I could stand in a garage all day; that doesn't make me a car".

He's probably referring to those Christians who say the Bible, particularly Jesus, doesn't condemn homosexuality.

I'd also add those who only believe in the prosperity doctrine as well.

Roman Catholics are fake Christians.

Proof

You know those fake Christians that you see at church all the time.

(07-11-2015 07:58 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You know those fake Christians that you see at church all the time.

What I think is interesting is a lot of those "real" Christians in this country couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.

(07-11-2015 07:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  What I think is interesting is a lot of those "real" Christians in this country couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.

True Christians are the only people on earth this who truly love everyone, even those who hate them and belittle them at every turn. Even those who would kill them and their families simply for loving Christ.

As Jesus said on the cross, "Forgive them Lord, the know not what they do". As Stephen was stoned to death for preaching the Truth, he said, Lord forgive them, "do not charge them with this sin".

THAT is a love those living without Christ can never really understand. The ability to love someone as they brutally murder you. The whole world saw this love on display recently in SC when the families of those slain one after anther stepped forward and told the shooter they they forgive him, without hesitation.

Only one who truly loves Christ our Savior can understand that, and those who do not never will without Him.

True Christians have nothing but love for you, Rob. And Christ loves you more than you will ever know. All you have to do is accept his free gift of grace and love Him back.

I have nothing but love for you Rob, and I pray they you will one day seek our Lord and ask Him for forgiveness. He can take away all your sin, all your anger, bitterness and hate... all those things we all hold inside. He can wash it all away and fill your heart with more love than you could ever imagine.

(07-11-2015 07:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 07:58 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  You know those fake Christians that you see at church all the time.

What I think is interesting is a lot of those "real" Christians in this country couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.

Guess that explains all the charitable works they do.

Also the picketing.

They do a lot of that?

A lot of christians do, yes. Not sure if they're real christians or not, but that entire argument is pretty much a perfect example of the no-true scotsman fallacy.

Legitimate question. I'd say a "fake" is one who picks and chooses what he/she personally believes to be true and valid. Similar to a "fake" atheist, who denies the existence of God but believes in, say, Angels or some subset component or group of components custom-chosen individually by the person. It is inherently inconsistent and contradictory, but many choose to overlook this.

While they may overlap, they are certainly not what I take it you are attempting to distinguish as "real" Christians. A real Christian would be someone that believes and accepts as true all the doctrines of Christ's Church started on earth.

Which of course begs the question of which of the thousands of Christian Churches did Jesus Christ start? The answer is only one.

While there is certainly some good in some of what has been done by members who protest Christ's Church, and there has certainly been bad behaviour by some human leaders from Christ's Church from time to time, as in every large organization, especially one that has existed over two thousand consecutive years and counting, and most egregiously in every man-made form of government.

Someone who protests that they agree with most but not all is by definition not anything but less than the whole. While less is certainly not nothing, it is less.

For your consideration:

http://www.catholicscomehome.org/who-sta...ur-church/
contains a PDF graphic chart that is more descriptive of men who thought they could do better than Jesus Christ did.



Interesting aside, in past research, I discovered that Methodists apparently no longer officially follow or use the original method that they were named after and founded upon to distinguish them from the Catholic Church. It appears to be more of a "club" approach. Church of England was founded upon the divorce of the English King Henry VIII; Anglicans and Episcopals are derivatives of these protesters. Etc...

(07-11-2015 07:40 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Roman Catholics are fake Christians.

Proof

I used to be a catholic and believe me I don't feel that I was a Christian until "I" read and studied the Bible. I could make you a list of catholic dogma and how it deviates from the Bible.

A friend at work once told me, "I love being a catholic, I go and confess on Sunday and take communion and I'm free to do what I want the next 6 days". Most catholics think that way.

I was asking my niece why catholics pray to Mary when there's no mention of Mary as a deity in the Bible. She told me that they don't but when her daughter got married they were required to take a bouquet of flowers to a statue of Mary and pray at its altar. Tell me that they don't pray to Mary. Right away you see two sins there, praying to statues and praying to someone other than God.

I really can't understand it. If they say that they know the Bible why do they keep insisting on heresy.

Left out L Ron Hubbard.

(07-11-2015 06:17 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:23 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 03:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Huh? What are you even talking about?

In the sodomite thread Paul brought up "fake Christians". Based on that I would like to know what the difference between "fake" and "real" Christians is.

I'd think the answer would be rather obvious.

A "fake" is something that claims to be something it is not.

There are plenty of people who go to church on Sundays but don't live or act like a christian at ALL the other 6 days of the week.

Someone once said, "I met a man who said he's a Christian because he's in church every Sunday. Well ... I could stand in a garage all day; that doesn't make me a car".

spoken like a true 'displaced yankee'....

Why would he want to stand in a garage all day? Unless he's a mechanic. That would make him a car…mechanic.