That is a very good read on what happened especially the quotes from witnesses.
Things are not always as the media would portray them.
Everyone knows the saying "if it bleeds, it leads."
Also know that "if it's about race, it gets top place."
Blood, sex and race stories sell.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2015 09:26 AM by mptnstr@44.)
(06-08-2015 08:22 AM)BobL Wrote: regardless of why the cops were called....that one cop was an a-hole and had no reason what so ever to throw that young girl around as he did. I dont care what race anyone is or what she said, that was over the top, as was pulling his gun on the two guys that appeared to be trying to talk to and get him off the girl.
You charge an Officer while he is clearly preoccupied restraining a Prisoner, expect him to defend himself.
yea the 200 pound cop was restraining a 100 pound 15 year old girl....he has one knee on the girls neck the other on her back..i would also walk up to that cop and tell him the settle down and get off her.
nope, not buying it, that was an a-hole cop that needs to lose his badge...if that was my kid, id make sure of it. There are lots of great cops out there, this guy is not one of them.
The cop was out of control. Did you see him do a rolling flip? Elbow his fellow officer? Grab some kids that were walking(not running) away from the chaos? After talking to all of the kids, grab the random black kid who was standing there next to the other kids explaining what happened?
I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.”
Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”
Thugs doing what Thugs do Best !
Link?
It's on the link he posted and quoted ("Oh, there's more to the story)."
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2015 09:44 AM by C2__.)
(06-08-2015 08:22 AM)BobL Wrote: regardless of why the cops were called....that one cop was an a-hole and had no reason what so ever to throw that young girl around as he did. I dont care what race anyone is or what she said, that was over the top, as was pulling his gun on the two guys that appeared to be trying to talk to and get him off the girl.
You charge an Officer while he is clearly preoccupied restraining a Prisoner, expect him to defend himself.
yea the 200 pound cop was restraining a 100 pound 15 year old girl....he has one knee on the girls neck the other on her back..i would also walk up to that cop and tell him the settle down and get off her.
nope, not buying it, that was an a-hole cop that needs to lose his badge...if that was my kid, id make sure of it. There are lots of great cops out there, this guy is not one of them.
The cop was out of control. Did you see him do a rolling flip? Elbow his fellow officer? Grab some kids that were walking(not running) away from the chaos? After talking to all of the kids, grab the random black kid who was standing there next to the other kids explaining what happened?
Oh please, it didn't happen like that at all. He may have been over the top a little but he was trying to calm the chaos. That's what happens when you deal with an unruly crowd unwilling to follow demands.
Stop trying to race bait this situation like at least half of blacks in this country.
I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.”
Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”
(06-08-2015 08:22 AM)BobL Wrote: regardless of why the cops were called....that one cop was an a-hole and had no reason what so ever to throw that young girl around as he did. I dont care what race anyone is or what she said, that was over the top, as was pulling his gun on the two guys that appeared to be trying to talk to and get him off the girl.
You charge an Officer while he is clearly preoccupied restraining a Prisoner, expect him to defend himself.
yea the 200 pound cop was restraining a 100 pound 15 year old girl....he has one knee on the girls neck the other on her back..i would also walk up to that cop and tell him the settle down and get off her.
nope, not buying it, that was an a-hole cop that needs to lose his badge...if that was my kid, id make sure of it. There are lots of great cops out there, this guy is not one of them.
The cop was out of control. Did you see him do a rolling flip? Elbow his fellow officer? Grab some kids that were walking(not running) away from the chaos? After talking to all of the kids, grab the random black kid who was standing there next to the other kids explaining what happened?
Agree He was in over His head with Excitement about being on Camera. A real don't do this at Home Star in the Making there .
when you have 2 cops and a crowd of 30 people and a few are being unruly, I'm pretty sure any of us would probably be on edge, and would also be taking things a little more seriously, especially with the raised tensions lately. In one part of the video, where the cop is trying to keep the girl on the ground, and 2 kids run over towards him, he was right to pull the gun IMO. How was he supposed to know if they weren't running in for a cheap shot. It would have taken all of about 3 seconds for 5 guys to rush that cop and beat him to death. And if the girl would have complied, and not try to fight the guy, he wouldn't have had to man handle her. Now I'm not taking all of the blame off of the cop, as he could have handled some things better, but when you are in the middle of 20 or 30 people who are all yelling at you, and a group runs up to you, anybody here would be pulling their gun too.... or wishing you had a gun to pull.
I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.”
Gestner wrapped up his post alleging that these same kids came back into the neighborhood Saturday night. They were “kicking in people’s front door, stole a truck and crashed it into many vehicles. They vandalized dozens of cars and were stealing things.”
Thugs doing what Thugs do Best !
Link?
It's in the Story lines below the Video !
That's what Breitbart reported Gestner as saying but there is no link or report from another source.
(06-08-2015 08:22 AM)BobL Wrote: regardless of why the cops were called....that one cop was an a-hole and had no reason what so ever to throw that young girl around as he did. I dont care what race anyone is or what she said, that was over the top, as was pulling his gun on the two guys that appeared to be trying to talk to and get him off the girl.
You charge an Officer while he is clearly preoccupied restraining a Prisoner, expect him to defend himself.
yea the 200 pound cop was restraining a 100 pound 15 year old girl....he has one knee on the girls neck the other on her back..i would also walk up to that cop and tell him the settle down and get off her.
nope, not buying it, that was an a-hole cop that needs to lose his badge...if that was my kid, id make sure of it. There are lots of great cops out there, this guy is not one of them.
The cop was out of control. Did you see him do a rolling flip? Elbow his fellow officer? Grab some kids that were walking(not running) away from the chaos? After talking to all of the kids, grab the random black kid who was standing there next to the other kids explaining what happened?
Oh please, it didn't happen like that at all. He may have been over the top a little but he was trying to calm the chaos. That's what happens when you deal with an unruly crowd unwilling to follow demands.
Stop trying to race bait this situation like at least half of blacks in this country.
That crowd of teens in swimsuits was unruly?
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2015 10:56 AM by firmbizzle.)
Not them. As long as you know your rights and the cop isn't overstepping his bounds, do what he/she asks and there won't be any problems, I don't see what's so hard about that. If something of a civil rights or other wrong action is taken by the cop, you can bring it to court later.
And in this case, there was a camera present, so if he did something wrong, he wouldn't have had much ground to stand on.
(06-08-2015 11:22 AM)_C2_ Wrote: Not them. As long as you know your rights and the cop isn't overstepping his bounds, do what he/she asks and there won't be any problems, I don't see what's so hard about that. If something of a civil rights or other wrong action is taken by the cop, you can bring it to court later.
And in this case, there was a camera present, so if he did something wrong, he wouldn't have had much ground to stand on.
why do that? it's much easier to just ignore the cops, run from them or towards them and fight them than just actually listen.
(06-08-2015 12:16 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If two cops are trying to corral 30 out of control teens and one of the cops asks you to lay down, why is it so hard to lay down?
(06-07-2015 05:47 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Fair enough. Still, it shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as they don't start trouble.
I pay my Homeowners Association Fees each month for Pool Maintenance & Operation, Life Guard etc.
Why should I pay for a non residents use? There is a City Pool 5 miles away. Go swim there. Or is this some BS claim of "White Privilege" ?
No, I lean toward your point of view and playing the race card is weak here. That said, as long as it doesn't become a habit (and maybe it had), then a non-resident occasionally coming shouldn't be too much of an issue, even if technically trespassing.
Tell any of that to the social media types exploding and ready to protest though.
What about liability? A non-resident trespasser slips and gets injured or drowns and who's liable?
Like someone else brought up this is private property. I feel sure that those of you who think it's no big deal would be pretty upset if people off the street just walked into your home to use the bathroom without invitation. Absolutely no difference here.
(06-08-2015 12:16 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote: If two cops are trying to corral 30 out of control teens and one of the cops asks you to lay down, why is it so hard to lay down?
You call that "out of control"?
The cops arrived with reports of out of control teens threatening the locals and starting fights. The cop just wanted everyone to calm down and explain what happened. Instead, all of his requests were ignored. It was like herding cats. Some people don't think they need to listen. They think it's their right to run around like a chicken with its head cut off whenever and wherever they please.
